The Balance of Air power in Sub-continent considering latest inductions of Platforms / capabilities by PAF

[CSAW]

Low by pass ratio engine for MMU TF-23 KAAN

"Concept of the new generation engine. They are engines with low bypass ratio, fuel efficiency and small diameter high thrust.


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Approx the engine diameter being the same; The F35's engine runs much hotter than the F22's engine and produces almost the same dry thrust.

The reason for this is related to the bypass ratio, there is also the metallurgy involved

Allows the dry thrust to be close to the thrust produced while the afterburner is active, paving the way for the supercruise ability. This allows the engine to perform at lower temperatures.

F110 has a very high bypass ratio, resulting in low engine dry thrust. With the afterburner, almost twice the thrust is obtained. For this reason, it is quite inadequate for supercruise.

Hence utill if MMU or KAAN uses F-110 engine it cannot super cruise and stay as 4.5 Generation.

F-135 engine runs at 1980 degrees, so a very high heat signature. The F35 has structural cooling to reduce this trace. However, with this cooling, we do not know if the heat signature goes down to the level of the F110.

Temel Kotil's statement, With the development & integration of national engine for KAAN , It will be able to fly at supersonic speed for hours. In other words, it is aimed at a similar level with the F22 engine.

Work has been continuing since 2018 under the partnership of TR Motor and TEI. Hundreds of engineers are developing the engine.The domestic engine will start flight tests on KAAN in 2028. Mass production deliveries in 2030 will be with domestic engines."

@dBSPL

TAI General Manager Prof. Dr. Basic Cotil: National Combat Aircraft #KAAN

"There are 3 Main components [Including Engine] for KAAN which we import from abroad.
We will localize them and deliver them 100% domestically in 2028. The Local engine will be delivered again in 2028 to be mounted on the aircraft. After the tests that will last for 2 years, as of 2030, the delivery of Block 20 type aircraft with domestic TF engines will be started."

The Turkish Government has just allocated $3.5 billion towards the development of the TF-38,000 turbofan engine to be used in KAAN. TUSAS Engine Industries Inc & TR Motor will be co-developing the engine. Further $3.5 billion will be allocated for production phase.

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TUSAS - TR MOTOR JV

"A team of 300 people is working on the KAAN engine, we have come a long way. Design process on its way."

Mahmut F. Aksit | TEI General Manager

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Havelsan to produce Turkish TFX Engine

A strategic cooperation agreement was signed Thursday between leading Turkish defense industry company Havelsan and TR Motor, a firm tasked with developing the turbofan jet fighter engine for Turkey's TF-X National Combat Aircraft (MMU). Havelsan, a prominent name in developing software-based...

www.globaldefensecorp.com

TUSAŞ VE TRMOTOR MMU’NUN GÜÇ ÜNİTELERİNİN GELİŞTİRİLMESİ İÇİN PROTOKOL İMZALADI | TR Motor Güç Sistemleri

www.trmotor.com.tr

 

[CSAW]

KAAN AS A POTENTIAL 'AIR SUPERIORITY 5.0TH GEN ASSET" FOR PAKISTAN AIRFORCE

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As a plus point - KAAN boasts all technologies and features found in fifth-generation warplanes. It will provide the Pakistan Airforce opportunity to strategically attack air-to-air and air-to-ground targets. With the help of TAI TUSAS, PAF can setup Assembly as well as other systems domestic infrastructure. The flexibility of integration and networking with other assets to secure data sharing and the use of smart munitions.

With its high-performance radar, electronic warfare, electro-optics, communication, navigation and identification capability, it will achieve increased combat power with precision and accurate firing from internal weapon slots at high/supersonic speed. It also has automatic target recognition and detection, multiple data fusion and artificial intelligence capabilities.

The ITAR Free engine development project with TR Motor for TAI is slated to be completed around 2028 - 2030.

The project helped Türkiye advance in technology areas such as low visibility, internal weapons slots, high maneuverability, increased situational awareness and sensor fusion, all features that are required for a new generation aircraft. So that may the route for Pakistan also.

Packed up with a potential Ozgur upgrade for PAF older Blocks of F-16s with capabilities such as AESA Radar , SEAD Missiles etc - The induction of KAAN acn only be bettered if PAF Opts for Chinese J-35 Land based induction which is a mature product at this stage and has a natural systems sharing with PAF Current Ace Pair of J-10CP & JF-17C Fighter jets"

 

[ThunderCat]

Pakistan should focus on selling of JF-17s rather than importing anything at this point.

 

[NG Missile Vessels]

THREAT TO PAKISTANI AIR DEFENCES & STRATEGIC ASSETS FROM STAND OFF RANGE
BrahMOS - NG or Mini BrahMos

Design Work has started on BrahMos - NG Mini Missile with stand off range. Design assessment in Moscow planned in end of 2023. Trials in 2024 2025.

Production near 2027-28 for integration with Su-30 MKI , MiG 29K Naval& Tejas MK1A / MK-2 fleet. The flight path would be Sea Skimming & its High super sonic but NOT Hypersonic.

The length will be reduced significantly & weight of BrahMos-NG weight being reduced to 1330 Kg from actual 1500 kg.

With a range of approx 280 - 300 Km at speed 4,320Km/hr Mach 3.5-3.6 & launchable from any aircraft.

It will have a indigenous AESA seeker.

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The digitized NG means it comes with a digital fuel injection system that will increase thrust, unlike the current versions that have a mechanical fuel injection system. It will be even faster, up to Mach 3.5. A big difference is that, on the Sukhoi, up to five BrahMos-NG missiles could be carried, with two missiles on each wing and one under the fuselage. The MiG-29 and the LCA would carry two

F-16s WILL HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY IN FUTURE AERIAL CONFLICTS BTW INDIA & PAKISTAN.

SWIFT RETORT REFRESHER

"Clarification on misunderstanding by the general public regarding the official DG ISPR statement that Pakistan did not use F-16s in Operation Swift Retort.

This is true, We need to understand the Operation.

As Op SR consisted of six airstrikes on Indian military targets inside Occupied Kashmir and that’s it. The two Indian jets shot down following that operation are purely defensive counter-air combat against uninvited and hostile foreign military aircraft attempting to enter sovereign airspace.

Now Both of these hostile Bogies were shot down by Pakistani F-16s, the MiG-21 Bison was hit and destroyed, it’s pilot and jet both landing in Pakistani territory, whereas the Su-30MKI faced a proximity hit due to explosion of warhead near the fuselage, causing major damage but not enough to finish its flight-worthiness and count as a shoot down. The Su-30MKI was able to fly further inland and later pull-off a lucky hard landing, and was retrieved.

The body of the AIM-120C-5 AMRAAM missile that damaged the Su-30MKI was also retrieved by the Indian military and shown on national television, as the other missile fired by Pakistan (on the MiG-21 Bison) hit the jet over Pakistani territory."

By STRATCOM BUREAU

Warhead detonation doesn't necessarily points to proximity fuse activation. You either don't know or deliberately refusing to acknowledge that AAM missiles self-detonates at R-max for safety purposes after it fails to hit its target.

The hype of AMRAAM's One Shot = One Kill

 

[NG Missile Vessels]

now have 3 parallel Hypersonic vehicle programs running
1. Brahmos Hypersonic ( based on Zircon )
2. DRDO HSTDV
3. Now by ISRO & IDS: Hypersonic Air-Breathing Vehicle wth Airframe integrated systems (HAVA)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1656171216674365442

@Skull and Bones @Cheepek @Raj-Hindustani @legacytiger18

 

[CSAW]

THE FUTURE AIR WARS WILL BE FOUGHT BY UNMANNED COMBAT JETS WITH AI & DIRECT ENERGY WEAPONS

"Currently, the Germans, British and French are trying to make 6th Generation aircraft. We will do it earlier."

Basic Kotil | TAI General Manager

 

[CSAW]

UAE DESERT VIPERS F-16 BLOCK -60s
PARKED WITH PAF BLOCK -52s
ANATOLIAN EAGLE 2023

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Block 60 aero-braking with a slightly higher AOA than normal, and the result:
The exhaust nozzle literally making contact with the runway. Fine margins indeed.

Delta Canard Powerful Qatari Euro Fighters -

The role of Aggressors suits them

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1655923315377340416

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PAF CREW AT AE 2023 KONYA

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Azerbaijan Su-25 armed with KGK Glide Bomb at AE Konya 2023

Su-25 carrying a pair of Turkish-developed KGK guidance and wing kits for Mk.8X-class Western dumb bombs, suggesting Turkish upgrades have enabled the carriage of Western bombs and given the Su-25 a stand-off capability.

 

[CSAW]

The digitized NG means it comes with a digital fuel injection system that will increase thrust, unlike the current versions that have a mechanical fuel injection system. It will be even faster, up to Mach 3.5. A big difference is that, on the Sukhoi, up to five BrahMos-NG missiles could be carried, with two missiles on each wing and one under the fuselage. The MiG-29 and the LCA would carry two

Electronic Fuel metering is a old tech which leads to precise Fuel control due to el pulse generated .

 

[CSAW]

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In that case - All the BVR manufacturers around the globe would ask operators to use 3 BVRs per shot as its advised....!!!

Whereas the same sources claim that Abhinandan was able to shoot F-16 without even firing a single Missile [With all missiles intact - Not even one shot is necessary as per that logic] - All of this boils down to an attempt trying to hide the final outcome that PAF prevailed over IAF in the short skirmish.

In short Proximity hit was claimed - The jet managed to fall on the other side hence claim could not be substantiated with physical proof ala MiG-21. It happens in the cloud of claims & counter claims in a serious conflict.

So lets not waste time . Lets wait for the next Scenario.

The critical Parameters such as NEZ, range ,altitude , Aspect or head on vs Side ON vs Tail Chase lagging, EW environment , launch platform speed , Air density , trajectory, Opposing Bogey response, Chaff & Flares dispensation,Evasive maneuvers, terminal guidance accuracy , Glide zone interval, Loss of KE , Pilot Skill , HOJ / F&F system effectiveness, Type pf Seeker & data link & so on ...
these effect the outcome of a BVR battle & Pk of 0.60.

 

[CSAW]

The given photo clearly shows a burnt-out R-73 on its launcher rail, with its seeker head a few feet ahead, lying near the nose of the MiG-21. Interestingly, the ‘second’ R-73 is NOT visible anywhere in the debris.
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Ghafoor posted a ‘grainy’ low resolution photograph of 4 missiles — 2 x R-77 and 2 x R-73. The R-73 missile seen burnt on its launcher, is very much there with its seeker head lying loose on extreme right. But what is a modern-day miracle is the recovery of a near intact Vympel R-73 from the crash site.
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The ‘tampered evidence’ presented by Ghafoor is exposed by these three pertinent questions:

● Why the grainy image, especially since it’s of no help to a serious observer wanting to examine same for authenticity?
● Why NO observers allowed to check on these missiles — up-close and personal?
●Why NO serial number of the recovered R-73 provided, not even a partial one

Ghafoor’s doctored evidence is proof that ISPR desperately wants to bury the PAF aircraft shoot down theory.

Waste of time. Pages and Pages filled on the incidence.

For this to end - We should agree that Abhinandan never lost his plane and we all are delusional . The Indian officials crying with Piece of AIM-120C is fragment of our imagination. "Kaash Rafale Hotay - Alas if we had Rafales " was never stated. The deficiencies in secured Radio Comms etc were never rectified by IAF. MiG - 21s are great and IAF is replacing them just for fun.

The humiliation of losing a MiG -21 on one side of border and Su-30 on other side leads to all the non sense.

Surely one has more important things to attend to than this.

 

[CSAW]

ASELSAN is Playing a critical role in developing various national subsystems for YF-23 MMU KAAN

The ITAR Free Sub systems development for KAAN in form of various projects taken up by Turkish giant Aselsan.

The BEOS - Integrated EO System

• Karat-100 Infrared search and tracking system
• Toygun-100 Integrated Electro optical Targeting System
• IRIS-300 Infrared missile warning and imaging system
• LIAS-300: Laser Warning System
• YILDIRIM-300 Directed Infrared countermeasure system

The Project BURFIS

• GaN based AESA Radar
• EW Systems
• IRFS
• CMDS

The IMU - Flight Control System Sensors

• Kılavuz-40 system of inertial measurement unit

Helmet Mounted System TULGAR:

• Visor Reflective Helmet Integrated Imaging System and integrated AR interface with Hybrid head tracking system & 40°(H)-32°(V) field of view

The ICNI Project

• NG Next Gen Comm Functions
• Navigation Functions
• Recognition and advanced IFF Identification functions
• ICNI antennas

 

[Tornado23]

The given photo clearly shows a burnt-out R-73 on its launcher rail, with its seeker head a few feet ahead, lying near the nose of the MiG-21. Interestingly, the ‘second’ R-73 is NOT visible anywhere in the debris.
View attachment 928931
Ghafoor posted a ‘grainy’ low resolution photograph of 4 missiles — 2 x R-77 and 2 x R-73. The R-73 missile seen burnt on its launcher, is very much there with its seeker head lying loose on extreme right. But what is a modern-day miracle is the recovery of a near intact Vympel R-73 from the crash site.
View attachment 928932
The ‘tampered evidence’ presented by Ghafoor is exposed by these three pertinent questions:

● Why the grainy image, especially since it’s of no help to a serious observer wanting to examine same for authenticity?
● Why NO observers allowed to check on these missiles — up-close and personal?
●Why NO serial number of the recovered R-73 provided, not even a partial one

Ghafoor’s doctored evidence is proof that ISPR desperately wants to bury the PAF aircraft shoot down theory.

Alan Warnes visited the wreckage of the Mig21 and the missile wrecks. He provided as to why the missiles were in the way they are.

Both R73 and R77 missiles on the right are pretty much destroyed, because that's the side the mig21 hit the ground on. The R77 and R73 on the left are in much better condition.

I don't understand why people always ignore the destroyed R77 that was on the same wing as the destroyed R73. Anyways keep coping

 

[Tornado23]

4 missiles out of which 2 had no warhead section or missile boosters huh? Rest 2 are pretty intact. Ironic wasn't it? You guys showed grainy images of missiles and those lacked warhead and booster for 2 missiles. Ironically one was R-73 which we locked and fired at your jet. Dude you need to know the tip of missile is not warhead, educate yourself on where the warhead is first of all. See that picture and show me where the 4 warheads are and then we will talk, also tell me the place of boosters.

If you cared to have read my post properly I didn't mention anything about the warhead. I know the tip of the missile isn't the warhead. Using that as an argument is purely pathetic. Looking at the state of both R73 and R77 it's easy to say that both missiles were destroyed in the crash. In which they were. Also to note, Alan Warnes spoke about the missing warhead. Ge countered with the thrust vectoring unit still being attached to the missile.
As well as this, this argument is super dumb. It's like me saying the SU30MKI was shot down because the AMRAAM fragment recovered was not the warhead, the warhead of the AMRAAM is missing.

Does a missing warhead mean a jet has been shot down? I'd like to know your answer to this question.

 

[Tornado23]

This twitter video reveals a very vital clue. While loading up the mangled parts at one of the location, NLI soldiers apprear with what has been identified as a smooth finish panel. The IAF has confirmed that this panel is not part of the MiG-21.
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The presence of the NLI troops in loading this panel as compared to the Mujahid troops at the MiG-21 crash site confirms that, first it was a different location from the Abhinandan’s crash site; and second, the chances of this smooth finish panel being a part of the F-16 are very high.

Another photo was accessed the very same day through social media in the Bhimber region of Azad Kashmir, with the picture clearly showing what appears to be a part of a panel of a F-16 jet
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The grey/ light gray camouflage panel can only be a part of a PAF F-16 aircraft
These two photographs provide ample proof that the PAF F-16 had disintegrated after the R-73 hit and its wreckage was strewn and scattered around the area in the same manner as that of the MiG-21

First video is the mig 21 wreckage. You can literally see the crashed mig21 in the first seconds of the vid.

The second image...talking about low resolution images. It proves crap all. Its one piece of debris most likely from the Mig21. All missiles were recovered from the Mig21, the Pentagon confirmed the count saying no F16 was lost. (I bet you are gonna retort with a HT post lol about pentagon saying they didn't hold the count which is blatant propaganda on HT part)

To top it off you claimed the pilot was killed by Pakistani citizens and his name with Shazaz ud Din. Great work.


Cope harder

 

[Tornado23]

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So I guess randos on YouTube comment section hold more knowledge than the Pentagon, Alan Warnes and so on. Okay

You are really grasping at straws here.

The wreckage above shares the same colours as the mig21