Tamil nationalists, Dravidian ideologues locked in battle

[Maravan]

Bro you r very naive if you believe seeman party will get deposit in any seat

This is the same thing, everyone told about vijayakanth when he started a party and contested for the first time.

 

[Maravan]

Ok bro we wil see in may 19

Lets see.. Chances are high for Nainar Nagendran in tirunelveli?

 

[Maravan]

Yes. I think jaya will retain the power

Most likely to happen...

 

[Sam.]

Hi i am from tirunelveli. This seeman guy has no support in tamilnadu.


tamils r doing good in india. There is no separatist movement in tamilnadu . Tamils r staunch followers of Hinduism. In tamilnadu you will see every street hindu temples. You should focus on improving cow belt which is disgracing india internationally

You show you follow Hinduism and yet denote undeveloped area as"cow belt".Your hate for other ethnic Indian shown clearly and your hypocrisy of loving Hinduism.

But there are "Jats" in your vocabulary.

I said Indians as different ethnicity and jatt is ethnicity. They also live in Tamilnadu and if you didn't understand it was a joke.

 

[ShankaraBharanam]

You show you follow Hinduism and yet denote undeveloped area as"cow belt".Your hate for other ethnic Indian shown clearly and your hypocrisy of loving Hinduism.

I said Indians as different ethnicity and jatt is ethnicity. They also live in Tamilnadu and if you didn't understand it was a joke.

He was responding to your "jat" joke by his cow belt jab.

I recognized it as said in jest and responded with an appropriate response.

If you want to dish it out, also learn to take it in good cheer.

 

[Sam.]

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  92% people follow Hinduism in tamilnadu. We have the highest number of temples in india. We don't need certificate from anyone

Then why you keep quoting me and telling me how much you love Hinduism if you don't need certificate.

 

[dadeechi]

do u have any source to support your claim ?

1) One has to first understand the correct time lines that has been arrived at scientifically based on the planetary positions described in various Hindu texts.

2) Ramayana - Birth of Rama 12,240 BCE (Reference - The Historic Rama: Indian Civilization at the end of Pleistocene)

3) Mahabharata - War 5561 BCE ( Reference - When Did The Mahabharata War Happen? : The Mystery of Arundhati )

4) Now Rig Veda (which predates Ramayana) has many references to Agasthya muni. Some of the chapters include 1.165, 1.170, 1.171 Indra, the Maruts, and Agastya. In this group of hymns, Indra and the Maruts argue over their rights to a sacrificial offering; this sacrifice is attributed by tradition to the sage Agastya (Reference : The Rig Veda – Wendy Doniger)

5) Agasthya is son of Mitra-Varuna and Urvashi. Note that Indra-Mitra-Varuna-Rudra are the major gods of Vedic times

6) Avestan, Samskrit and Tamizh - All belong to the same Aryan people.

7) Tolkkappiyam (book on Tamil/Tamizh grammar) has been dated to as late as 8th- 13th centuries while oldest being 300 BCE to the period of Ashoka. The key point to note here is that the author Tolappiyar quotes on the Tamizh grammar rules! written by Sage Agsthyar/Agasthya in his book Agashtyam

8) Agasthya married Lopamudra , the daughter of the king of Vidarbha (which is situated south of the Vindhya mountains) during his journey from North to South.

 

[Twinkletoes]

this thread is filled with crap: modi devotees spreading their usual propaganda about tamil nadu when they have no idea what is going on. seeman is definitely rising from what i have read.
Seeman Is The Rising Star Of Tamil Politics, Making The Campaign Colourful - swarajyamag - April 28, 2016

 

[manlion]

As I said, I do love hitler for destroying the possibility of white supremacy, but he was a worthless leader. Just a useful tool for the rest of us.

was Hitler a tool for coward Subash Chandra Bose , who had to hide under Japanese Fundoshi ?

 

[manlion]

Of course he was. Why the doubt ?

Netaji Bose went to Germany so that the captured Indian soldiers (ex British) could be converted and made to join his Azad Hind Army.

He went to Japan to make a similar deal, that Indian soldiers captured (POW) by the Japanese could be converted and join his army. And they did, in large numbers.

It was classic guerilla warfare. To capture enemy assets and make them your own.

SCB never raised his own army but 'used' POWs to fight the British by seeking aid from imperialist Japanese , tats why he is Coward. In case you aren't aware the Japs screwed him royally and they inturn used "his" INA as free labour - to built their war infrastructure in Thailand and Myanmar

 

[manlion]

SCB did both. He raised his own army

where and who were they care to elaborate ?

It was the first instance of the famed Indian "Non Aligned" in action. Gandhi was aligned with the British, SCB was aligned with the Germans and Japanese. Indians for most part could get trained to kill either of them and come back to India with the memory of shooting all kinds of invaders and use that memory to build a stronger India.

SCB had no success with the Germans as Hitler shied away from supporting a non white.

Japs from their success in Malaya against the British force - viewed the British and Indian soldiers to be inferior , fit for fighting a psychological warfare and provide free labour.

INA was under Japanese command, this compromise didn't work as there was constant disagreement between SCB and Japanese command e.g for SCB - priority was the liberation (Japanese Invasion) of British India , Tokyo's top priority was the Pacific Operation - British India operation was in the back burner .

Imperial Japan had no intention in 'liberating' (invading) British India for SCB - Japanese operation was confine to securing strategic areas in British India for the defence of Burma (Myanmar)

 

[manlion]

Most of the soldiers in the INA came from Expatriate Indians in Burma and Malay and Singapore. Rest were British POW, the leadership was from India.

So SCB didn't have the mettle to raise his army in British India - but had to rely on overseas POWs and 'Expat" British subjects ?

Expatriate Indians ? They were nothing but indentured labourers brought by the British to work in plantations, 90 % Tamil majority - forced conscripts - to serve the Imperial Japanese, a compromise by SCB - to sacrifice poor Tamil labourers for megalomaniac SCB's - grand vision of liberating British India

http://www.theantdaily.com/Main/Death-Railway-a-tragedy-that-can-t-be-forgotten-by-Indians

 

[Immortan.Joe]

where and who were they care to elaborate ?



SCB had no success with the Germans as Hitler shied away from supporting a non white.

Japs from their success in Malaya against the British force - viewed the British and Indian soldiers to be inferior , fit for fighting a psychological warfare and provide free labour.

INA was under Japanese command, this compromise didn't work as there was constant disagreement between SCB and Japanese command e.g for SCB - priority was the liberation (Japanese Invasion) of British India , Tokyo's top priority was the Pacific Operation - British India operation was in the back burner .

Imperial Japan had no intention in 'liberating' (invading) British India for SCB - Japanese operation was confine to securing strategic areas in British India for the defence of Burma (Myanmar)

Read some history ignoramus.


Subhash Chandra Bose had limited success in Germany, and raised Frei Indische legion there, and contrary to what you are espousing, he was treated well in Germany and even married there. You are forgetting that Hitler was a race nationalist and for him Indian race did not existed and he and Himmler prescribed to Aryan-Invasion theory religiously and Indians according to them consisted of high caste descendants of Aryans and untermensch dravidians, which actually makes adoration of Hitler by low caste dravidians like Vanniyars ,as visible in this thread, so much hilarious as ,if he had won, he would have treated those low caste vanniyars as piece of turds who are polluting this planet. (not that he think highly of Indians in general ,who according to him were mongralized, but low caste dravidians in his race hierarchy were pure untermensch)

The reason Bose shifted to Japan was for these reasons.

1. Rommel was defeated in 1942 killing any chance of Germany's advance onto India for time being.

2. Japanese won Singapore where enough Indian PoWs were captured that a viable army could be formed from them.

3. In Axis power negotiations, 70 degree east was initially envisioned as rough border of German and Japanese sphere of influence and later negotiations changed border of possible spheres of influence to run along Western border of British India and Afghanistan. In these negotiations, India was allocated as a nation under Japanese sphere of influence.

4. According to understanding between Germany and Japan in 1942, whole world was divided into two theaters for German and Japanese military with both military not undertaking operations in each-other's theater for sake of having clarity in objectives. India in this scheme fell into Japanese sphere of influence hence it was Japanese military which was to undertake offensive in India.

Thus Subhash chandra bose had no reason to stay in Germany after that.

 

[manlion]

The reason Bose shifted to Japan was for these reasons.

1. Rommel was defeated in 1942 killing any chance of Germany's advance onto India for time being.

2. Japanese won Singapore where enough Indian PoWs were captured that a viable army could be formed from them.

3. In Axis power negotiations, 70 degree east was initially envisioned as rough border of German and Japanese sphere of influence and later negotiations changed border of possible spheres of influence to run along Western border of British India and Afghanistan. In these negotiations, India was allocated as a nation under Japanese sphere of influence.

4. According to understanding between Germany and Japan in 1942, whole world was divided into two theaters for German and Japanese military with both military not undertaking operations in each-other's theater for sake of having clarity in objectives. India in this scheme fell into Japanese sphere of influence hence it was Japanese military which was to undertake offensive in India.

Thus Subhash chandra bose had no reason to stay in Germany after that.

its doesn't matter what factors compelled SCB to work under the Japanese (Axis Power negotiation) - my point in case you missed - was how Japanese used INA to support their war infrastructure with no intention of liberating India - only a delusional megalomaniac would trust the Japanese to do his dirty job

The former Supreme Court judge If "Netaji" was not a Japanese agent, why did he surrender when the Japanese surrendered? He should have carried on a guerilla war against the British.

If the Japanese had been victorious against the British, do you seriously think they would have granted independence to India? No, they would have made India a Japanese colony, and ruthlessly exploited and looted it.

Japanese ate Indian PoWs, used them as live targets in WWII
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...live-targets-in-WWII/articleshow/40017577.cms

 

[Maravan]

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/nati...-plum-job-in-germany-to-contest-in-kovai.html