abdulbarijan
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I went in such detail on a single word because that's the only single statement available from the russian side - the rest are just conjectures and extrapolations...the only statement from a low ranked FM "also talking about delivery of SU35" is the only real statement for which all this brouhaha has been created. One can only draw some observations from that singular statement.
Do me a favor, when you quote me ... don't cherry pick from part of 2 lined sentence with a 4 lined explanation ...
-Secondly, for someone who goes in to such detail over a single word ... I believe you forgot to read the part where the Mig-35 "offer" wasn't really an offer but more of a suggestion for Russian administration, when India did not shortlist the Mig-35 for the MMRCA deal ... Hence the quote of Russia's strategy and technical analysis center assistant director at the time being along the lines of ...
"Russia should let the Indian Air force undertake the consequence for own decision. In the Moscow tradition to maintains the restraint to the Pakistani sell weapon, but refuses in India to purchase under the Mig - 35 new situations, should carefully examine this policy."
Lastly, if you went through my post it had an answer for your point .. so please review it again .. and if you have a point then please do contribute further ...
- I said that this was a 'theory' in jest ... If I were to seriously consider it ... I think I should have gone further and call it a guess or wishful thinking or at best a very weak hypothesis... and let me tell you why ...
Your "theory" is based on the presumptions that;
and this so called 'theory' can be simply dismissed based on two factors ...
- "talks on the delivery of Russian multirole Mi-35M attack helicopters and the latest Su-35 fighter jets." -- are the Deputy FM's exact words ..
- This is so out of the blue, chances are PAF pilots haven't even gotten in a cockpit of a Super Flanker ... which means that the whole process of requirement,trials, analysis price ... etc. has not taken place ... which is necessary for a delivery ..
- The dealings of SU-35 with China ...
hence ... this must mean ... SU-35 only being delivered to PLAAF but can be used to protect investments in Pakistan ...
-Ilya Karmik specifically mentioning Pakistan as a "potential customer" ... Remember this is also Sputnik the same defensenews outlet that reported the Russian Deputy FM's story and this piece was published back in August of 2015.
-The confirmation from the Pakistani side .. although not an exact quote but is reported something like this .. notice the choice of words ...
Bottom line ... Ilya Kramik is calling Pakistan a potential "buyer" ... Pakistani officials are talking about a "Purchase" -- yet your basing your idea on the choice of words that weren't even exact quotes ...
I think this is enough to prove how illogical this idea is ... but lets put an end to this idea once and for all ... by exploring other problems with your theory ...
- Why is it that PLAAF wants to operate ONLY SU-35 in Pakistan to protect its interest ... after all PLAAF has assets from its own industry like say J-11B, J-16/15 are enough to deter any sort of threat ...
- How do you presume that PAF never had access to the SU-35 ... the Mig-35 "suggestion" was in mid 2011 ... in 2012 there were rumors on Chinese forums and even on here that PAF was considering SU-35's ... and this was right after India screwed the Russians out of the MMRCA ... so who is to say Pakistan never had any access to the Super flanker ...
The deal goes through or not is another discussion, but like I said I should have gone further and call it a guess or wishful thinking because it simply has too much flaws and is based on coincidences ...