Taliban blow up boys school in NW Pakistan

[mrwarrior006]

Whole world is not fighting TTP for one. Secondly, it's a covert operation - designed so that they don't get caught. TTP is an effective group for india since it does not attack india, very rarely attacks US, and is almost 100% directed towards Pakistan.

first whole world is against terrorism hence whole world is fighting

second there is no such thing called covert operation in war torned afghanistan

second ttp attacks usa coz usa may be loosin but usa army is not such an army to be engazed often
and for pakistan being attacked(pakistan is not usa)
and ttp not attackin india coz is occupied with pakistan as it has to fight to get its land back
it is deadlock for ttp it cant go afghan as usa will kisck it a$$ and pak is doing it

 

[SMC]

No such thing is covert operation in Afghanistan? You can't be that naive.

Secondly, people will support terrorism if it's in their interests. US did that, Pakistan did that, India did that in 1971 and has been doing in Balochistan for quite some time, and now is doing it at a bigger scale.

And only instance of TTP attacking US is the attack on CIA compound.

Now let me ask this. Where is TTP getting its weaponry and money from? I am not just talking about AK-47s and few million rupees, I am talking about billions of rupees and more sophisticated weapons in large quantities. If you looked at their weapons, they were brand new as well. So clearly they got them recently. Moreover, getting those weapons in that much quantity cannot be done without the help of a state. So you cannot deny there's a state involved here. Now tell me which state has the most to make out of this? Which state wants to get it's enemy denucelearized and attention shifted from it's western border (i.e. eastern border of the enemy)?

 

[mrwarrior006]

ttp or afghan taliban both are considered to be terrorist outfit by usa and wy would india would do such thing which will malign its relations with west

 

[mrwarrior006]

No such thing is covert operation in Afghanistan? You can't be that naive.

Secondly, people will support terrorism if it's in their interests. US did that, Pakistan did that, India did that in 1971 and has been doing in Balochistan for quite some time, and now is doing it at a bigger scale.

And only instance of TTP attacking US is the attack on CIA compound.

Now let me ask this. Where is TTP getting its weaponry and money from? I am not just talking about AK-47s and few million rupees, I am talking about billions of rupees and more sophisticated weapons in large quantities. If you looked at their weapons, they were brand new as well. So clearly they got them recently. Moreover, getting those weapons in that much quantity cannot be done without the help of a state. So you cannot deny there's a state involved here. Now tell me which state has the most to make out of this? Which state wants to get it's enemy denucelearized and attention shifted from it's western border (i.e. eastern border of the enemy)?

let me tell u one thing have u heard the name called agents (like who go to foreign countries and settle and send money and deals u know ) and black market of guns(which also exists in pakistan) and second money through various fund u know wat i am talkin about

 

[SMC]

ttp or afghan taliban both are considered to be terrorist outfit by usa and wy would india would do such thing which will malign its relations with west

Again, it's a covert operation. In other words, those RAW agents supplying to TTP will not show themselves as RAW agents, but rather other Taliban or jihadis. Moreover, even if GoA knew of indian involvement, it wouldn't do much because of where its interests lie.

 

[waraich66]

Whole world is not fighting TTP for one. Secondly, it's a covert operation - designed so that they don't get caught. TTP is an effective group for india since it does not attack india, very rarely attacks US, and is almost 100% directed towards Pakistan.

India trained these guspantai(TTP) and entered them through Kashmir , they wanted to keep PA engaged in FATA by creating disturbance and panic in general public through bomb blasts and barberic actions and also divert world attention from Kashmir issue .

Bombai blast drama was also part of Indian/Isreal strategy and third most dangerous objective of India/Musad is Pak nuke and missile tehnology fasilities .

US/UK wanted to concentrate in Afghanistan for long term period and also operating drones basically collect geographical data of Pakistan mountain regions for identification of our nuke facilities.

 

[SMC]

let me tell u one thing have u heard the name called agents (like who go to foreign countries and settle and send money and deals u know ) and black market of guns(which also exists in pakistan) and second money through various fund u know wat i am talkin about

It's not just about money dude. Even how much money they get can make one suspect state involvement, but it's more about weapons. Again, I am not talking about just guns. I am talking about new, sophisticated weapons, such as morters, in massive quantities.

 

[mrwarrior006]

Again, it's a covert operation. In other words, those RAW agents supplying to TTP will not show themselves as RAW agents, but rather other Taliban or jihadis. Moreover, even if GoA knew of indian involvement, it wouldn't do much because of where its interests lie.

u really think india is such an genious and nato is dumb

 

[mrwarrior006]

India trained these guspantai(TTP) and entered them through Kashmir , they wanted to keep PA engaged in FATA by creating disturbance and panic in general public through bomb blasts and barberic actions and also divert world attention from Kashmir issue .

Bombai blast drama was also part of Indian/Isreal strategy and third most dangerous objective of India/Musad is Pak nuke and missile tehnology fasilities .

US/UK wanted to concentrate in Afghanistan for long term period and also operating drones basically collect geographical data of Pakistan mountain regions for identification of our nuke facilities.

can u provide any prooof to all above of those untill then sayio nara

 

[karan.1970]

That's a really pathetic rebuttal. You do realize that sarcasm does not counter the original argument. It is by nature a strawman argument. Some difference to note. You are not being serious and are making things up. I am not. Did india ever provide evidence about Pakistan's involvement in terrorism before 9/11? It's generally assumed. ISI does want to prove it, but the government we have right now is a drone goverment. They have given proof to respective parties btw, such as GoA, GoI, Afghan government, etc. Musharraf himself said this.

But there is really no arguement to counter. You have not shared any credible proof that India has anything to do with TTP. Niether have any of the world powers whome you claim to have shared this proof with have made any statements to this effect. So just saying that you have proof doesnt prove anything. Even if Musharraf says so as well. He is least trusted in India anyway..

You say that you have proof but the govt is not letting ISI publish it.. There are 2 flaws in your arguement

1. Right now when Pakistan is under so much pressure with world accusing them of sheltering Terrorists, do you think that to GoP would let an opportunity like this go by
2. Has GoP even been able to prevent ISI to do something it wants to do??

Surely I am making things up. To show you that the statements around having proof but not sharing sound so stupid...

 

[mrwarrior006]

India trained these guspantai(TTP) and entered them through Kashmir , they wanted to keep PA engaged in FATA by creating disturbance and panic in general public through bomb blasts and barberic actions and also divert world attention from Kashmir issue .

Bombai blast drama was also part of Indian/Isreal strategy and third most dangerous objective of India/Musad is Pak nuke and missile tehnology fasilities .

US/UK wanted to concentrate in Afghanistan for long term period and also operating drones basically collect geographical data of Pakistan mountain regions for identification of our nuke facilities.

tats the funniest thing i have ever heard

yes india trained them tey also send them through kashmir
now second part tey captured fata,nwf and etc

now telll me where was pakistan army and intelligence in this so called happening by ur logic

 

[SMC]

u really think india is such an genious and nato is dumb

How many times I have to say this. It's a covert operation. And even if GoA knew about it, it wouldn't do anything about it because of its interests.

 

[mrwarrior006]

How many times I have to say this. It's a covert operation. And even if GoA knew about it, it wouldn't do anything about it because of its interests.

tats wat i am saying how can a covert operation cannot be busted by usa and nato(which india wouldn like to be busted)

and my frnd GOA doesnt exist practically its USA and NATO all the way

its more like sying british were the rulers though king were retained

 

[SMC]

But there is really no arguement to counter. You have not shared any credible proof that India has anything to do with TTP. Niether have any of the world powers whome you claim to have shared this proof with have made any statements to this effect. So just saying that you have proof doesnt prove anything. Even if Musharraf says so as well. He is least trusted in India anyway..

The proof has been shared with respective governments. If you notice from history, proof is normally not released to public until states believe it. It is shared with states. That has been done. And world powers are ran by their interests. It's not in US interests to stop indian terrorism.

You say that you have proof but the govt is not letting ISI publish it.. There are 2 flaws in your arguement

1. Right now when Pakistan is under so much pressure with world accusing them of sheltering Terrorists, do you think that to GoP would let an opportunity like this go by
2. Has GoP even been able to prevent ISI to do something it wants to do??


Surely I am making things up. To show you that the statements around having proof but not sharing sound so stupid...

Again, the problem with GoP is it's not taking the proof to UN or something. GoA might be pressuring GoP in not doing so because it is not in US interests if india involvement becomes public. We know the proof exists, we know india is heavily involved in supporting terrorism. It has shared the proof with the states involved.

 

[SMC]

tats wat i am saying how can a covert operation cannot be busted by usa and nato(which india wouldn like to be busted)

and my frnd GOA doesnt exist practically its USA and NATO all the way

its more like sying british were the rulers though king were retained

It would only be busted if they wanted it to be busted, or if they knew about it. It's a covert operation, and they are not making any efforts to know about it since it's not in their interests..