Agreed - the sects still are political. That's how Mullahs get to do badmashi, they use people's religious and sectarian sentiments for political gain. Many of the original movements were the need of their time. I agree, but they can be laid to rest, or at the very least reformed, for today's situation.
Wrong argument dude. Sects are a major part of the problem, because they represent a division in opinion. The clerics that use sectarian issues for political gains end up giving justifications to terrorist/militia groups. That needs to go. The only reason it works in Christianity and Judaism is because no one takes them that seriously - i.e no one wants to legislate a nation based on the views held by a particular denomination or sect.
No sir the concept is there if you have chosen to be on side of those who want to betray your choice majority Muslim are not traitors and they will continue the struggle and fight if Muslim governments don't do their job they will be thrown out soon
Describe it.
Fools, you'll get us all killed. Fighting like monkeys is worthless when your opponent has better weapons, better tactics, better organization and better logistics. The Prophet s.a.w himself acknowledged this fact when he dug the trench during the battle of Khandaq.
Islam allows for a lot of thinking room and a lot of different opinions to coexist without forming entirely different sects. But it is more profitable for clerics to form sects and hate other sects.
So basically you are disagreeing with me by agreeing with me. That doesn't make sense. You told me I am wrong then proceeded to repeat the exact same thing I have said.
I never said sects themselves need to go. I said that aspect of sects needs to go. I am fine with people believing stupid things as long as they don't claim it to be 'true Islam' and try to shove it down my throat by making it part of the state's legislation or by forming political parties that do the same.
You're misunderstanding my argument. I never said people don't believe in them. I said that no one takes them as seriously as to want to base their country's legislation on them.
Yes, that is precisely what happens. The sects cause a division among scholars, not just because of difference in opinion but because of difference in sect (politically). So what happens is that people end up opposing a point of view just because it is held by a sect, not because they logically disagree with it.
When Muslims lands are attacked you fight with what ever you have so now to take Kashmir and Palestine we would have to fight weather you like it or not. Mindless is those traitors who just cowardly want to hide under bed and do nothing when Muslims are killed and cry like kids when militant groups rise to do it.
How about intelligent fighting? How about we unite and develop the Muslim countries first? The Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w) did not take aggressive action against the Kuffar until he had united the Muslims and laid the foundations of a proper state. He was intelligent. He wanted his Ummah to be intelligent too.
Do you realize that MUSLIMS have killed more MUSLIMS in Syria, over the course of two years, than Israel has in seventy years? Seriously. We must stop that before stopping Israel. If you want to save Muslim lives, the best way to do that is by solving problems among Muslims themselves. If you want to save Muslim lands, same thing.
Bull. Militant groups don't rise ''to do it''. They rise for their own political gains. If they wanted ''to do it'', they wouldn't be killing Muslims.
We can do that after those issues are solved until than militants will try on there own and we would have no peace in our countries, and you are smart enough to know peace is crucial to progress
No, we can't. If we're to follow your plan, we'd all be dead by the time the issues are 'solved'.
Are you blind? I already showed you that those militants aren't 'trying'. They're killing OUR children, our people. Besides, Innocent people are innocent regardless of their nationality.
