Rafi - Not everything is a conspiracy theory. And please, there is no reason for you to go holier than thou. Otherwise every single time a generalissimo kicks the constitution of Pakistan out of the window and takes it upon himself to rule, he's kicking the graves of a million plus people who died in their struggle to get to Pakistan. They were all civilians.
And please, let me also set the record straight on the war on terror front. More civilians have died in this war, than all of the casualties suffered by army combined (injured/shaheed). So please, next time you wish to go holier than thou on Pakistanis, try something else.
So very typical to brand anyone who questions your actions, as a traitor. That saves you from answering the questions.
Since the Army was running the country under Musharraf pre-2008 elections, blame them for what happened during Musharraf's regime.
Thanks for agreeing to that part. No one is discounting the civilian government of their share of the blame, they are to be blamed for the entire fiasco. Albeit my opinion on the release of R. Davis is in sharp contrast with populist opinion. He would have been released one way or the other. There is nothing that the Pakistan army or the Civilian government could have done about it. Both of them are tied at the heels when it comes to dealing with the US both economically and in defense.
But this could have been done in a much proper way instead, that is, without inciting the masses. That incitement bit will be responsible for agitating people into picking up arms, and we will have no one but ourselves to be blamed for it.
What I was trying to point out in my post was the fact that you're being a tad myopic but only calling out the civilians and not trying to see the whole picture. Hence the example of KLB, while it did go through, it only happened after changes were made to it - according to the wishes of Pakistan Army.
The PPP/Zardari position on drone strikes is clear, as is the fact that their position is not under coercion from the Army
Absolutely agreed on that point.
And did the PPP or PML-N utilize these 'other means' to stop the guilty individuals from escaping? The point of mentioning this?
As mentioned above, PPP and PML N were on board with the release of Davis. What I am pointing at in that post is the fact that the entire deal was not about simply killing of two Pakistani men. And that ISI wasn't entirely unaware of his status in Pakistan, as they made it look like afterwards.
Yes he escaped and continues to be sheltered in Afghanistan - your point? OBL escaped after being 'surrounded' in Tora Bora as well. Escape does not equate treachery by those hunting him.
Did OBL manage to escape out of Afghanistan? Because in this instance, Fazal-e-Hayat did mange to escape out of Pakistan into Afghanistan, with which the valley of Swat has no physical boundary. And that too after being declared surrounded and injured. Feel free to disagree, but given how the entire thing played out, I beg to disagree.
We have nothing but speculation about the circumstances around Davis's arrest, and there is nothing to indicate that the team the ISI was working with in the Baradar case was the same as some alleged team that Davis was working with.
That's only according to people who do not want to question the circumstances surrounding this incident. Just do a little bit of research on JSOC ops inside Pakistan, their history since 2006 and you'll see where I'm coming from.
The people of Pakistan then need to change. If they want representative democracy, they cannot look to the Army for 'policy making' and 'fixing the country'.
No one looks at the army to devise policy, they've considered it their God-given right since 1958. As for why hasn't their authority been challenged so far, well for one they're the ones with arms. And secondly civilians too have had their faults. We have almost never been able to recover from the utter destruction of Pakistan's entire political capital (of people who made Pakistan) during Ayub's era.
They need to hold their elected leaders accountable, and their elected leaders need to let their constituents know when they have disagreements with the Army, such as over the KLB. That way, the people can see whether or not the Army is pushing through policy, or their elected leaders are.
Absolutely, that's the only way things can improve in Pakistan.