Sharia laws, theories vary among world's Muslims

[Flintlock]

Ethics are scribed within both secular and divine law. Problem with secular law is that it can be changed and ethics can mean squat. Divine law - as horrid as it may seem to you - doesn't offer that luxury to anyone, unless we bring in the issues of corruption and defilement

That's where you are wrong. Ethics are universal, and unless a majority of the population turns insane, the general consensus is always right.

Any sane person would agree that killing is bad, stealing is bad, and kids need to be raised well. If people need a holy book to tell them these things, then something, somewhere, is seriously wrong.

And they don't. Successful societies never need divine books to tell them how to behave. Japan, the best example I can think of. Ethics come naturally, and can be taught in schools, and enforced through secular law. There is no need for a priest.

IMO, if mankind can do away with the holy books once and for all, it'll help us a great deal.

 

[Quwa]

That's where you are wrong. Ethics are universal, and unless a majority of the population turns insane, the general consensus is always right.

Any sane person would agree that killing is bad, stealing is bad, and kids need to be raised well. If people need a holy book to tell them these things, then something, somewhere, is seriously wrong.

And they don't. Successful societies never need divine books to tell them how to behave. Japan, the best example I can think of. Ethics come naturally, and can be taught in schools, and enforced through secular law. There is no need for a priest.

IMO, if mankind can do away with the holy books once and for all, it'll help us a great deal.

Sadly you're wrong because history says otherwise...the only thing most powerful humans have in common is hypocrisy. Society can say killing is bad, yet it can go around nuking, napalming and war-hunting for personal interests, and that somehow skips 'ethics'. At best ethics is a study in the secular world and a integral demand in religion. Laws and societal perceptions can trasnscend ethics because people are selfish...selfish people cannot however justify themselves in front of religion.

There were no holy books involved in the worst of genocides, crimes and societal blunders. Concepts of depression, recession, debt, etc, are all technical issues that can be regulated through religion. Take a look around you...the worse-off societies have a technical problem caused by a minority force dominating through crude oppression as opposed to an ethical issue due to their generally religious and spiritual inclinations.

 

[MIG_ACE]

Yes, and prophets have been around before Jesus and Muhammad...the first man on Earth was a prophet.

Which "man" exactly? Homo Erectus? At what point in the evolutionary stage would you start defining the evolved ape as "man".

And what of the many millions of years before that in the earth's lifetime when there were no "men"?

 

[EagleEyes]

Which "man" exactly? Homo Erectus? At what point in the evolutionary stage would you start defining the evolved ape as "man".

And what of the many millions of years before that in the earth's lifetime when there were no "men"?

Evolution doesn't exist my friend.

 

[Awesome]

Evolution doesn't exist my friend.

Alright, the starting point of a 500 post thread

 

[Samudra]

This thread was allowed to be derailed.

 

[MIG_ACE]

Evolution doesn't exist my friend.

Right!
So the fossils and other evidence found was planted by the CIA.

Well my earlier post was off-topic anyways....so just ignore it.