Shame on United States of America

[longbrained]

Idiot President Camacho,

You mean these?

Or the video records of testimonies of Iraq WMDs and its connection to alCIAda? Because those also exist too.

 

[Hussein]

Thank you for your consideration of our country. great appreciation

About Thomas, i think he has high moral values and these values give him to come with his heart
about the religion matters we don't agree but how to blame him when USA-Iran relations are so bad
that both countries say the worst about each other:
USA exagerate some points but still we are worst and we don't live in democratic standard

i don't want to be anti or pro american. i don't care.
i care for my country ... and for the countries around .
i totally agree with muse on this subject: we have to change. stop the propaganda or hatred.
you know when you feel someone hate you for its own reason, if you insult him there will be nothing change.
if you explain he is wrong with all your heart you'll be more successful.

Waco... i just heard it was a crazy sect, no?

 

[longbrained]

Where is your "humanity" for the countless thousands suffering and dying in Pakistan every day?

If US leaves Pakistan alone, then all those sufferings will come to an end. That is the consensus among Pakistani population.

 

[VCheng]

If US leaves Pakistan alone, then all those sufferings will come to an end. That is the consensus among Pakistani population.

So Karachi will be peaceful?

No loadshedding?

No inflation?

Courts will work?

Police will no longer be corrupt?

Yeah, right.

Pakistan being a hellhole is not the US's fault.

 

[longbrained]

Thank you for your consideration of our country. great appreciation

About Thomas, i think he has high moral values and these values give him to come with his heart
about the religion matters we don't agree but how to blame him when USA-Iran relations are so bad
that both countries say the worst about each other:
USA exagerate some points but still we are worst and we don't live in democratic standard

i don't want to be anti or pro american. i don't care.
i care for my country ... and for the countries around .
i totally agree with muse on this subject: we have to change. stop the propaganda or hatred.
you know when you feel someone hate you for its own reason, if you insult him there will be nothing change.
if you explain he is wrong with all your heart you'll be more successful.

Waco... i just heard it was a crazy sect, no?

Thanks for your appreciation.

No it was not a crazy sect, dear brother. That was a military grade propaganda tailored to make the massacre of one year old baby girls and pregnant women palatable for public consumption. I mean you would not agree to killings of one year old babies under normal circumstances, would you? It is more palatable if you are told those one year old babies were part of a crazy sect.

 

[President Camacho]

Idiot President Camacho,

You mean these?

Rules of engagement is a 2 hour long documentary.

Why show the only 10 min part that you want everyone to see?

Why not the one where the 12 year old girl tells in detail where David Koresh touched her?

Why not the one where one of his own followers testifies that yes they tweaked the weapons?

Why not the one where it clearly proves that those triggering the violence on part of the ATC were two rogue elements, and rest of the department was kept in the dark?

Why not tell everyone that the siege lasted months but none of those followers came out to surrender?

Quit telling the one sided story and be honest at once. And quit calling names if you want anymore attention.

 

[longbrained]

So Karachi will be peaceful?

No loadshedding?

No inflation?

Courts will work?

Police will no longer be corrupt?

Yeah, right.

Pakistan being a hellhole is not the US's fault.

Exactly that.

Pakistan is not a hell hole. I think you should remove the Pakistani flag from your profile after making such a statement.

All problem Pakistan is facing today are either directly related to US or indirectly. Pakistan has lost some 70 billion dollars directly as the result of doing US favors only in the past 10 years. We are not talking about indirect costs. We are not talking about the costs Pakistan has paid since 1950 when it joined American club. Pakistan has load shedding and US prevents Pakistan from importing energy. Pakistan has poverty and US drags Pakistan into an unwanted expensive war.

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Rules of engagement is a 2 hour long documentary.

Why show the only 10 min part that you want everyone to see?

Why not the one where the 12 year old girl tells in detail where David Koresh touched her?

Why not the one where one of his own followers testifies that yes they tweaked the weapons?

Why not the one where it clearly proves that those triggering the violence on part of the ATC were two rogue elements, and rest of the department was kept in the dark?

Why not tell everyone that the siege lasted months but none of those followers came out to surrender?

Quit telling the one sided story and be honest at once. And quit calling names if you want anymore attention.

Because once you are in US regime prisons you will be tortured to tell anything. By the way, no matter what kind of propaganda you bring in here, it will never make killings of one year babies and pregnant women morally correct, ever. You can dig as much lies, deception and propaganda as you like, still killings of babies through a moral prism is wrong. Of course I am not talking about idiots here.

 

[VCheng]

Exactly that.

Pakistan is not a hell hole. I think you should remove the Pakistani flag from your profile after making such a statement.

All problem Pakistan is facing today are either directly related to US or indirectly. Pakistan has lost some 70 billion dollars directly as the result of doing US favors only in the past 10 years. We are not talking about indirect costs. We are not talking about the costs Pakistan has paid since 1950 when it joined American club. Pakistan has load shedding and US prevents Pakistan from importing energy. Pakistan has poverty and US drags Pakistan into an unwanted expensive war.

So the mess is not Pakistan own fault?

Here is the truth: It is ALL the Pakistani's own fault. Nobody else's. The day the nation realizes this fact is the day it will start to rectify the situation. Blaming someone else is the cowards' way out.

The word hellhole describes the present situation in Pakistan quite correctly.

 

[President Camacho]

Because once you are in US regime prisons you will be tortured to tell anything. By the way, no matter what kind of propaganda you bring in here, it will never make killings of one year babies and pregnant women morally correct, ever. You can dig as much lies, deception and propaganda as you like, still killings of babies through a moral prism is wrong. Of course I am not talking about idiots here.

There you go. You just disproved yourself.

If the US regime can torture anyone into saying anything, then what does it say about the videos you posted?

They are all Americans, perhaps the government tortured the ATC and the FBI personnel into accepting all the wrong that they did, right?

Oh man, I am waiting for Alex Jones to get tortured... I hope they make a video of it too

 

[longbrained]

So the mess is not Pakistan own fault?

Here is the truth: It is ALL the Pakistani's own fault. Nobody else's. The day the nation realizes this fact is the day it will start to rectify the situation. Blaming someone else is the cowards' way out.

The word hellhole describes the present situation in Pakistan quite correctly.

I am sure strong majority of Pakistanis would disagree with you completely. The mess in Pakistan has its origins in Washington and London. US supports corruption in Pakistan by backing corrupt leaders here and giving them refuge.

Anyways, stay on topic.

This thread is about US through a MORAL prism and not about Pakistan. If you like you can create a thread with your favorite title of "Pakistan is a hell hole" and see the responses in that thread.

 

[VCheng]

I am sure strong majority of Pakistanis would disagree with you completely. The mess in Pakistan has its origins in Washington and London. US supports corruption in Pakistan by backing corrupt leaders here and giving them refuge.

Anyways, stay on topic.

This thread is about US through a MORAL prism and not about Pakistan. If you like you can create a thread with your favorite title of "Pakistan is a hell hole" and see the responses in that thread.

Of course, let's stay on topic, but the problem is that you as an individual do not have a "moral" prism to judge an entire nation, so the basic premise of your thread is fatally flawed.

 

[longbrained]

There you go. You just disproved yourself.

If the US regime can torture anyone into saying anything, then what does it say about the videos you posted?

They are all Americans, perhaps the government tortured the ATC and the FBI personnel into accepting all the wrong that they did, right?

Oh man, I am waiting for Alex Jones to get tortured... I hope they make a video of it too

Idiot,

The people on the videos are those who have fallen out of favor by US government. US only needs to torture as much as it is necessary and not more. That is how big brother government works, idiot. They just tortured enough to create a public perception through propaganda that the community was a cult and that its membership by one year old babies unlawful so that those one year old babies could be slaughtered without massive public uprising. Once that sick perception was there among majority of public then there is no need to inflame the situation anymore than it is and draw attention to it by torturing some one like Alex Jones. Anyways, you can go on believe that killing one year old babies and pregnant women is a heroic act. That is just your morality. The morality of an idiot.

 

[longbrained]

Of course, let's stay on topic, but the problem is that you as an individual do not have a "moral" prism to judge an entire nation, so the basic premise of your thread is fatally flawed.

Actually we all do. We all have moral prisms. For some one like you that prism might be broken in addition to their brains and their eyes. Read comments again. I did not judge American public as a whole. I just judged the US regime. But why are you so angry and on flames? After all this is the way filths like you treat countries like Iran and Pakistan. You judge not only their governments but also their public. So stay on topic which is US through a moral prism. That is the topic, and keep to it.

 

[President Camacho]

Waco... i just heard it was a crazy sect, no?

Do not fall for his lies, he is speaking out of sheer frustration and hatred.

The cult leader proclaimed himself as the messiah.

He required of every man in the cult to practice abstinence, so he could procreate with their wives.

Marriageable age in the cult was 11-12, and many children that age testified to have been married to him, and the marriage consummated too.

I am sure such things are not crazy for someone like the thread opener, but in the norm they are considered not only crazy, but also outright criminal.

 

[VCheng]

Actually we all do. We all have moral prisms. For some one like you that prism might be broken in addition to their brains and their eyes. Read comments again. I did not judge American public as a whole. I just judged the US regime. But why are you so angry and on flames? After all this is the way filths like you treat countries like Iran and Pakistan. You judge not only their governments but also their public. So stay on topic which is US through a moral prism. That is the topic, and keep to it.

Well, seen from MY moral prism, the US appears just fine and dandy. So there. We balance each other out!