Secularists should 'mend ways or leave country', says PTI lawmaker

[Verve]

Knowledge comes from GOD and the SAME GOD prohibits us to seek knowledge? Now you see the contradiction.

Pay attention to the post.

Care to explain how exactly free-thinkers ignores Allah's words and signs? Again, the examples would be nice since you are struggling to make your points clear.

I never said God forbids us from seeking knowledge. You clearly have comprehension problems.

If you start thinking outside the parameters of what Allah says, then you are entering free-thinking. Let me ask you another question, would you reflect/think about life without taking in to consideration that 'Allah exists'?

 

[M. Sarmad]

and see below:

libertine
ˈlɪbətiːn,ˈlɪbətɪn,ˈlɪbətʌɪn/
noun

1. 1.
   a person, especially a man, who freely indulges in sensual pleasures without regard to moral principles.
   "his image as an unbridled libertine is a total myth"
   synonyms: philanderer, ladies' man, playboy, rake, roué, loose-liver, Don Juan, Lothario,Casanova, Romeo; More
   
   
2. 2.
   a freethinker in matters of religion.

adjective

1. 1.
   characterized by free indulgence in sensual pleasures.
   "his more libertine impulses"
   synonyms: licentious, lustful, libidinous, lecherous, lascivious, lubricious, dissolute, dissipated,debauched, immoral, wanton, shameless, degenerate, depraved, debased, profligate,promiscuous, unchaste, lewd, prurient, salacious, indecent, immodest, impure, carnal,intemperate, abandoned, unrestrained, unprincipled, reprobate; More
   
   
2. 2.
   freethinking.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/libertine

Please stop embarrassing yourself. Admit that you were mistaken, and give it a rest.

 

[Finer]

Im at a loss for words, im utterly preplexed, have u no shame??

Shame? You are the one with the allegation here. Making allegation without evidence to back is sort of shameful manner in speaking. But i am giving you opportunity to prove me liar in front of the whole public forum.

I have never said any of those words. And if i am lying, then it is not that hard to prove me liar since the archive in my account is at your disposal. All the best!

 

[Awan68]

I told you last time don't waste others time by quoting them and writing silly replies looks like it didn't got through your head don't force me to report you and put you on my ignore list.

U put an opinion on a public forum, i will qoute u at my liesure, its not my headache if u have the emotional stability of a teenager girl, go to private chats if u want to avoid harrasment or sue me, and by the way feel free to report me a thousand times, i beg u ....

 

[MultaniGuy]

Backward conservatives must leave Canada. They do not belong in the progressive Canada.

Very funny lol@ you. Canada claims to be a country for everybodyD

 

[Finer]

I never said God forbids us from seeking knowledge. You clearly have comprehension problems.

If you start thinking outside the parameters of what Allah says, then you are entering free-thinking. Let me ask you another question, would you reflect/think about life without taking in to consideration that 'Allah exists'?

That is why i asked for examples which you cannot come with any while you are trying to make point which conflicts your own views to begin with.

Let's keep it simple;

What would be examples of free-thinkers going against the commandments of Allah?

 

[Awan68]

What does free thinkers mean to you? Let's get clear clarity on this.

You and Verve appears to be confused while talking about knowledge, yet going against free thinkers which is purpose of seeking knowledge in the first place. That is how technology is born, cure are discovered, and mathematic are formed.

It seems like im banging my head against a wall...

 

[Verve]

Please stop embarrassing yourself. Admit that you were mistaken, and give it a rest.

Idiot, you have been proven wrong. Google translation 'libertine meaning' (type that) is what I posted and dictionary.com has the same! That's two references for you!

 

[Awan68]

That is why i asked for examples which you cannot come with any while you are trying to make point which conflicts your own views to begin with.

Let's keep it simple;

What would be examples of free-thinkers going against the commandments of Allah?

Freethinkers like feminists and gay marraige advocates, all that is bieng done in the name of freedom and freethought...

 

[Finer]

Very funny lol@ you. Canada claims to be a country for everybodyD

For everyone who endorses multiculturalism, equality, progression, pro-life and believe in the liberal democracy of Canada. And your view is against the basic fundamental of Canada. Now you see the hypocrisy while deciding the fate for liberal people. You don't belong in progressive Canada if you are anti-progressive.

 

[The Sandman]

Im at a loss for words, im utterly preplexed, have u no shame??

Funny it's you who's asking this tell me why you people always stoop to these levels when you run out of arguments? first you quoted me on this thread with your emotionally charged rants than when i countered it with facts you ran away now again you quoted me and i countered it with logic you reply back with "lol" and now you're stooping to this level? so what's next you're gonna start abusing in the next reply? because as i said you aren't the first one that i have encountered there are a lot zombies here.

 

[Verve]

That is why i asked for examples which you cannot come with any while you are trying to make point which conflicts your own views to begin with.

Let's keep it simple;

What would be examples of free-thinkers going against the commandments of Allah?

I gave you an example in the form of a question. Answer that!

If you think that Allah doesn't exist and reflect on life, you are a freethinker! It is as simple as that. Still difficult for you?

Another example:

'Do not marry idolatresses, until they believe', repeatedly again in the very next ayat. Upon reflection,
1. what conclusion would you come to taking these commands into consideration; and
2. what conclusion would you come to without taking that command into consideration?

 

[Finer]

Freethinkers like feminists and gay marraige advocates, all that is bieng done in the name of freedom and freethought...

Gay marriage and feminists? Islam that crushed barbaric conservative dominated culture and gave new face for women 1400 years ago. Are you talking about same Islam that gave new platform for women 1400 years ago?

Gay marriage? It is not free-thinkers. It is gay people fighting for their rights. Both feminism and gay marriage have nothing to do with free-thinkers. That is human rights issues. Quite frankly, your understanding on free-thinkers is limited which explains your habitual of self-contradicting yourself.

Technology, medical cure, mathematics would be example of free-thinkers that pursue the knowledge beyond Islam.

 

[The Sandman]

U put an opinion on a public forum, i will qoute u at my liesure, its not my headache if u have the emotional stability of a teenager girl, go to private chats if u want to avoid harrasment or sue me, and by the way feel free to report me a thousand times, i beg u ....

This is your level you think you look "cool" with these insults that kids use in schools? you looks like an emotionally charged 15 yo who can't have a rational debate based on facts all you can do is use these petty insults that you probably learned yesterday.

 

[Awan68]

This is your level you think you look "cool" with these insults that kids use in schools? you looks like an emotionally charged 15 yo who can't have a rational debate based on facts all you can do is use these petty insults that you probably learned yesterday.

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