Saif al-Arab
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Come on Saif at least grow a spine and admit the truth that your leaders have sold their souls to the Zionists This is the month of Ramadan, so speak the truth, or maybe you have an hidden agenda. Are you related to the Al-Saud family?
Oh, my days, the great Arabs are now taking lessons of diplomacy from there non-Muslim counter parts. Do you have no shame that you shook the hands of a person who insulted and disrespected Islam and the culture of your country. But of course you don't because you need to house of Saud protected don't you? There is no difference between Iran or Saudi Arabia, both of them have plagued the Muslim world. I guess money is more valued than respect, dignity and religion. If Saudi Arabia doesn't care about Donald Trump, then why did you invest 350 billion dollars in the American economy? Have the guts to speak the truth...at least I had the guts to criticize Pakistan and its leaders...can you do the same....prove me wrong....or do you follow a cult.
Where exactly have I backtracked on? Haha, you very make me laugh brother Saif, but if you want to live in lala land, then be my guess.
This was in response when you claimed that I don't have the guts to attack Pakistan and its corrupt leaders. So clearly I have proved you wrong, since I am above following some cult family. Show some Arab bravery and admit that your leaders have sold their souls to the Zionists...can you do that brother Saif
Egoism is never good in Islam. So if you did create three great empires then why don't you have the guts to defend your country yourself. I find you so funny, instead of asking Allah for guidance, you beg to the United States for protection No wonder the Iranians find the current Arab regimes so weak. Become men and fight your own battles for a change. Pakistan may not have existed, however, a number of our ancestors were Arab. At least our people have the decency to feel ashamed when our leaders bow down to the Zionists and don't think about making the Muslim ummah much stronger.
I am the last person that has to grow a spine. I am as frank as they come around here and I always say things openly.
I don't take this "Zionism" nonsense seriously when there are several Muslim countries who have official diplomatic relations with Israel, who cooperate with them on all fronts (economically and militarily), who host their embassies in their lands etc. KSA has never had any serious relations with Israel ever since they appeared on the map in 1948. In fact KSA was part of the Arab bloc that fought against Israel pre-1948. Similarly afterwards. It was the same KSA that orchestrated the oil embargo as a response to Israeli policies. It is the same KSA that has donated more to Palestine than any other Muslim country and the same KSA that hosts almost 1 million Palestinians while giving them special rights that no other expats, Arab as non-Arab have. The same KSA that brokered the best peace proposal so far called the Arab Peace Initiative.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Peace_Initiative
A peace initiative accepted by Palestine (West Bank, Fatah, Abbas) and Hamas alike as well as the entire Arab League more than once.
The same KSA where all polls shows that at least 90% of the people have negative views on Israel. The same KSA that has had some of the most fierce anti-Zionist clerics in the modern era. That KSA.
No, I am not related to the House of Saud but I know a few members and my family have connections. However my personal opinion is irrelevant here but nevertheless I have always openly criticized what I did not like and continue to do that in person and whenever such topics are discussed. In fact I am firmly of the belief that the GCC and wider Arab and Muslim world needs political and social reforms and I have written long and detailed posts about what I wish to see in KSA in terms of political and social changes. Even proposed a reformed political system in detail that I outlined on PDF and elsewhere (Arab forums). So no, no cult following here.
You are still talking about those 350 billion dollars not knowing that those are mutual investments and that this will benefit KSA immensely as ToT is obligatory in the deal and it will create dozens upon dozens of industries in KSA, jobs and moreover is in line with the goals of Saudi Vision 2030. It has nothing to do with past deals.
No, I don't because I am not foolish enough to think that KSA can do anything to change what Donald Trump is saying or what the US is doing. Nobody can which is why they are a sole superpower. Or do you want us to destroy ourselves like Saddam Hussein did and the Mullah's have done in order to score a few brownie points among mostly Muslims in third world countries that live in la-la land as you wrote?
Understand that we live in 2017. We (Arabs and Muslims) are not in positions that we once were. We cannot expect miracles.
Pre-1991 we had very little focus on our military because we thought that nobody would invade Bilad al-Haramain so we were forced to (not really as the US/west/world would have acted regardless due to the importance of the GCC and the region) rely on the US. Nowadays we don't have to in order to guard our own safety and prosperity and once the goals in the Saudi Vision 2030 are implemented even less so. The US, or rather their private companies and military sector, are helping us in this regard and offering us weaponry that no other country is able to let alone willing to. At the same time we cultivate booming ties with the East (as have been the case for millennia) which is why China is our largest trade partner and why 70 billion dollar big deals were signed with China when King Salman visited earlier this year, West, Arab and Muslim world and developing markets in Latin America and Sub-Saharan Africa.
Apparently it is haram for KSA to have economic and military ties with the US and West but halal for all the other Muslim countries (99% of them) or even those of which are NATO members (Turkey). So if such a discourse is not hypocrisy what is it then?
Lastly why is it that you expect KSA to save the entire Muslim world when we have a lot to do ourselves and are far, far away from being a superpower? Even if we were a superpower I doubt that we would be able to change much. It's something that the countries and peoples have to do themselves just like we have to improve ourselves as nobody else will do that for us.
Tillerson urges Arab nations to resolve rift with Qatar
By Mark Moore
June 5, 2017 | 9:32am | Updated
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Secretary of State Rex Tillerson on Monday called on Gulf states to “sit down together” to work out their differences to resolve a deepening diplomatic rift with Qatar.
“We certainly would encourage the parties to sit down together and address these differences,” Tillerson said during a stop in Sydney. “If there’s any role that we can play in terms of helping them address those, we think it is important that the GCC (Gulf Cooperation Council) remain united.”
A number of Gulf nations — Bahrain, United Arab Emirates, Egypt, Yemen, Libya and Saudi Arabia — announced they were severing ties with Qatar over what they say is the country’s support for terrorism and its relations with Iran.
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Saudi Arabia, which has been fighting Iran-backed rebels in Yemen for two years, cut diplomatic relations and closed borders with its neighbor to “protect its national security from the dangers of terrorism and extremism, ” the official Saudi Press Agency said.
Yemen said Qatar’s support of extremist groups in Yemen is “in contradiction with the goals announced by the countries supporting the legitimate government.”
Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Egypt and the UAE all also suspended flights to Qatar,
Qatar, which is home to a major U.S. military base used for the air campaign against Islamic State terrorists in the Middle East, said there was “no legitimate justification” for the cutting of diplomatic ties.
Qatar has been accused of backing ISIS fighters in Iraq and providing financial support for terror groups in Syria, allegations the nation denies.
Iran on Monday blamed President Trump for the division between Saudi Arabia and Qatar.
The official IRNA news agency cited the $110 billion arms deal between the US and Saudi Arabia that Trump announced during his visit to the oil-rich kingdom two weeks ago.
Alaeddin Boroujerdi, Iran’s head of the parliamentary committee on national security and foreign policy, said the US is encouraging a divide among Muslim countries.
“Intervention of foreign countries, especially the United States, cannot be the solution to regional problems,” he said according to IRNA.
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Which is the official policy of KSA as KSA is the de facto leader of the GCC so a united GCC is in the best interests of KSA.
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