Saudi diplomat booked for gangrape, police free woman, daughter from his Gurgaon residence.

[Dr. Sen]

I was given a warning and a negative rating for my opinion on Saudis before.. So I shall hold my piece for my own peace of mind

Hmm, so a negetive rating had such an impact on you, that you surrendered your right to express your opinion on a public forum?

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

Whats the Sharia punishment for this type of a crime? Anyone who knows?

As per sharia ... the women will have to produce 3 male witness for the rape only then some kind of discussion on this will go forward.

 

[Mrc]

Whats the Sharia punishment for this type of a crime? Anyone who knows?

If proven sharia punishment for rape is death by public execution... its in law in all middle eastern countries

 

[Gibbs]

Hmm, so a negetive rating had such an impact on you, that you surrendered your right to express your opinion on a public forum?

Not really.. Just stating a fact.. Online forum's has zero impact on me personally.. Lol

But my opinion on them will bound to derail the thread

 

[Dr. Sen]

As per sharia ... the women will have to produce 3 male witness for the rape only then some kind of discussion on this will go forward.

If proven sharia punishment for rape is death by public execution... its in law in all middle eastern countries

Thanks, so if the Saudis would like to get them extradited and provide a fair trail, this is what we are looking at.

 

[Nilgiri]

If they cut off the hands for stealing...why not cut off the cigar and marbles for rape instead of execution.

I think death is too easy an escape for someone like this.

Thanks, so if the Saudis would like to get them extradited and provide a fair trail, this is what we are looking at.

Saudis dont need to get the diplomat (if he really is one) and his wife "extradited". They have immunity so will just be expelled from India if KSA does not waive it. Once they arrive in KSA, it is up to KSA to decide how to proceed...taking into effect the status of this guy w.r.t Saudi royal family and take into consideration ties with India etc.

 

[Makaramarma]

It is front page NEWS in two newspaper that I read.

That is GOOD ......... that is the only way Justice can be done. Our tabloid media has some use after all

They have booked as well. It has not simply remained at FIR. The guy will be officially asked to appear before police for questioning. Then the evidence will be processed and India will certainly ask KSA to waive his immunity so he can be arrested and prosecution can commence. If KSA asks for the diplomatic immunity to be respected, he will be expelled from India. Nepal can't ask India to close the FIR since they did not issue the FIR (the women did). A country cannot take over the jurisprudence of its citizens on Indian soil....they can only offer consular support and legal advice.

You are talking THEORY, I am talking Practice. SA will certainly bring pressure on Nepal to settle this.

They can. It's an option. But it will be unlikely since the evidence has already been gathered and things are in motion. Nepal would be made to look very weak and abetting miscarriage of justice if they did this. They would also have to really pull out the stops to convince these women to drop the charges given the extent of the proceedings so far...because if they don't nothing stops the women from releasing a media statement highlighting what Nepalese govt suggested they do. Nepalese govt legally cannot force or coerce these women.

That too it was the Nepalese high commission that tipped off the Indian police in the first place. Read the first few sentences in the article.

Public memory is short. Usual procedure is to let the public forget and then settle it behind closed doors. I am not saying that will happen, just what can happen. Nepal govt. will look at the big picture, its one of the poorest countries in the world. That is the way the world works.

You have misread it.

The statement given by the police:

According to Chechi, the two women were hired through a placement agent in Delhi. “They were also taken to Saudi Arabia and returned only last month. They had been held hostage since then,” he said.

“They were first taken to Saudi Arabia. The assault began after they returned… and were kept in captivity at his house,” said Bal Krishan, president of Maiti Nepal India, an NGO that carried out the rescue operation with the help of the Gurgaon Police.

The larger 4 month time period mentioned once at the start probably might refer to the more extensive time period covering such things as the threats etc rather than the assault.

Seizing passport and holding employees hostage is standard practice in Saudi Arabia and all over the Middle East.

I never said they did. Pressing charges and commencing detainment/arrest procedures are two very different things altogether. The charges will be officially sent to the court and filed...but no judge will issue an arrest warrant until they get the all clear from Saudi Arabia in waiving his immunity.

...and that waiver will never come. Which is my point. I am not talking THEORY, but Practice.

It can certainly be a legal solution. However KSA has to be ready and willing for that option. I have already mentioned this before that it is unlikely given the way KSA diplomats are close to the royal family. We will have to wait and see.

No Nation will open the door to future blackmail. There is nothing to see. It just won't happen.

India is an important country, so the diplomat to India will more or less related to the King or the royal Family. You can be certain of that.

Um, the Saudi expats would also all need diplomatic immunity. If they don't they will be tried. Things can be proven in a variety of different ways depending on what evidence is available and the standard DNA testing, any CCTV security footage in the residence hallways, voice and hair samples....you name it. Indian police will have to investigate this thoroughly.

LOL..what DNA testing ? Its unlikely there will be any DNA evidence left. Why would the saudi expatiate wait around to get arrested ? Without any evidence why would Saudi ever consider sending their citizens to stand trial in India ? Its Rubbish.

How can you prove that it was not an orgy by mutual consent ? CCTV can only show presence, not crime.

 

[agamdilawari]

They were showing a video on the news channels showing how much resistance cops faced from wife and daughter of the diplomat and the guards positioned inside the flat. The Nepali girls at last were rescued and Nepalese embassy is in touch with MEA and Gurgaon Police for further action.

 

[terry5]

Pak teen raped, jailed in Saudi Arabia - The Times of India

Sad incident indeed... so is this Saudi man in jail for raping poor Pakistani girl ?

What a dirty dirty disgusting bastard you are googling a ten years old story about rape .
did i say your a bastard bastard .

 

[SrNair]

Victims are Nepali not Indian .And those diplomats would have diplomatic immunity .India would face severe limitations in this case.We cant pressure Saudis.But Nepali Embassy can do something about it.

 

[terry5]

Whats the Sharia punishment for this type of a crime? Anyone who knows?

Execution

 

[Kambojaric]

Unfortunately nothing will happen to this man.

 

[samlove]

They were showing a video on the news channels showing how much resistance cops faced from wife and daughter of the diplomat and the guards positioned inside the flat. The Nepali girls at last were rescued and Nepalese embassy is in touch with MEA and Gurgaon Police for further action.

which channel

 

[SrNair]

i know all this but some action should be taken against them , so foe future this immunity will not be used as jail free card. also if anything happens to indian diplomat then they know about consequences of tht

No dude .
Even victims are not Indian. US cant take serious action against Devyani Khobragade why ?
It is because of diplomatic immunity.
Same will happen here.We cant do anything more than that.

 

[samlove]

No dude .
Even victims are not Indian. US cant take serious action against Devyani Khobragade why ?
It is because of diplomatic immunity.
Same will happen here.We cant do anything more than that.

she was humiliated ,taken in custody in front of his children school , then finger print in police station ,wht else they have done , they followed all protocol of police except file a case in court.