Saudi cleric’s wife shows face on TV, sparks uproar

[al-Hasani]

BS. If you notice in PDF we do authoritatively talk about everything from economy of South Africa to government structure in Antarctica to if swedes should have national health schemes. Your implication sir, that people should actually know what they are talking about is both deeply offensive and against common sense!!

OK. I might have a too "academic" view on that. In my view I do prefer if people actually research what they are talking about or at least have some knowledge. Nonsense statements bound in ignorance cannot be a good thing for any interesting debate.

P.S. I never said anything about it not being allowed. I mean we see such comments on every topic. It's inevitable. Just like we see it in the actual society. People commit mistakes etc.

So lemme get this straight @al-Hasani showed her face on tv and everyone has an issue with it ?

Let the lady do what she likes !

Just because ppeopledo it doesnt mean it is right! I agree people shouldnt jump in blind and "offer advice" on things they have no clue about!


Sorry I cant make much sense about alot of things right now....if it was important please paraphrase if not leave it

Exactly what I meant. It was a advice and my own opinion. I am no authority to say what people should write about on a internet forum. Glad that someone understood what I meant.

 

[Falcon29]

oh damn, this woman is pretty

That's not her. The woman is in video I linked.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

That's not her. The woman is in video I linked.

No I was talking about the woman in the pic....I didn't really bother to read the title, article, people's posts etc.

 

[Dem!god]

Just because people do it doesnt mean it is right! I agree people shouldnt jump in blind and "offer advice" on things they have no clue about!


Sorry I cant make much sense about alot of things right now....if it was important please paraphrase if not leave it

dont worry abt that,
was just pulling ur leg.. nothing important..

 

[FaujHistorian]

Nobody in KSA makes a fuss about headscarfs nor is anybody killing each other for it. I am frankly getting tired of nonsense discussions such as those when there are 1000's of more important matters. Just in KSA alone let alone the entire world.

Pakistan was just hit by one of many cowardly terrorist attacks, 3-4 Arab countries are on fire, people are still dying because of lack of nutrition in South Asia and Africa etc. etc. and here we have such discussions.

There are certain Islamic principals that the majority of Muslims agrees with and if you follow them it has nothing to do with fundamentalism. Now you are becoming fundamental yourself. If people have a problem with Islam they can leave it for all I care. That's their choice.

If you are in doubt about your faith it might be because you have not studied it thoroughly enough. This is a common problem among many modern Muslims and why you have converts who converted 1 week ago joining ISIS without doing any proper research beforehand outside of watching some Youtube clips.

Have a nice day. Got to go for the time being.

This horrible event in Pakistan is closely linked to religious edicts

and so is jihad and hijab

As someone else said

It is intimidation in the name of religion, by the religion's professed believers, for the glory of the religion as they see it

 

[ranjeet]

I don't think talking about human rights in any way "ridicules" KSA.

I meant rubbing it in the faces of people who welcome this change.

 

[Hasbara Buster]

Still eagerly waiting for Operation Enduring Saudi Freedom.... Come on NATO, when will the oh-so-democratic, civilized, champions of peace, human rights and freedom come to the rescue? And where are the sanctions???

 

[Peshwa]

I don't see what the fuss is about...
I would be more offended if she was a complete dog...but she aint half bad..

The only crime committed here is hiding a pretty face behind a veil!

 

[EternalJives]

While i believe forcing someone to wear hijab/niqab should be voiced against, I don't think there should be any issue with someone who willfully wears the clothing. Headscarves and niqab are more of a cultural trait than a religious one in the same vein as Saree is an Indian cultural trait and Shalwar Kameej a Pakistani. Given the geography of the region (Arid and Desert), the tribes which eventually settled there must have needed a way to shield themselves from ubiquitous dust storms which I believe resulted in the head scarves and niqabs we see today.

 

[Zarvan]

It didn't spark uproar it sparked a debate, and the result was that it is now established that covering the face is not a must. More women begun walking outside without face veils now.

It is a must and debate was always there but majority is for Niqab and I am telling you that reaction may get voilent and that would not be good

 

[Zarvan]

Hijab is the tip of fundamentalists' iceberg.

If you don't see it then you are not alone.

It happens as such with tips that happened to be attached on top of icebergs.


p.s. I have traveled to different Saudi regions than even some SAudis.

Let's not make it personal

Yes like world is also filled great loyal students of Abu Juhal like you

 

[haviZsultan]

Constantly in both Iran and Saudi Arabia which have draconian laws, especially for women females have risen up to defy the ruling regime and its excesses. I heard Iranian women had broken the taboo and appeared unveiled in public. This woman's head was still covered and despite this it has caused a bit of a consternation.

There is no reason that a woman who does not want the headscarf should be forced to wear it. In Saudi Arabia such laws are common. For example women can't drive. Sometimes I sympathize with what westerners say.

"You are unwilling to give even citizenship in your countries let alone giving people equal rights. But when you come to our land Britain or USA you are demanding your own laws there as well." Thats what they say and looking at Saudi society which is even named after the house of Saud, I am not happy as many Muslims are not with Saudi Arabia.

Anyway lets hope for the best. I hope both Iran and Saudia get rid of these dark laws like no women at football matches and other ridiculous laws. For Godsake Khadija was a businesswomen herself. Who other than Abdul Wahab told us to be such idiots.

 

[OTTOMAN]

both Iran and Saudi Arabia which have draconian laws

There is a mistake in your sentence... there are no draconian laws in Islamic Republic of Iran.

 

[Zarvan]

Constantly in both Iran and Saudi Arabia which have draconian laws, especially for women females have risen up to defy the ruling regime and its excesses. I heard Iranian women had broken the taboo and appeared unveiled in public. This woman's head was still covered and despite this it has caused a bit of a consternation.

There is no reason that a woman who does not want the headscarf should be forced to wear it. In Saudi Arabia such laws are common. For example women can't drive. Sometimes I sympathize with what westerners say.

"You are unwilling to give even citizenship in your countries let alone giving people equal rights. But when you come to our land Britain or USA you are demanding your own laws there as well." Thats what they say and looking at Saudi society which is even named after the house of Saud, I am not happy as many Muslims are not with Saudi Arabia.

Anyway lets hope for the best. I hope both Iran and Saudia get rid of these dark laws like no women at football matches and other ridiculous laws. For Godsake Khadija was a businesswomen herself. Who other than Abdul Wahab told us to be such idiots.

Before talking about Khadijah know few things first her husband died just an year ago secondly her brother and husband were both alive they used to manage and finally although most Arab women before Islam didn't cover and used to do really bad things she was among few exceptions and finall when ALLAH ordered Hijab for women no women used to come out of house without fully covered except her eyes and hands

 

[haviZsultan]

There is a mistake in your sentence... there are no draconian laws in Islamic Republic of Iran.

What about the blasphemy law and law that prevents women from attending football matches? This isn't personal. Its just about at least admitting our mistakes as a society. 1 Billion muslims are weaker than 7 million Jews. Someone has to rise up and challenge the norms in our mullahcracies or other societies. Accepting a problem is always the first step to solving it.