Saudi Arabia: ‘We support our ally Cyprus against Turkey’s activities in Mediterranean’

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

Then don't drag Pakistan, we are committed to non proliferation.



You and your GCC tribe host more Indian who send much more remittances to India then so called you trying to hurt them with trade deficit. Not interested in your 5000000 billion history.



rest Not worthy of any reply.

Good for you.

There are 1000's of ancient Arab tribes and clans in Arabia (as well as the entire Arab world and Muslim world, and almost every corner of the world nowadays - including in Pakistan) but the facts are as I wrote them. KSA's trade surplus with India is gigantic. We are earning tons of money on India. That will obviously continue. We (nation states) have no conflict with India. China who is the largest trade partner of India, will continue to trade with India as well. No words about China being the largest trade partner of India? Only words for Arabs, while the same Arabs have helped you more than anyone else?

Not worth a reply because it is true? Even an entire word (of Arabic origin) is used to describe them. They dominate the largest city in Pakistan (Karachi) as well. Even your founding father is Indian (Gujarati).

Whatever, this thread is a troll thread based on fake news from the shithole media that is Middle East Monitor. What was said is that KSA is supporting a unified Cyprus like the rest of the world.

But I let the Arabized anti-Arab troll runs loose in this thread as keyboard warriors. That is the only thing that they can do against Arabs.

 

[Max]

Good for you.

There are 1000's of ancient Arab tribes and clans in Arabia (as well as the entire Arab world and Muslim world, and almost every corner of the world nowadays - including in Pakistan) but the fact is as I wrote it. KSA's trade surplus with India is gigantic. We are earning tons of money on India. That will obviously continue. We (nation states) have no conflict with India.

Similarly Pakistan got nothing to do with your tribal barbarianism in ME, don't drag us, don't try to paint Pakistan as proliferater, we are already accused of many things.

Not worth a reply because it is true? Even an entire word (of Arabic origin) is used to describe them. They dominate the largest city in Pakistan (Karachi) as well. Even your founding father is Indian (Gujarati).

No bcoz its irrelevant and dont make any sense, what my post got to do with your blabbering?

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

Not a surprise, there is a big ongoing feud between them for awhile now. And it escalated with the Khashoggi affair.

Anyhow, let's be real, no Muslim country is bastion of Islam and all will look out for interests of their nation state and Islam plays zero role in that. But, the ordinary people should remain empathic to each others.

Muslims can't talk about 'Ummah' until they establish Islam, appoint Caliph and Shura. Establishment of Islam is most important thing, as God told us it is the right path. It comes before politics.

And don't tell me Saudi, Iran, Turkey, or Pakistan are implementing Islam. Saudi Arabia and Iran and Turkey push Islam to suit their national interests. Pakistan isn't really involved in trying to assert itself as Muslim leader so Pakistani's are spared any criticism. But, in Middle East all the powers are using Islam just like they use military, money, or other means to increase their influence. No one is doing anything with honest and sincere approach for the sake of God. Not even close to it.

May Allah give us pious leaders.

Erdogan started the hostilities. As for Khashoggi, Turkey should keep quiet. No country in the world jails as many journalists as them. Their government has killed tons of regime critics throughout the ages. It is like a whore lecturing about marriage.

No nation state is a bastion of any religion as no nation state is operating based on religion. When historians/Muslims/people talk about KSA being the bastion of Islam, they refer to Islamic history which is done accurately as this is a historical and religious fact.

However KSA's society and people have a much higher claim on being "bastions of Islam" than Turkey. Much more than Iran as well. No comparison really. Anyone familiar with all 3 countries, will understand. Every Arab country could say the same thing.

Last statement is true but that has always been the case. Previous Caliphates and Muslim sultanates, kingdoms, emirates, sheikdoms, inmates in Asia, Africa and Europe did the same thing. Power struggles left and right.

As I wrote earlier, if religion and ideology was so important for nation states in the 21st century, KSA and Iran would be the closest regional allies as neighbors and could jointly dominate the entire region if they wanted.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Saudi Arabia: ‘We support our ally Cyprus against Turkey’s activities in Mediterranean’

September 13, 2019 at 12:10 am |

Saudi Foreign Minister Ibrahim bin Abdulaziz Al-Assaf said his country supports the Greek Cypriots, which he described as an ally, against Turkey’s oil and gas exploration activities in the Mediterranean.

This came in statements made by Al-Assaf during a press conference held by his Cypriot counterpart, Nikos Christodoulides. The Saudi Foreign Ministry published parts of the press conference on Twitter, on Thursday.


Saudi Foreign Minister Ibrahim bin Abdulaziz Al-Assaf said his country supports the Greek Cypriots, which he described as an ally, against Turkey’s oil and gas exploration activities in the Mediterranean.

This came in statements made by Al-Assaf during a press conference held by his Cypriot counterpart, Nikos Christodoulides. The Saudi Foreign Ministry published parts of the press conference on Twitter, on Thursday.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1171816460206923776

Al-Assaf, who is currently on a visit to Rome, told reporters: “Yes, we discussed the problem of Cyprus. We support the legitimacy and sovereignty of Cyprus. We also support international resolutions, especially those of the United Nations, and we hope that the parties will solve the problem in a peaceful manner. We will continue to support Cyprus.”

Al-Assaf confirmed that he met President of Cyprus and the speaker of the Parliament, Thursday morning, adding: “I see great interest in the development of relations at all levels.”

The Saudi foreign minister pointed out that he discussed with his Cypriot counterpart several economic opportunities.

Saudi-Turkish tension

Al-Assaf’s visit came amid rising tension between Turkey and Saudi Arabia over several issues, including the assassination of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi, Ankara’s alignment with Doha during the Gulf crisis and Riyadh’s support for Egypt’s 2013 coup.

Last month, a leaked document revealed a plan drawn up by Saudi Arabia and the UAE aimed at weakening the Turkish government, overthrowing President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and igniting internal crises in Turkey.

According to Middle East Eye, the plan aimed to use all possible tools to pressure and weaken Erdogan’s government and keep him busy with domestic issues in the hope that the opposition will overthrow or distract him by evoking repeated crises.

According to reports carried by Cypriot and Saudi media, the two sides, Saudi Arabia and Cyprus, held talks covering bilateral relations and the Cyprus issue.

The same reports added that Al-Assaf expressed his country’s desire to “improve relations with South Cyprus because of its geographical location, and years of long-standing dialogue with the Arab world, in addition to being a member of the European Union.”

Turkish media attacked the Saudi foreign minister for Riyadh’s support for Nicosia’s position against Ankara. AHABER TV described such statement, in a report published on its website, as “shameless.”

The TV channel quoted Al-Assaf saying: “The Saudi Kingdom stands with our ally, the Cypriot President, against Turkey’s illegal activities in the Mediterranean.”

The channel pointed out also that the minister’s statements are in harmony with the European and US position on the issue of gas exploration in the Eastern Mediterranean.

Since 1974, Cyprus has been divided between a Turkish part in the north and a Greek part in the south.

The unilaterally proclaimed Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, which is recognised only by Turkey as a sovereign state, has not won international recognition.

Cyprus has been a member of the European Union and says the north has been under illegal occupation since the Turkish invasion of the island in 1974.

Tensions between the two parts increased as natural gas deposits were discovered in the water zone between Cyprus and Israel.

Turkish Cypriots accused the Cypriot government of acting unilaterally by inviting companies to explore in the region, saying that they want to have a share in the profits of any gas production. But, the Cypriot government rejected the idea.

Turkish Cypriots said that their first choice is to negotiate with the Greek Cypriots on the island’s unification; however, after decades of inaction, such a situation cannot last forever.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/2...-against-turkeys-activities-in-mediterranean/

@Khafee

What is this idiocy ?

Arab Kings acting like ......................................

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

Similarly Pakistan got nothing to do with your tribal barbarianism in ME, don't drag us, don't try to paint Pakistan as proliferater, we are already accused of many things.



No bcoz its irrelevant and dont make any sense, what my post got to do with your blabbering?

What tribal barbarianism? There are no tribal wars in the Arab world or MENA, lol. Last time I checked Pakistan is made up by tribes and clans as well. The only exception that does not have tribes are the lot originally from India, ironically.

Not sure what you are blabbering about? Proliferator?

Not really, as you started blabbering about Indians in the GCC, which are irrelevant as well when I was talking about facts and the tons of help that Arabs have given you and continue to do it at your lowest. Whether not many months ago or when the entire world sanctioned you due to nuclear tests. Seems like some of your people have a short memory.

 

[Falcon29]

Erdogan started the hostilities. As for Khashoggi, Turkey should keep quiet. No country in the world jails as many journalists as them. Their government has killed tons of regime critics throughout the ages. It is like a whore lecturing about marriage.

No nation state is a bastion of any religion as no nation state is operating based on religion. When historians/Muslims/people talk about KSA being the bastion of Islam, they refer to Islamic history which is done accurately as this is a historical and religious fact.

However KSA's society and people have a much higher claim on being "bastions of Islam" then Turkey. Much more than Iran as well. No comparison really. Anyone familiar with all 3 countries, will understand. Every Arab country could say the same thing.

Last statement is true but that has always been the case. Previous Caliphates and Muslim sultanates, kingdoms, emirates, sheikdoms, inmates in Asia, Africa and Europe did the same thing. Power struggles left and right.

As I wrote earlier, if religion and ideology was so important for nation states in the 21st century, KSA and Iran would be the closest regional allies as neighbors and could jointly dominate the entire region if they wanted.

Yes I'm aware the whole thing started around Morsi coup era. Just stating the obvious , however. And historically Saudi's and Turks have some tensions as well.

I don't believe in bastion of Islam being restricted to a country, as you know I'm in favor of Islamic rule and that's what I'm trying to get across to fellow Muslims. That nation states are going to be like any modern nations, democratic, republic, or whatever. So those who advocate for 'Ummah' should support Islamic rule rather than restrict Islam to some cooperation between Muslim nation states.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

Yes I'm aware the whole thing started around Morsi coup era. Just stating the obvious , however. And historically Saudi's and Turks have some tensions as well.

I don't believe in bastion of Islam being restricted to a country, as you know I'm in favor of Islamic rule and that's what I'm trying to get across to fellow Muslims. That nation states are going to be like any modern nations, democratic, republic, or whatever. So those who advocate for 'Ummah' should support Islamic rule rather than restrict Islam to some cooperation between Muslim nation states.

It started much earlier. Erdogan, the populist, was from day one trying to undermine all regional Arab powers. Whether Iraq, Syria, Egypt or KSA. Jointly with their tiny lapdog (Qatar as in regime not people). Continues to this day.

Saudi Arabians have never had any tensions with Anatolians. There were a few conflicts between the initial House of Saud sultanates and emirates 250-200 years ago (back then what is modern-day KSA was ruled by a lot of indigenous dynasties) but that was between Albanian-ruled Egypt. No Egyptians took part, those were foreign implants in Egypt that continued to dominate Egypt until the monarchy was abolished 65+ years ago. Mainly Albanians and Circassians. The Arab revolt had nothing to do with Anatolians either. Most of the "Ottoman" soldiers were Arab.

I don't believe in a modern-day bastion of Islam either, I just referred to the historical and religious ground realities. Bastion of Islam is Hijaz, after that all other regions of Arabia and after that the Arab world. From a historical and religious aspect at least.

I would like to support Islamic rule but I don't see it happening with the current lot in 2019. I think it would be more realistic for Arabs to unite under an Islamic banner and I would not have anything against that. If other Muslims will join in, they are welcome, if not, no big deal for me. Let everyone answer for their own sins.

 

[Max]

What tribal barbarianism? There are no tribal wars in the Arab world or MENA, lol. Last time I checked Pakistan is made up by tribes and clans as well. The only exception that does not have tribes are the lot originally from India, ironically.

Whatever, just sort that mess yourself.

Not really, as you started blabbering about Indians in the GCC, which are irrelevant as well when I was talking about facts and the tons of help that Arabs have given you and continue to do it at your lowest. Whether not many months ago or when the entire world sanctioned you due to nuclear tests. Seems like some of your people have a short memory.

when you was blabbering about how Pakistan cant run without your country and how you own Pakistan and its weapons only then i told you that Indian does more then us, go take em over instead of Pakistan. stop dragging us.

Pakistan also supported you diplomatically, militarily when you were at your lowest, but things are changing fast, you shouldn't read too much into it. dont pretend you own Pakistan or Pakistan owes you anything.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Why would Pakistan support anyone this issue has nothing to do with Pakistan don't drag Pakistan everywhere

Sir, we will die for Kashmir and sacrifice all that we have for them.

We are not worried about hurting sentiments of anyone to stand up for them.

Those who do not stand with us on Kashmir are of no value to us.

May Allah swt bless Turkey and China for doing all they can.

 

[Kamil_baku]

Its shameful too that none of the Turkic countries recognise Turkish Cyprus.

If Turkey did not intervene cyprus was going to be Sebrenica for Turkish Cypriots. I have lots of Turkish cypriot friends I cannot imagine a lot of them would not be alive today if the Greeks got it their way in Cyprus.

Only thing we would be looking at today is mass graves of Turkish cypriots but man the Turkish intervention was a blessing you have pictures and videos of Turkish cypriots celebrating and greeting Turkish soldiers as liberators.

there is reason why Azerbaijan cannot recognize it... because others could recognize Nagorno Karabagh too.

 

[Max]

You lot don't understand simple ground realities. It could be so easy for Arabs to ally with India, a much more powerful country than Pakistan on every front. The gap will only grow in the future as well. However we did not despite that being better for the national interests of our states. Instead we (our unelected rulers) have spent billions upon billions on a black pit (Pakistan's economy) and supported you always at your lowest point. And the thank for all that is anti-Arab sentiments 24/7.

What more you want with India? you King already have special relationship with India, Modi owns almost all highest awards of GCC, trade ties and all.. what more your kind want? do you want bases in India to attack Pakistan? Go for it.

you exaggerate things too much as i said the help was two sided, they maybe non elected but they spend money for their throne not bcoz of charity.

 

[Nein]

Ottoman soldiers were mostly Turks you arabs sure are garbage when it comes to history.

Turks were considered the gold mines of soldiers in the empire because non turks could not be trusted by the way devshirme was in many aspects was done to make christians not rebel by taking their sons and make them work for the Empire.

To all ignorant Arabs none of you participated in the Ottoman Empires most pivotal battles.

Ww1 most of you either deserted or revolted. So make a choice.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

Whatever, just sort that mess yourself.



when you was blabbering about how Pakistan cant run without your country and how you own Pakistan and its weapons only then i told you that Indian does more then us, go take em over instead of Pakistan. stop dragging us.

Pakistan also supported you diplomatically, militarily when you were at your lowest, but things are changing fast, you shouldn't read too much into it. dont pretend you own Pakistan or Pakistan owes you anything.

There is no mess. KSA is doing more than fine to say the least by every ranking available and the country will only improve each day, week, month and year.

I told the truth.

When did that happen? Please educate me.

Last time I checked it is not Arabs here on PDF (the few that remain) that are blabbering about Pakistanis 24/7 and writing nonsense about Pakistan and Pakistans. It is the other way around from a few Arabized and ungrateful anti-Arab trolls.

You lot don't understand simple ground realities. It could be so easy for Arabs to ally with India, a much more powerful country than Pakistan on every front. The gap will only grow in the future as well. A country that already has more Muslim in it than there are Pakistanis in the world. However we did not despite that being better for the national interests of our states. Instead we (our unelected rulers) have spent billions upon billions on a black pit (Pakistan's economy) and supported you always at your lowest point. And the thank for all that is anti-Arab sentiments 24/7.

Maybe this is debilitate policy to alienate 20+ Arab countries, 500+ million Arabs (in 2050 will reach almost 1 billion) and an landmass the size of Russia and the richest landmass in the world in terms of natural resources and minerals and the home of your religious holy sites (Makkah, Madinah, Al-Quds, Karbala, Najaf).

Suicidal policy as the current monarchies and dictatorships are not going to rule forever. One day the Arab people will rule and we Arabs have a very, very good memory and can hold grudges for decades. A bit like the camel. If you hurt a camel, he will remember your face 30+ years later and seek revenge.

I am 100% in favor of having very close, brotherly and cordial ties with Pakistan and Pakistan people but if you anti-Arab lot are representatives of Pakistanis, we might rethink our views. It cannot be any different when a brother is throwing poison at you despite all what you did for him, that you did not have to do and which were all things against your national interests, as if we had betted on India, we would have gained much more. That is a factual statement.

 

[Max]

Maybe this is debilitate policy to alienate 20+ Arab countries, 500+ million Arabs (in 2050 will reach almost 1 billion) and an landmass the size of Russia and the richest landmass in the world in terms of natural resources and minerals and the home of your religious holy sites (Makkah, Madinah, Al-Quds, Karbala, Najaf).

Suicidal policy as the current monarchies and dictatorships are not going to rule forever. One day the Arab people will rule and we Arabs have a very, very good memory and can hold grudges for decades. A bit like the camel. If you hurt a camel, he will remember your face 30+ years later and seek revenge.

I am 100% in favor of having very close, brotherly and cordial ties with Pakistan and Pakistan people but if you anti-Arab lot are representatives of Pakistanis, we might rethink our views. It cannot be any different when a brother is throwing poison at you despite all what you did for him, that you did not have to do and which were all things against your national interests, as if we had betted on India, we would have gained much more. That is a factual statement.

More blabbering. I am not hostile, i only said sort your mess yourself, don't drag Pakistan for point scoring with Turks and Iran, you dont own anything, depend on your 500 billion Arabs alone.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

What more you want with India? you King already have special relationship with India, Modi owns almost all highest awards of GCC, trade ties and all.. what more your kind want? do you want bases in India to attack Pakistan? Go for it.

you exaggerate things too much as i said the help was two sided, they maybe non elected but they spend money for their throne not bcoz of charity.

I don't care about India. I care about KSA and the Arab world and our interests. Meaning I wish the best for fellow Arabs, and in 2019, economy is absolutely crucial to help fund every area of the society and help create development, growth etc. India is an economic goldmine for KSA and the GCC so why should I have anything against them? Arabs and Indians are not at conflict. The first mosques outside of the Arab world were built by Arabs in Western and Southern India due to ancient trade relations (all of South Asia, including modern-day Pakistan) and Arabs dominating the Arabian Sea/Indian Ocean trade.
Many Arab dynasties ruled areas of South Asia. Arab civilization has influenced South Asia a lot. To this day a whole ethnic group in Sri Lanka identify as Arabs (Sri Lankan Moors). Most languages spoken by South Asian Muslims have been heavily influenced by Arabic. The script as well. Architecture and cuisine. Influences the other way around too. Most Indians in the GCC are Muslim too, many from Kerala.

However you clearly did not understand what I meant. If Arab countries were just solely looking at business, their own interests, Pakistan would long ago have been completely abandoned in favor of India. Since the same India is home to more Muslims than Pakistanis in the world so even the religious card could easily be played.

My main point is that no people other than Arabs have helped you as much throughout your history and the thanks for that is anti-Arab sentiments 24/7 by some ignorant and ungrateful lot. So obviously those lot need to smell the coffee and I will help them with that. I know that this is not representative of Pakistanis as most Pakistanis like Arabs. Vice versa too. Hence why my posts are aimed at the anti-Arab lot.

More blabbering. I am not hostile, i only said sort your mess yourself, don't drag Pakistan for point scoring with Turks and Iran, you dont own anything, depend on your 500 billion Arabs alone.

Not blabbering. Facts. You seem rather hostile. I already told you that there is no mess and KSA, let alone the entire Arab world, does not need Pakistan or anyone for point scoring against small countries like Turkey and Iran (in comparison to the Arab world). Small Iraq was enough to keep all of Iran at bay. Makes zero sense.

Nor will there be any wars. Rulers from those countries are not such stupid people and want to rule a bit more.