Saudi Arabia/GCC countries still reliable allies? Pakistani government's terrible diplomacy at work.

[mike2000 is back]

Yeah I heard Saudi Arabia withdrew. I am quite disappointed with them.

Guess you are right, Pakistan's only friends are China and Turkey.

but the article says ONLY TURKEY STOOD BY PAKISTAN UNTIL THE VERY END.

 

[Kambojaric]

Yep said it one bro. It's time for people to look at things differently. I can just imagine the look on the Pakistani delegation's face when the GCC pulled out. It reminds me of glass breaking....

There is absolutely no hope for our foreign policy. I mean we have former generals running around in international media proudly stating they used terrorist groups to achieve their national interest (

). Yes all countries use dodgy groups for their own interests but who on bloody earth goes around accepting this. All country's have shi" on them (US = contras, India = LTTE etc), but how stuck up do you have to be to throw your country's name around in the dirt on international media so you can self-congratulate yourself on an awesome job well done.
After that the bloody nincompoops in the foreign ministry have to clear up the mess whilst our army supporting masses declare anyone who speaks against the general a traitor to the nation! And by nincompoops, I mean the Khwaja Asif dude who self-congragulated himself in a tweet about his awesome foreign policy work, whilst the FATF session was still in its primary stage, pissing off the Americans even more in the process. The economy is bleeding but "CPEC/China will save us!" The godless athiests whose ideology we so despise will be our get out of jail card. Oh the irony!

*Rant over

 

[waz]

Yeah the training part I don't agree too but if the Arabs pay , heck why not earn money? But if our soldiers are being sent on an ' ummah ' role without being paid then might as well send them to Kashmir.
Pakistan needs south Muslim nations , turkey central Asian states to invest and co develop

Yep time to take a giant step back from them. Leave them to it. There are avenues to explore the world over.

 

[Dalit]

Clamp down on these groups and show the evidence to the world and no one will say a thing. I'm afraid the days of using useful idiots are long gone. The US has it's own issues to deal with and will detract after a while. It's the nature of the game bro and I've seen it played out for 26 years i.e. when I gained an understanding of what politics was.

Clamping down on these groups is just an excuse. The Americans want to know the nuclear secrets. They also want a complete halt in Pakistan China cooperation. This is absolutely no secret. The Yanks give zero importance to Afghanistan. The Americans don't need Pakistani support to defeat Haqqani or other groups.

 

[waz]

but the article says ONLY TURKEY STOOD BY PAKISTAN UNTIL THE VERY END.

The evidence states the only reason China gave up was the required 3 for a block was lost. But anyway.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Saudis are widely known as Al Jews or otherwise the backstabbers.do not trust them.they are a disease.pakistan should stop slavery of those stupid Kings.

One of the things they have in common is that they both think they are the chosen privileged people of god.

 

[MultaniGuy]

To be fair Saudi Arabia has been good to Pakistan at certain times.

But when Saudi Arabia ditched us at this important moment it is very disappointing.

Anyways Pakistan first!

 

[waz]

To be fair Saudi Arabia has been good to Pakistan at certain times.

But when Saudi Arabia ditched us at this important moment it is very disappointing.

Anyways Pakistan first!

Should have always been like this.

 

[mike2000 is back]

The evidence states the only reason China gave up was the required 3 for a block was lost. But anyway.

LOL Even more reason why they didn't have to give up. At then end of the day ONLY Turkey stood by Pakistan until the end. Facts.

 

[Ocean]

If pakistan just got one countrys support then why pakistan wants immediately put back into grey list? Why delay uptil June?
And miftah isnt wrong when he said it wont impact the countrys businesses as he said it didnt back then in 2012-2015

Plus he also said after first round of discussions were finalized and pakistan got the p support , then for the first time ever Fatf committee or administartion went against its protocol and reopened pakistans case next day just to push it into the list.

For anyone interested they could watch his interview from 26:00 to 38:00

Also he said pakistan had banned jud and all affiliated orgs and had done everything that was required to satisfy fatf requirements that fatf committee too had no objections left to raise. So he said we had done everything that had to be done. He also got support from european diplomats and said the diplomats told him its usa who is unfairly pushing for pakistans inclusion into the list.

Even if pakistan cuts juds members heads usa will still put pakistan in some list. Just hand over your nuclear warheads to usa, let them bring their forces inside paksitan and allow it to turn paksitan into syria everything will become cool for usa.

 

[BATMAN]

When Pakistan's govt. is hijacked by middleast haters, what else to expect.
We all have seen elements trying to build confrontation of Pakistan with Arabs, which basically has roots in Indian cold start.
Pakistan refused to join anti terrorism alliance of 41 countries lead by Saudi Arabia, due to sectarian black mail.
There was a time, when even retired soldiers of Pakistan were not allowed to takeup private jobs anywhere in middleast. Pakistan's security co-operation with middleast dropped to record low.
Later General Raheel Sharif's NoC was heldup by govt.
Now senate chairman is jumping up and down, for sending troops to Saudi Arabia.
Bloody Zardari party is asking guarantee from army, that good terrorists shall not be harmed....
These sectarian bastards in govt. are only hurting Pakistan.

Anyways Pakistan first!

Actions speaks louder than words.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Well as expected what went on at the FATF meeting has finally come out. The three votes of Turkey, China and GCC were negated. After the Saudi led contingent voted, the American delegation simply walked over and spoke to them, and in the next round they withdrew their objection. In return I believe they are being made a full member and there are some other perks.
I remember reading the deployment of 1,000 men in Saudi and how many cheered it, but what happened here. It seems the Saudis/GCC dropped Pakistan into it without much hesitation. The Chinese gave up as now it was 2/3 and the Turks voted with determination.


On another note when I read things like this I honestly lose a great deal of hope;

Pakistan’s de facto finance minister, Miftah Ismail, has brushed off concerns that economic growth will suffer because of the country’s re-inclusion on a terrorist financing watch list, and lashed out against the United States for seeking to “embarrass” his nation.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-terror-financing-list-minister-idUSKCN1GA13I

He believes growth will not suffer.....

I doubt China and GCC/KSA have abandoned Pak once and for all. What if this opportunity is used to further strengthen their positions(China just became Vice President or something if I remember correctly from another thread) in FATF so that they can protect Pak better next time?

 

[Verve]

Pakistan's name is not mentioned anywhere in any official release yet here we are discussing what some newspapers have published to be gospel!

What vote? Where is the official press release of such a vote? Saudis can't vote, GCC can't vote ... so HTF did they vote then?

Yeah, let's believe the mainstream media blindly, shall we now? Let's be part of the face saving propaganda campaign of US (& her new bitch India).

run a google search on FATF vice president and you only get Pakistani and Indian media sources of 'India congratulates China' crap ...

FATF website has absolutely no information on the new vice presidency to China .... only in July the new president and VP are due to take over, and nowhere on the site it says that a new president and VP has been appointed for 2018-2019.

 

[Ocean]

Pakistan's name is not mentioned anywhere in any official release yet here we are discussing what some newspapers have published to be gospel!

What vote? Where is the official press release of such a vote? Saudis can't vote, GCC can't vote ... so HTF did they vote then?

Yeah, let's believe the mainstream media blindly, shall we now? Let's be part of the face saving propaganda campaign of US (& her new bitch India).

run a google search on FATF vice president and you only get Pakistani and Indian media sources of 'India congratulates China' crap ...

FATF website has absolutely no information on the new vice presidency to China .... only in July the new president and VP are due to take over, and nowhere on the site it says that a new president and VP has been appointed.

Miftah ismail was sent to fatf to represent pakistan , he is the financial advisor of prime minister. Noon leagues loyal, basically he was called on kamran khan of duniya tvs show where he said these things which again are too blurry and then media houses picked them up and before everyone else it was dawn news that used his interview to publish a viewpoint article flogging pakistan as they always love to do whilst carrying out Bharat mahan and aman ki asha campaign as always on the side.

Yeah jo details kahi ja rahi hain kay bahir ayi hain yeh miftah ismail ka kamran khan ko interview hai from everyone is writing on pakistan.

 

[AbuzarIlyas]

Pakistan have only one brother and that is Turkey.

Bir millet iki devlet!