Saudi Arabia changes Ottoman ‘Empire’ to ‘occupation’ in school textbooks

[B.K.N]

But it did not originate in Pakistan, Bangladesh, Turkey, Nigeria or Indonesia. So why non-Arabs must accept an Arab ruler?

No one is asking you to accept Arab rulers you have your Hasina Wajid why would you need any other ruler

 

[Bengal71]

No one is asking you to accept Arab rulers you have your Hasina Wajid why would you need any other ruler

Yeah, you accept Arab ruler? The other member was suggesting the same.

 

[M.AsfandYar]

I though I will never read such vision on this forum...
Many Muslims nowadays got one Religion... Nationalism... A racist/Self Centric Ideology... that put themselves and their own future above everything else... good or bad...

Nationalism is the Biggest Enemy of Islam... and yet... they took it as their savior... That's what you get when you fall in a Desire Driven society... and take The Dunya as your God...

A poem by Iqbal "Iss Dour main" Described this all these decades ago
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[B.K.N]

Yeah, you accept Arab ruler? The other member was suggesting the same.

Ruler of Pakistan is Imran Khan and we love him but I don't have any problem in accepting an Arab ruler we aren't racist like Bangladeshis

 

[M.AsfandYar]

belongs to every Muslim

To everyone, not just muslims.

 

[Bengal71]

Ruler of Pakistan is Imran Khan and we love him but I don't have any problem in accepting an Arab ruler we aren't racist like Bangladeshis

More like salve mentality to the Arabs, don't divert.

 

[B.K.N]

More like salve mentality to the Arabs, don't divert.

We don't want unification of Muslim countries we are happy where we are
Pakistanis just want to strengthen Pakistan muslims around the world are not our problem and our leader is Imran Khan
And Saudis can do whatever they want in their own country

 

[Bengal71]

We don't want unification of Muslim countries we are happy where we are
Pakistanis just want to strengthen Pakistan muslims around the world are not our problem and our leader is Imran Khan
And Saudis can do whatever they want in their own country

Perfect, but the other member who is also a Pakistani has a different opinion it seems.

My question was, why must the ruler be Arab for the sake of unity of Muslims? Why can't Muslims unite with a non-Arab ruler?

 

[B.K.N]

but the other member who is also a Pakistani has a different opinion it seems.

You shouldn't have any problem with the opinion of Pakistani member
If Arabia ruler is bad why should we accept an Iranian Bangladeshi Turk or Nigerian for us all of them are foreingners
But Islam originated from Arabia that's why we don't have any problem with an Arab ruler

 

[Bengal71]

You shouldn't have any problem with the opinion of Pakistani member
If Arabia ruler is bad why should we accept an Iranian Bangladeshi Turk or Nigerian for us all of them are foreingners
But Islam originated from Arabia that's why we don't have any problem with an Arab ruler

No ruler can be good or bad just by the virtue of their ethnicity. A ruler from any ethnicity can be good or bad.

Islam originated from Arabia is not a good argument for all Muslims to accept an Arab ruler. On the one had the Pakistani member condemns nationalism among Muslims, on the other hand he advocates an Arab ruler over Muslims which is nothing but brainwashing by the Arabs to non-Arabs to accept Arab nationalism and supremacy. The narrative needs to be challenged, the Arab ruler narrative which is also supported by Shariah is concocted by the ulama to uphold Arab supremacy.

 

[B.K.N]

The narrative needs to be challenged,

Don't worry Arabs don't want to rule you they are busy in their own countries
Shaikh Hasina Wajid is going to rule your country all her life and it's said she is pupet of India
India = rss

 

[Bengal71]

Don't worry Arabs don't want to rule you they are busy in their own countries
Shaikh Hasina Wajid is going to rule your country all her life and it's said she is pupet of India
India = rss

Who is talking about Arabs wanting to rule us or anybody else? Who is talking about who is whose puppet?

Not capable of intellectual thinking to reply on the topic? Don't engage then, engage with sh1t posters.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

The question was why Muslims of non-Arab background will accept an Arab ruler? Why must an Arab be the ruler of all Muslims.

That is why a man who distances himself from nationalism and racism will lead the new muslim empire. No turk, persian, Arab, or pakistani or khorasani will lead muslim umma and demolish borders. Wait for a man who holds these ideals. The ideals iv learnt all my life and are rooted in a true student of islam. And a pure human being.

You believe Islam originated from Iran?

Islam orginated from Allah in heavens ( Multiverse) and was brought to human beings by angels to first human messenger Adam PBUH.
Thats why Mohammad (peace he upon him) is last or final messenger not the first and only.

I agree with you, except in two cases.

Pakistani nationalism is based on Islam and Muslim heritage. It is the only nation founded on Islam and the Two Nation Theory comes straight from the Quran.

Turkish nationalism (besides the extreme form) was primarily based upon Muslim conquest of Anatolia and Eastern Europe, hence is inclusive in nature.

No my brother. Islam. Has no room for racism or nationalism. When you enter islam you are one nation, turks,pakistaniz , indians , Americans , Arabs , Chinese , black, white, brown, red whatever when you become muslim . you are just a muslim nothing more nothing less.

Nationalism is the death of islam.

 

[Bengal71]

That is why a man who distances himself from nationalism and racism will lead the new muslim empire. No turk, persian, Arab, or pakistani or khorasani will lead muslim umma and demolish borders. Wait for a man who holds these ideals. The ideals iv learnt all my life and are rooted in a true student of islam. And a pure human being.

I am fine with a Muslim ruling the whole Islamic world with equality and fairness. Don't accept the Sharii' rhetoric that the Arabs must be the rulers, won't accept such a thing. If such an unity is on the cards, all Muslims regardless of race/ethnicity must get an equal chance to be the ruler.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

I am fine with a Muslim ruling the whole Islamic world with equality and fairness. Don't accept the Sharii' rhetoric that the Arabs must be the rulers, won't accept such a thing. If such an unity is on the cards, all Muslims regardless of race/ethnicity must get an equal chance to be the ruler.

Well your last prophet was an Arab. So you would have not accepted him as a ruler i guess.

The 2nd last one was a jew. And his own people didnt accept him as a leader.

Peace be upon them all.

Think above Racism. An intellectual can rise from any part of the world.

Jews didn't and don't accept Mohammad as final messenger because he Mohammad PBUH isn't a jew but rather a cousin of jews.

Allah made a promise to Abraham he chose a different line or dna pool for last messiah and jews didn't accept him.


The most hated form of disobedience by Allah is racism. Even the highest caliber angel said im made of fire and adam made of clay i will not bow to him he is inferior to me.


You see thing about knowledge and intelectual intelligence is , its given to anyone of Creator's choosing.

Are you telling me that lets say tomorrow you realize there is a call for all muslims to unite and lets say a person X is accepted as a leader by 90% of muslim populations accross the world. But since he is from lets say Syria or Jordan an Arab or may be Palestinian or saudi you will regect 90% muslim unity and say booo he is an Arab duck him. Im out of here.... ?

Look at the world from bird's eye view or eyes of the sky.. Puny human nationalism or racism is destroying not only muslim world but humanity in general.

I strongly disagree with ur opinion. But you have full right to choose ur life and decisions as u see fit. We are free men till we are called in front of Allah to answer for our decisions and actions.