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Well. We agree to disagree about the China angle. And yet your post overall suggests my understanding of the strategic environment. My understanding is that Russia's decades old 'strategic ambiguity' is gone now and it is firmly in the Chinese camp. My understanding is that anything happening in Europe or the Middle East or anywhere except the Pacific region which ties the Western resources is to China's advantage. China wouldn't necessarily want this conflict but now that it has started China knows where its interest lie and Chinese members here would confirm that. There are really such things as the Zero Sum Gains!

You have surprisingly played up Ukraine as an ally of China. Ukraine is peanuts for China compared with Russia! Heck, Ukraine is peanuts for even Pakistan compared to the advantages gained by China and Russia. Maybe Ukraine is just a bag of peanuts ;)

And in another post, you brought up nukes as a reason China would stop Russia. What an odd thing to say??!!! Russia is not going to use nukes. It can conventionally flatten and totally destroy Ukraine IF and WHEN Putin is really cornered. The nukes are for the West to be aware of the ultimate costs and to back off. A blackmail to let the West be mindful of where things could end up but as of now a very far fetched idea.

What you present here is the corundum of this whole spectacle. A war on the eastern front of NATO is the least thing Europe needs right now. Heck its even more a headache for America. Biden has been a mere reactive figurehead. If there is a long-term mastermind strategy behind deeper US-involvement in Europe, it would be be a interesting reading (sincerely).

Russia may loose this war but thats nothing because Russia will lick its wounds and be even more determined to have its revenge. Not that the West should be or is afraid of that, but no doubt it will distract and divert resources from more important theaters.

I hear suggestions here that increased European defence budget will be enough to evaporate Russian millitary posture. Which may or may not be reality, as we have to wait 10 years to see the results. But this still dosent adress the real problem, because America still would be looked up to for overall leadership of NATO. US may delegate some responsibilities to major powers like Germany France and UK, but is that really a ideal situation, from purely political standpoint?
Is it realistic? What is NATO going to look like if America is forced to reorient its attention and resources to the Indo-Pacific theater?
 
Are you guys still considering that this will be a quick Russian victory? I think Russia will prevail with time but time is what they’re lacking.
If they capture Kyiv in day 2 like they were set out to be, then it was a quick Russian Victory. It's day 5 already, and we are still seeing Ukrainian jet in the sky.....
 
Can you post link again? It won't work. I'd like to read it.
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Вот уже четвёртый день продолжается наша специальная операция на Украине. Но мне непонятно, почему мы продолжаем нянчиться с бандеровцами? Ведь с первого дня очевидно, что националисты другого языка, кроме силы, не настроены понимать.

Харьков с Киевом от бандеровцев не очистить на одних "Тиграх" "Уралах" и УАЗиках. Они там вооружены до зубов новым оружием, амуницией, тяжелой техникой последнего поколения, а мы с ними все еще возимся в надежде на благоразумие украинских властей и руководства вооруженных сил.

Если "майданутые" сами не жалеют и не берегут собственный народ, то почему мы должны подставлять своих парней?! Настало время принимать конкретное решение и начать крупномасштабную операцию по всем направлениям и территории Украины. Я сам лично не раз разрабатывал тактику и стратегию против террористов, участвовал в боях. В моем понимании выбранная тактика на Украине слишком медлительная. Она длится долго и, на мой взгляд, не эффективна.

Надо уже освобождать города и населённые пункты от бандеровцев, "Азова" и других нацистов. Полная координация действий военных, грамотная расстановка сил и решительный штурм. Все! Больше ничего не нужно.

Они восемь лет убивали свой народ, чтобы удержать власть. Россия встала на защиту угнетенных людей и в итоге против нас приняты всевозможные санкции. Европа, Запад сделали все мыслимое и немыслимое, чтобы навредить России. Так зачем нам сейчас останавливаться? Надо закончить начатое и без оглядки идти только вперед. Будь что будет. На войне и убивают, и разрушают. Без этого никак, к сожалению. Но если украинский народ и вооруженные силы не хотят с нами вести диалог, отмахиваются от переговоров и не намерены принимать меры в отношении нацистов и шайтанов, то мы обязаны закончить начатое и сделать это оперативно.

Нам не нужны потери. Каждая жизнь нашего человека для нас важнее всего. И раз они дважды отказались от переговоров, то нам остаётся только менять тактику. Это будет убедительнее для них.

Я прошу руководство страны, Верховного Главнокомандующего Вооруженными силами России Владимира Путина дать всем спецподразделениям соответствующий приказ, чтобы они смогли закончить с нацистами и, конечно, с террористами, которые убивали в Чеченской Республике наших женщин, стариков, детей.

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‎Our special operation in Ukraine has been going on for the fourth day. But I don't understand why we continue to babysit the Banderaites? After all, from the first day it is obvious that nationalists of a language other than strength are not in the mood to understand.‎

‎Kharkiv and Kiev cannot be cleared of Banderites on the "Tigers" "Urals" and UAZiks alone. They are armed to the teeth with new weapons, ammunition, heavy equipment of the latest generation, and we are still messing with them in the hope of the prudence of the Ukrainian authorities and the leadership of the armed forces.‎

‎If the "Maidanuts" themselves do not regret and do not take care of their own people, then why should we frame our guys?! It is time to make a concrete decision and launch a large-scale operation in all directions and territory of Ukraine. I personally have repeatedly developed tactics and strategies against terrorists, participated in battles. In my understanding, the chosen tactics in Ukraine are too slow. It lasts a long time and, in my opinion, is not effective.‎

‎It is necessary to liberate cities and towns from the Banderaites, Azov and other Nazis. Full coordination of military actions, competent alignment of forces and a decisive assault. All! You don't need anything else.‎

‎They killed their people for eight years to hold on to power. Russia stood up for the oppressed people and as a result, all sorts of sanctions were taken against us. Europe and the West have done everything imaginable and unthinkable to harm Russia. So why should we stop now? It is necessary to finish what we started and go only forward without looking back. Whatever happens. In war, they both kill and destroy. Unfortunately, there is no way without it. But if the Ukrainian people and armed forces do not want to conduct a dialogue with us, dismiss negotiations and do not intend to take measures against the Nazis and Satanists, then we must finish what we started and do it promptly.‎

‎We don't need losses. Every life of our person is most important to us. And since they twice refused to negotiate, then we can only change tactics. It will be more convincing for them.‎

‎I ask the country's leadership, Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Armed Forces Vladimir Putin, to give all special forces an appropriate order so that they can finish with the Nazis and, of course, with the terrorists who killed our women, old people and children in the Chechen Republic.‎


Original Source: Source: https://****/RKadyrov_95/1265
 
What you present here is the corundum of this whole spectacle. A war on the eastern front of NATO is the least thing Europe needs right now. Heck its even more a headache for America. Biden has been a mere reactive figurehead. If there is a long-term mastermind strategy behind deeper US-involvement in Europe, it would be be a interesting reading (sincerely).

Russia may loose this war but thats nothing because Russia will lick its wounds and be even more determined to have its revenge. Not that the West should be or is afraid of that, but no doubt it will distract and divert resources from more important theaters.

I hear suggestions here that increased European defence budget will be enough to evaporate Russian millitary posture. Which may or may not be reality, as we have to wait 10 years to see the results. But this still dosent adress the real problem, because America still would be looked up to for overall leadership of NATO. US may delegate some responsibilities to major powers like Germany France and UK, but is that really a ideal situation, from purely political standpoint?
Is it realistic? What is NATO going to look like if America is forced to reorient its attention and resources to the Indo-Pacific theater?
Seems like America would ask for something in return. Probably European assistance in Asia in exchange for more resources put into Europe.
 
Freedom fighter ? :rofl: An Al Qaeda or "Muslim" Brotherhood criminal calls himself a freedom fighter ? And it no surprise that Western mainstream media will celebrate AQ and MB criminals.



Yes I will, thank you.

Typical Brainwashed Indian racist post
 
This does not brew right with the Chinese perspective though.

Chinese perspective is that they do not engage in other nation affair, unless China stance is for Ukraine not to be a sovereignty, this is going to be tough on China isolationist view. The Problem is, Ukraine is (or was or whatever) Chinese main Strategic partner with their help on Chinese Carrier and Fighter plane design. Would they betray Ukraine like this for a no-gain posture with Russia?

China is smart not to fully support Russia on this.

I don't know what Xi himself was thinking, but Beijing international affairs people would only advise the central commitee to support Russians if they will win, and they don't.

I see this large divergence in between what Xi himself says, and what central committee's says for the first time in many years.

We gain literally nothing from this, unless Putin wins, and if he makes himself useful. On other side, if he loses, he will have to crawl into Zhongnanhai for cash again. And that will be very good. We can demand our outer northeast back.
 
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The story is unfolding, the war is not going in favor of Russia. Putting Nuke force on alert is not good,
i am afraid battlefield tactical nukes might come into play here
Tactical nukes will only isolate Russia more and elicit a NATO response if radiation travels to their countries…
 
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