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lol) is one of the reasons))
reason less than any strong reason indeed.
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lol) is one of the reasons))
Enough with this BS, don't present yourself as total ignorant from the facts. You are only dramatizing when reality far away from you are thinking so it's up to you continue to live in illusions.
So, long story short, there is no specific charge or evidence against anyone detained.
The FSB has given no reason and will "check for extremist content".
Uh huh.
As long as they utter the magic words "national security", "terrorism", or "Islamist", they can round up pretty much anyone they want. Of course, these people are Muslims, so no one's going to lose sleep over it.
The authorities in the West also battle terrorism but, when they detain someone, they provide a charge sheet.
You are fighting or going against the people who has no sense of law, respect, understanding of society and peace so same case we have in Pakistan and till we didn't adopt strict actions you can't save your society from any incident.
That's fact that in Pakistan there is no practice of arrests on "national security"and "terrorism" and you see who is barking freely against Pakistan even from your legislation assembly and outside it and you are powerless to touch them. Learn and adopt so there will be hope for the best.
Criminals, by definition, have no respect for the law.
If these people are guilty then, by all means, fry them, but due process should be followed.
The US scoffs at due process in Pakistan (drone strikes) but, on US soil, the authorities would never get away with such behavior.
Sir, we do not follow our own due process and we do not respect our own laws, do we? Why then would others?
So what does that makes us by your definition? Is it any surprise then how we are treated?
The stated goal of ETIM (East Turkestan Islamic Movement) is to create an Islamic state called East Turkestan, which they want to carve out of Xinjiang.
It is a mixture of Islamic extremism and ethnic separatism.
Needless to say, we will hunt these extremists down until there is nothing left of them.
Let's leave the subject of Pakistan since it will quickly derail the thread. Pakistan is hardly the paragon of human rights.
The point was that the due process is (mostly) respected by Western governments. Russia must also have some official rules of due process, whether they are actually followed or not.
Yes. Western countries have something called due process.
Even in terror cases, there is a charge sheet and a person is told what they are accused of.
When KSM was captured in March 2003, he refused to answer questions, informing his captors: "I'll tell you everything when I get to New York and see my lawyer." But the Bush administration did not send KSM to New York. Instead, he was sent to a CIA "black site," where he was questioned, not for evidence in a criminal trial but for intelligence about future terrorist attacks. When asked about his plans, he told the CIA, "Soon, you will know." And he declared that Americans were weak, lacked resilience, and were unable to do what is necessary to prevent the terrorists from succeeding in their goals.
But after undergoing "enhanced interrogation techniques" including waterboarding KSM became prolific. According to declassified documents, he provided information that led to the capture of a cell of Southeast Asian terrorists KSM had tasked to hijack a plane and fly it into the tallest skyscraper in Los Angeles. He provided information that led to the capture of Ammar al-Baluchi and Walid bin Attash, just as they were completing plans to blow up the U.S. consulate and Western residences in Karachi, Pakistan. He provided information that helped lead to the arrest of Sayfullah Paracha and his son Uzair Paracha, two businessmen with whom KSM was plotting to smuggle explosives into the USA. He provided information that helped break up an al-Qaeda cell that was developing anthrax for terrorist attacks inside the U.S.
In addition, KSM explained al-Qaeda's operating structure, financing, communications and logistics. He described the traits and profiles that al-Qaeda sought in Western operatives, how al-Qaeda might select targets, what probable targets were and the likely methods of attack. He gave U.S. officials a picture of the terrorist organization as seen from the inside, at a time when we knew almost nothing about the enemy that had hit us on 9/11.
In other words, the delay in KSM's prosecution, and that of other CIA detainees, saved lives.
Even that can change when many lives are on the line.
Yes. As I indicated above, magic words like "national security" and "imminent threat" can be used to temporarily suspend due process.
However, the actions usually need to be justified to a judge, even though the details may not be made public. As long as faith in the justice system remains, people will accept temporary transgressions.
can be done...has been done in the past....But drones wont let us...
Once the drones are gone and strict Afpak border scrutiny is enforced,the war can be over in less than an year...
So, long story short, there is no specific charge or evidence against anyone detained.
The FSB has given no reason and will "check for extremist content".
Uh huh.
As long as they utter the magic words "national security", "terrorism", or "Islamist", they can round up pretty much anyone they want. Of course, these people are Muslims, so no one's going to lose sleep over it.
The authorities in the West also battle terrorism but, when they detain someone, they provide a charge sheet.
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