Russia Battles China Over Bangladesh

[animelive]

This is not the first time that BKZ went there and she went their upon invitation from Dadas. Also note the recent article on washingtontimes, where she wrote "democracy in Bangladesh is undermined and its economic allegiance shifts toward other growing world powers". Also note the recent BNP remarks on BSF shooting. These may be political I am not debating that ,but your argument on BNP policy shift remains unfounded at least officially in the eyes of analyst and commoners.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangla...ers-say-party-shifting-anti-india-stance.html
lol k?

another decade? Debatable but doesn't give ground for ill conceived, political agenda based procurement of russian planes.

Yes a decade, heck are the chinese even ready to sell us their modern planes?

I am not advocating US arms, it was just for the sake of argument. Anyway geopolitical interest and strategy change with time and 2013 is not same as 1990s. But in case of Russia I don't see their policy shifting under current geopolitical set up mainly due to the grip they have on the time tested 2nd largest amrs market in the world & need for that trusted partner to help them counter rising China for influence in C.asia. They really don't trust China and fear it. No rocket science but common sense. As I said they won't sacrifice billions of $$$ of time tested market for a puny & unpredictable market like BD .

So you are going to make arguments based on your wet dreams? well wake up. I don't want to listen to your geo politics, Russians will sell anything and everything as long as you pay them, FACT. Pure business. No need to sacrifice their times, you pay them, they give you arms.

Iraq was due to Oil. Its in ME of all places. As for PAK, I see U bring PAK eg. in every argument. A war is going on there flamed by US as well as Dadas. They R a direct sufferer of WOT and have been blessed with chronic civil war strife AF as a neighbor. U see they R fending off well against US and also they R in a strategically very important location in the world where great game is being played for over 150 years and whose importance has new found prominence a world stage. Our strategic importance albeit prominent but is not as great as their's and is fundamentally dissimilar in nature. They also have resident dalals in their country as well.
And people power rules. A gov that has support of its people can fend off against any power, take eg. of Islamist ruled Egypt & Turkey. Gov that have ideological & strategic differences with US's new found crusade.

Kottheke koi gelen? i was pointing out that Pakistan and Iraq are great example of US friendship. Oh trust me, US will do anything to fend off Russian and Chinese influence from South Asia, even if its from a country like BD.
The damage on Egypt btw is already done. They have successfully divided Egypt into two parts. Note the unrest going inside Egypt.

And russians love muslim?

Note, Russians do not discriminate against Muslims. Russians also stick to business. Whereas US is the international symbol of Anti-Islam and greedy bankers who will poke their nose in everything as long as they make profit.

Don't know. But comparing BTR 80 & few Mil17 with 4.5 gen fighters is like comparing apples and oranges. As expected U clearly didn't get my previous post but bothered replying.

Huh? "There is a reason why our military were never interested in russian stuffs apart from the corruption factor involved in awami arm purchase."

 

[Luffy 500]

So you are going to make argume... intellect of a hammarian nationalist. :lol:

 

[kobiraaz]

Russia will sell anything and everything is a wrong statement... They won't sell us any weapon that india considers threat... Even some people think Su27 was excluded from the list because of India ( not sure though ) ! Ask for S400 from russia, only two battery please and see what happens...

 

[Contrarian]

We are going a bit off-topic. Anyway, BD people will continue to value diversity to a greater extent and surely tolerate other religions. Extremism is a state of mind and it's counter-productive, it can associate with any ideology upon earth. But people lacking a fundamental understanding of Islam may not get over the propagated stereotype of a Muslim.

Extremism can indeed be associated with any religion, however in the current era, followers of Islam are most likely to be extremists in nature. Because a version of Islam is manipulating what Islam is really about and propagating this narrow view. There is a reason why a disproportionate number of terrorists are Muslims - and that too Muslims from very specific countries.

It is because those countries have ingrained within them the ideology of extremism - which is Salafi/Wahabi under funding from Saudi Arabia. If you are implying me to lack fundamental understanding of Islam, then you are quite wrong. I have studied Islam in the level of detail required - and i do know that it is not an extremist religion.

Which is why i said, as long as BD remains tolerant, vibrant and respects all religions as equal, there should be no fundamental difference of interests between India and BD. Both are seeking better lives for their poor citizens.

 

[SHAMK9]

Hammer bhai, the flag in your avatar, what does it represents?

 

[Hammer-fist]

Hammer bhai, the flag in your avatar, what does it represents?

It is the flag of the Kachin.

The Kachin are a minority ethnic group in Burma oppressed by the government and face a military attack by them.

The Kachin leadership have positive views of the Muslim Rohingyas in Arakan, so Bangladeshi nationalists should support the mainly Christian Kachin against the fascist Buddhist junta of Burma.

 

[idune]

It is a fact. Till the time Jamaat comes to power in BD, or the people of BD become wahabized/salafized like Pakistani's, they will believe in having a BD that is prosperous, value diversity, treat all their citizens as equal and not have Islamic xenophobia(like Pakistan).

Till the above 4 conditions exist, India and BD share fundamental values.

1) India killing thousands of Bangladeshis.
2) India had been obstructing water in common rivers and destroying livelihood of hundrededs of million of Bangladeshis.
3) India occupying Banglsadeshi land and maritime EEZ territory

All these are done even when Awami League is in power which is indian subservient regime. Bangladesh internal politics has not been matter. Jamaat is a Bangladeshi political party and should irrelevant fact on india Bangladesh relation. What matter is Bangladesh interest and survival and india is threatening Bangladesh survival.

 

[animelive]

Russia will sell anything and everything is a wrong statement... They won't sell us any weapon that india considers threat... Even some people think Su27 was excluded from the list because of India ( not sure though ) ! Ask for S400 from russia, only two battery please and see what happens...

If Russia can supply us with Migs, id on't see any reason why sukhoi will be declined to be given.
Russia will start exporting that system from 2015 according to wikipedia. If we can pay, they wil supply it to us. Heck, even Chinese are sold many stuffs from Russia. That is enough to come to the conclusion that they will give you arms as long as you pay them.

I told U it won't get to your head and don't bother replying. SO it comes down to my "wet dreams". I guess I don't have the intellect of a hammarian nationalist.

Yes, i am more into reality. You keep dreaming about 10 squadrons of F-16 and gripens in Bangladesh

 

[TopCat]

Russia will sell anything and everything is a wrong statement... They won't sell us any weapon that india considers threat... Even some people think Su27 was excluded from the list because of India ( not sure though ) ! Ask for S400 from russia, only two battery please and see what happens...

Russia will not construct huge nuclear plant to a country where it will not sell S-400.

 

[animelive]

Russia will not construct huge nuclear plant to a country where it will not sell S-400.

Two huge nuclear plants, close to India.

 

[LaBong]

Wow Bangladeshis want S400! Why not ask for moon as well while you are at it.

 

[animelive]

Wow Bangladeshis want S400! Why not ask for moon as well while you are at it.

 

[Gandalf]

Two huge nuclear plants, close to India.

How can 2 nuke power plants totally civilian in nature IAEA safeguards meant for non nuclear weapons country be a threat to India,BDeshi?

If China was building them there was still a question but our friend Russia is building this.

 

[animelive]

How can 2 nuke power plants totally civilian in nature IAEA safeguards meant for non nuclear weapons country be a threat to India,BDeshi?

If China was building them there was still a question but our friend Russia is building this.

Oh my bad, i think i saw an Indian somewhere around this forum being butt hurt since we didn't inform you guys on this

 

[Gandalf]

Oh my bad, i think i saw an Indian somewhere around this forum being butt hurt since we didn't inform you guys on this

Well I see BDeshi delusionals in this forum everyday thinking their country is the center of the world.
And many BDesis blame for getting their lungis tied up in knots.