Rising above differences!

[ito]

Do not ignore the fundamental issue here. The Two Nation Theory is an ongoing phenomenon and ever proliferating. Muslims are now in a position to demand separate homelands in Kerala, W Bengal and Assam. Liberation of Arakan or the emergence of Azad Arakan is a matter of time.

Do you believe in two nation theory or not? You are confusing. If you believe in two nation theory...you failed. Muslims of the subcontinent are divided into three groups...180 m in India, 180 m in Pak and 150 m in BD. Moreover the whole BD movement for freedom from Pakistan was based on premise that Bengalis have different cultural identity

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

Refer to Taiwan/China, USA/Russia, India/China. Does Norway continue training army? For what to fight the Swedes? Father Christmas? No, it is the same enemy Norway has trained as part of NATO, Russia. Cold war lives on. Refer to my previous post below. I would say we are at No.2

The issue is well stated by William Shakespeare in his play seven ages of man.
When man is a Solder!!

 

[WAJsal]

Refer to Taiwan/China, USA/Russia, India/China. Does Norway continue training army? For what to fight the Swedes? Father Christmas? No, it is the same enemy Norway has trained as part of NATO, Russia. Cold war lives on. Refer to my previous post below. I would say we are at No.2



Referandum? What referandum. Find out what referandum India needed for taking over Hyderabad State. India just invaded and with loaded sarcasm called the military invasion "police action". We should have done exactly the same thing in Kashmir in 1947 and called it "police action 2: Mission Kashmir" like India did with Hyderabad but our leadership was gutless.

Hyderabad 1948: India's hidden massacre - BBC News
Indian integration of Hyderabad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hyderabad 1948 | India's hidden massacre.
True what a shame.

 

[ito]

I have read it. As far as Pakistan and India is concerned, stupidity has brought us this far. Kashmir issue is easily solvable, quite clear for a mutual point of view that India does not want to solve this issue. No mutual understanding, no talks between the nation. Am sorry as much as i want peace and all, can't see it happening. Not till Indian leadership changes it's approach towards Kashmir issue and in particular Pakistan. Such behavior will only create more problem.

No nation will part with territory...even a small nation will fight tooth and nail...what solutions do you have in you mind that easy. What do you want the Indian leadership to change?

 

[Biplab Bijay]

Kashmir was practically landlocked* and had a majority Muslim population with a Hindu ruler. I would have expected Pakistan to have done the same. Like I said gutless leadership.

*That is why the invading force was brought by air. Only later when the Bannihal Tunnel was opened in 1950s was a all weather road link developed with India.

Jawahar Tunnel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The only difference is Hindus in Hyderabaad have not kicked out muslims in the name of freedom, where as Kashmiri Muslims have kicked out Kashmiri Pundits in the name of freedom and religion.

 

[WAJsal]

No nation will part with territory...even a small nation will fight tooth and nail...what solutions do you have in you mind that easy. What do you want the Indian leadership to change?

Accept there is problem in Kashmir, everyone know's that. Now Indian leadership is trying to ignore the issue, in particular ignoring the locals. Locals should decide their fate. Instead of solving problems more problems are being created. Again both countries should let Kashmir's decide. Something that will never happen by the way. In my opinion India cannot take the chances.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

Can't you understand with your limited IQ that a war between two nuclear armed states mean mutually assured destruction?

LOL !!
This is true in case of a conventional War...
Do read some history... Europe never fought a nuclear war but it had to rebuild every thing after the 2 great wars.

Moreover if you do read my posts on the subject of Nuclear Weapons then you are going to realize that Nuclear weapons are hence considered a deterrence and instrument of peace between Pakistan and India.

 

[Norwegian]

Again both countries should let Kashmir's decide.

If Kashmiris decide to be part of Pakistan, India won't accept. If they decided to join India, Pakistan won't agree. The solution? Let them remain independent.

 

[ito]

Accept there is problem in Kashmir, everyone know's that. Now Indian leadership is trying to ignore the issue, in particular ignoring the locals. Locals should decide their fate. Instead of solving problems more problems are being created. Again both countries should let Kashmir's decide. Something that will never happen by the way. In my opinion India cannot take the chances.

India too accept there is a problem in Kashmir. But parting with territory creates more problems that solving anything. It is the perfect recipe for disaster.

 

[WAJsal]

If Kashmiris decide to be part of Pakistan, India won't accept. If they decided to join India, Pakistan won't. The solution? Let them remain independent.

There lies the problem. Independent state seams like a good option too. Again ain't happening.

 

[ito]

If Kashmiris decide to be part of Pakistan, India won't accept. If they decided to join India, Pakistan won't agree. The solution? Let them remain independent.

Nobody want an Independent Kashmir (that can become breeding ground for ISIS and AQ) and neither is it stipulated in the UN resolution.

 

[Biplab Bijay]

Let us not look at Kargil in isolation. The issue is the occupation of J&K by India against the will of its people. Kashmiris, Pakistanis and Muslims all over will always be struggling to evict Indians from J&K. For peace India just has to face the truth in J&K.

And in that process they Kicked out Kashmiri Pundits who have been struggling till now. Lets not look at the struggling of muslims in Isolation. The issue is the Invasion of non-muslim lands and destruction of their local heritage culture and religious places. For peace muslims Pakistanis and Kashmiri Muslims must face the truth.

 

[Norwegian]

There lies the problem. Independent state seams like a good option too. Again ain't happening.

We must wholeheartedly accept that there are more than two nations living in this region. Kashmiris, like Bengalis can gain independence since its a known problem with various Muslim ethnicities to live together in a federation for a longer periods of time.

 

[third eye]

I have read it. As far as Pakistan and India is concerned, stupidity has brought us this far. Kashmir issue is easily solvable, quite clear for a mutual point of view that India does not want to solve this issue. No mutual understanding, no talks between the nation. Am sorry as much as i want peace and all, can't see it happening. Not till Indian leadership changes it's approach towards Kashmir issue and in particular Pakistan. Such behavior will only create more problem.

What are your views to ' easily solve the J&K issue '

Please note the area in question is J&K and not Kashmir.

Mutual understanding cannot happen when one side allows & encourages non state players.

On one side there is a hue & cry on an unenforceable UN resolution of 1948 & on the other another UN resolution on Lakhvi is ignored !

 

[Biplab Bijay]

Accept there is problem in Kashmir, everyone know's that. Now Indian leadership is trying to ignore the issue, in particular ignoring the locals. Locals should decide their fate. Instead of solving problems more problems are being created. Again both countries should let Kashmir's decide. Something that will never happen by the way. In my opinion India cannot take the chances.

The locals were responsible for that when they bring religion into this and Kicked out Kashmiri Pundits out of the valley in the name of freedom.