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Here you go enjoy this post about MQM and it's anti-state and criminal activities. I hope it will help you open your eyes and release you from the shackles of MQM worship.

Altaf Hussain, the notorious MQM leader who swapped Pakistan for London
Altaf Hussain lives in London but leads Pakistan's powerful, controversial MQM party, which has millions of supporters. He has also been acccused of inciting murder and violence in his home country
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MQM supporters gather at a rally in Karachi, Pakistan in January 2011. Photograph: Rizwan Tabassum/AFP/Getty Images
Pakistan's most vibrant, vivacious and popular 24-hour news channel, Geo TV, generally has little difficulty recruiting staff. Its headquarters are in Karachi, Pakistan's so called "city of dreams" – a massive, sprawling conurbation with 20 million residents seeking a better life. And yet there was one vacancy recently that Geo TV could not fill. The channel wanted a lookalike for its popular satirical show, in which actors play the parts of the country's leading politicians. It was a job offering instant stardom and good money. And not a single person in Karachi was willing to do it.

The man Geo TV sought to satirise was Altaf Hussain, the leader of the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM). And the reason no one applied was the fear that if Altaf Hussain were unamused by the performance, the actor playing him would be murdered.

Anxiety about the MQM is not restricted to Pakistan. One member of the British House of Lords who has been openly critical of the MQM recently said: "If I went to Karachi now I would be killed." Another peer has similar worries: "This is one issue I don't ask questions on. I have my child to worry about."

The man who has everyone looking over his or her shoulder does not even live in Karachi. For more than 20 years, Altaf Hussain has operated from the north London suburb of Edgware, beyond the reach of Pakistani prosecutors. He is almost completely unknown in the UK: his four-million-plus devoted supporters live thousands of miles away.

It's difficult to know how many murder cases have been registered against Altaf Hussain, but perhaps the most authoritative number was released in 2009 when the then Pakistani president General Pervez Musharraf implemented his National Reconciliation Order, granting most of the country's senior politicians an amnesty. One of the biggest beneficiaries was Hussain, against 72 cases were dropped, including 31 allegations of murder. The MQM rejects all the murder charges lodged against Hussain.

When Pakistan was created in 1947 it had a population of 70 million. As well as the Bengalis in East Pakistan (who split away to form Bangladesh in 1971) there were four main indigenous groups: the Sindhis, the Baloch, the Pashtuns and the Punjabis. Partition brought a new element: Muslims who had fled Hindu-majority India. They were called the Mohajirs and most settled in Karachi, which was then the capital of Pakistan. This is the group represented by the Mohajir Qaumi Movement or, as it's now named, the Muttahida (United) Qaumi Movement or MQM.

At first the Mohajirs fared well. As many had spearheaded the campaign to create the country, they slipped naturally into leadership positions. But their disproportionate influence could never last. By the 70s a political backlash, especially from Punjabis and Sindhis, was in full swing and many Mohajirs found themselves unable to secure jobs or even places in schools and universities. For a group that thought it had the right to govern, it came as a heavy blow. And the first man to exploit the Mohajirs' sense of grievance was Hussain.

In 1988 MQM candidates broke through, and suddenly the party was the third largest in the National Assembly and has dominated Karachi politics ever since. Hussain has periodically flirted with demands for some kind of territorial settlement: "When everyone else had a province," he said in March 1984, "we said the Mohajirs should have one too." But for the most part he has accepted that such a demand is plainly unacceptable to the rest of Pakistan and has restricted himself to demands for greater Mohajir rights within the existing national framework.

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Altaf Hussain with his British passport, granted in 2002.

The MQM's most vocal critic today is cricketer-politician Imran Khan. In 2007, portraying himself as the man who dared to confront even the most entrenched political interests, Khan paid a visit to the Metropolitan police in London to hand over, he claimed, evidence of Hussain's wrongdoing. Apparently unimpressed with the quality of that evidence, the police did not bring any charges and Khan let the issue drop. But in May this year when one of his best-known party activists in Karachi, Zahra Shahid Hussain, was shot down outside her home, Khan openly accused the MQM of her murder. Thousands of his social media-savvy supporters were encouraged to complain to the British police. More than 12,000 did so and the police responded by, for the first time, formally investigating Altaf Hussain's London activities.

There are a number of strands to the Met's inquiries. First there is the issue of whether the MQM leader is using his London base to incite violence in Pakistan. In assessing that, the police have a huge amount of material to sift through, much of it online. At his birthday party in 2009, for example, he regaled his guests with a remark aimed at Pakistan's rich landowners and businessmen: "You've made big allegations against the MQM. If you make those allegations to my face one more time you'll be taking down your measurements and we'll prepare your body bags."

Because he is in London, Hussain addresses rallies in Karachi over the telephone. Crowds gather to listen to his voice through loudspeakers. In one such speech he had this message for TV anchors: "If you don't stop the lies and false allegations that damage our party's reputation, then don't blame me, Altaf Hussain, or the MQM if you get killed by any of my millions of supporters."

Most of his threats have been aimed at people in Pakistan but at least one was directed at the UK journalist Azhar Javaid who asked a question once too often. At a press conference in September 2011 Hussain warned Javaid that his "body bag was ready".

Adressing those whom he accused of denying the Mohajirs their rights, in December 2012, Hussain ranted: "If your father won't give us freedom just listen to this sentence carefully: then we will tear open your father's abdomen. To get our freedom we will not only tear it out of your father's abdomen but yours as well."

Partly because of the difficulty of establishing unchallengeable translations of Hussain's words, it might be months before the police decide whether to recommend a prosecution. In the meantime there is talk of a private prosecution. Long-time MQM critic George Galloway MP recently set up a fund to pay the legal fees of such an initiative.

On two occasions British judges have found that the MQM is a violent organisation. In 2010 a Karachi-based police officer sought asylum in the UK claiming the MQM was threatening to kill him in revenge for his having registered a case against one of its members. The judge, Lord Bannatyne, granted asylum and in his judgment accepted that: "the MQM has killed over 200 police officers who stood up to them in Karachi".

The figure is often cited by the Karachi police themselves, and refers to those officers who were closely involved in Benazir Bhutto's anti-MQM crackdown, Operation Clean-up. It came in 1995, during Bhutto's second government. Unable to rely on the slow, intimidated and corrupt courts, which were always nervous to convict MQM defendants, the security forces resorted to hundreds if not thousands of extrajudicial killings of MQM activists. Many of the police officers responsible have subsequently been murdered. MQM, however, refutes any allegations of inciting violence from London.

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Imran Farooq was stabbed to death outside his flat in north London. Photograph: Metropolitan Police/PA

When asked about these allegations, MQM issued the following statement to the Guardian: "We'd also like to point out here that it is the MQM that has been the worst victim of violence in recent history of the country. The Taliban and other jihadi elements have killed scores of MQM members … "

As well as the incitement investigation, the British police are currently running another MQM-related inquiry. It concerns the September 2010 murder of a senior MQM member, Imran Farooq, who was stabbed to death outside his flat in Green Lane, Edgware. For the UK authorities, his murder crossed a red line. London is open to outsiders – but they have to leave their violent politics back home.

The Counter Terrorism Command have launched a massive and sustained investigation into Farooq's death. In December last year they raided the MQM's Edgware offices where they found substantial thousands of documents. Since most of the material is in Urdu and some, from MQM lawyers, is subject to client privilege, assessing it is extremely time-consuming. But with 12 officers working on the case full-time and a whole range of specialists available to carry out specific tasks when needed, the police are still showing real determination to trace Farooq's killer.

In its statement to the Guardian, the MQM said: "MQM understands that as part of that ongoing investigation, the Metropolitan police have interviewed several hundred people. MQM has assisted the ongoing police investigation whenever it has been requested to do so. A number of MQM party members have also voluntarily offered to be witnesses to assist the ongoing police investigation. Mr Altaf Hussain, MQM's party leader, has not been arrested nor charged with any criminal offence. The police are treating Mr Hussain as one of a large number of potential witnesses in their investigation and not as a suspect."

Right from the start the police raids in the investigation have produced rich material. Shortly after the 2010 murder the police found a significant number of papers stashed in Farooq's home. Some of the documents gave credence to the confessions made by a number of suspected MQM militants in Karachi. Repeatedly, MQM activists there had told the Pakistani authorities they were trained in India. Asked on numerous occasions over a period of several weeks about its relationship with the MQM, Indian government officials have failed to make any statement on the matter. Recent police raids have turned up £150,000 at the party's Edgware's offices and £250,000 at Hussain's house in Mill Hill.

The police say they are making significant progress in the Farooq murder case and have an ever-clearer understanding of what they believe was a conspiracy to kill him. Their investigation, however, is complicated by the fact that the MQM has supporters deep within the Pakistani state who want to protect it, and more cynical actors such as Pakistan's main intelligence agency, the ISI, which want to control it.

However, the recent elections in Pakistan have left the MQM politically weaker and there is a distinct possibility that the government of Nawaz Sharif will be less protective of the MQM than the last administration.

Aware that Farooq's killer or killers may be thousands of miles away and, the British Police believe, back in Pakistan, the UK investigation has focused on who might have ordered the murder. Having promised full co-operation with the British authorities Hussain has also complained that he is the subject of a witch-hunt and a conspiracy.

Recent British police actions have included the arrest (he is now bailed until September) of Altaf Hussain's nephew, Ishtiaq Hussain. The police won't divulge why he was arrested. Intriguingly, Altaf Hussain also let slip that he himself and MQM were being investigated for money laundering. This is now one of the most active elements of the British police's work. The question is: where does all the money seized in the raids and that used to buy the MQM's extensive UK property portfolio come from? In the statement to the Guardian, the MQM deny the laundering allegations.

"It is reiterated here that the party, its leader Mr Altaf Hussain or any other member of the Party has never dealt with any money that is the proceeds of crime. MQM's legal team has already submitted effective answers to questions concerning the cash seized from the party's office, whereas legal responses would be submitted shortly concerning the cash seized from Mr Altaf Hussain's residence."

With a condescension that is increasingly grating to the Pakistani public, Washington and London produce a regular flow of statements expressing concern about various Pakistani human rights abuses. But the whole issue of human rights monitoring is suffused with double standards. The abuses listed by the US and the UK are in fact little more than diplomatic ammunition held in reserve and deployed should the need arise.

The UK itself has questions to answer. It has resisted repeated Pakistani requests to hand over Hussain so that he can stand trial for murder in Pakistan. Hussain arrived in London in February 1992 and just three years later, Benazir Bhutto – then prime minister – was asking for London's help. "I think the British government has a moral responsibility to restrain Mr Altaf Hussain and say you cannot use our soil for violence," she said. Eighteen years later, Imran Khan's appeal was strikingly similar: "I blame the British government. Would they allow someone to sit in Pakistan and threaten people in the UK? They know about his track record."

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A protest against Altaf Hussain, outside Downing street in May this years Photograph: AFP/Getty Images

If Hussain were a suspected London-based jihadi, many Pakistanis believe, he would have been arrested years ago.

Pakistanis point to other instances where they believe the UK has favoured Hussain. In 2002 he was issued with a UK passport. Off the record, British officials admit that the process by which he obtained nationality was flawed – a decision in January 1999 to grant him indefinite leave to remain in the UK was made as a result of a "clerical error". Despite repeated questions, the Home Office has refused to disclose what that error was.

Most Pakistanis dismiss the idea of a clerical error as risible. They point to a letter No 10 received from Hussain as evidence of how the UK and the MQM have tried to conceal the true nature of their relationship. Written just two weeks after 9/11, in it Hussain says that if the UK wanted hundreds of thousands of people on the streets of Karachi denouncing terrorism he could lay that on with just five days' notice. He claimed he could also organise human intelligence on the Taliban and could set up a network of fake aid workers in Afghanistan to back up Western intelligence gathering efforts there.

After a copy of the letter appeared on the internet, the MQM denied its authenticity. Disclosures under the Freedom of Information Act have established that the letter is in fact authentic. Faced with that information, the Foreign Office admitted it had received the letter.

As Hussain suggests in the letter, British interest in the MQM is largely driven by the perception that the party offers a defence against jihadis. But there is more to it than that. The MQM is British turf: Karachi is one of the few places left on earth in which the Americans let Britain take the lead. The US consulate in Karachi no longer runs active intelligence gathering operations in the city. The British still do. When it comes to claiming a place at the top table of international security politics – London's relationship with the MQM is a remaining toehold.

And there's something else. The FCO's most important currency is influence. Successive Pakistani governments, when they are not demanding Hussain's extradition, have included his parliamentary bloc in various coalition governments. From the FCO's point of view, it's a great source of access. Right on their doorstep, in London, they have a man with ministers in the Pakistani government.

For its part the UK government insists there is nothing unusual about its contacts with MQM and that its meetings with MQM officials are: "a normal part of diplomatic activity around the world". I spoke to a British official recently about the MQM and asked why the UK government, so keen to declare its commitment to human rights, seemed so willing to deal with the party despite officials privately saying that it uses violence to achieve its goals. She said: "There is one thing I can assure you of – it's not a conspiracy." Which in a sense is true. It's not a conspiracy. It's just policy.

Owen Bennett-Jones is the author of Target Britain

all this karaye ke pithus, puppets, zombies, who bow down to their feudal masters, they don't even know on who's agenda filled with taasub they are following

pakistani british community has been fooled a lot, they have been fooled to follow people who are misusing them

the same MQM will change the mind set of these people, they wont act like zombies getting controlled and brainwashed by their operators or feudal lords

they would be free to choose their destiny which will no longer be bound with fake hopes of naya pakistan, roshan pakistan, they wont be enslaved by their weakness which is dreaming for their better future.

have you seen the movie matrix?, how the humanity was fooled into believing the world which never existed in the first place and that they were living in a fantasy which was not in reality, in reality, they were getting misused, they were showed those dreams of utopia which never existed

MQM will free those people who are currently plugged onto something absurd, which has nothing to do with reality and will give them choice to make their own destiny instead of following into someone's selfish desire of greed, power, money and fame.

the british author is also the element of propaganda by those selfish, feudal people who have vandatta aginst MQM because MQM is ready to show people what is the reality and what they are led to believe in false dreams and lies
 
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MQM strongholds were already no go areas for pashtuns, for them every pashtun was taliban including ANP people.....in the new situation nothing has changed for MQM.....

Right.....so where exactly in Afghanistan do you hail from?

The PML-N is trying to pit MQM against Taliban in Karachi , very foolish and short sighted , much like Gen Zia propped up the MQM to counter PPP

I don't think it's a bad idea. But MQM should then be supported by the LEA's as well as Intelligence Agencies. Furthermore, I believe a similar understanding should exist in tribal areas as well.....tribals should root out the terrorists there and they should have all the help and support they need from the state machinery.

The MQM was brought about by Gen Zia to counter PPP in urban Sindh , mainly Karachi, that's a very well known fact

Nawaz Sharif is the prodigy of Gen Zia , he is going to do the same now with MQM

This is my opinion , you can disagree wit it

Actually, it was JI/JuI that was created to counter PPP.
 
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Juma juma aat din nahi howay tujey.....abey newbie kya expose kar lia? members here know my view points, i am very repetitive.
Dont need to get diarrheal over my views on durand line, tribesmen on both sides of durand dont see any wall dividing them, they are crossing it freely since thousands of years...45 to 50% of livelihood of tribals depend upon trade with afghanistan, if you try to fence and mine border , you are definately going to see a blacklash. Your racist side might say that these tribals should migrate to afghanistan, they are traitors....but remember we are not biharis of 1971, these are our lands since thousands of years, we died in thousands while defending our lands from constant invasions from central asia, we decide about our soil.....

To us, the Durand line is a settled matter and is an IB......we do not really care what you or your country thinks! Just wait for the Americans and NATO to leave and you will get to know your reality pretty quickly, if not already done so.

I can't wait for Pakistan to throw our all Afghans, every last one of them!

Turf war between two terrorist outfits, let them kill each-other. win-win

Avatar Quaid ka aur Quaid se hi ghaddari??

This has to be one of the most racist posts I have seen on pdf, I could continue the racial tit for tat but I am above that....

He probably meant Afghans.
 
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If PTI is involved PPP should take action who is stopping them


If PTI had planned bhata khori and had powerful target killers MQM dare not kill PTI Head of Karachi after election


Remember MQM MPA Last name Raza something was martyred and the next day 100 pathans got martyred by "Bahi kay jialay" later it was revealed that it was done by TTP and not ANP


From kpk bhatta is collected by TTP sitting in tribal area as everyone knows

O yaar, kuch to sharam ker le bhai.
 
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MQM hasn't developed Pakistan has. Karachi was biggest and most industrialized city before MQM even came to prominence. Karachi is a Pakistani city not MQMs city, drill that into your skull.

In the last 30 years, the only official authority that has developed Karachi was the mayor under MQM. Nobody had bothered about Karachi before MQM or bothers about Karachi today other then MQM.



But the question still remains, why is the leader of such an enlightened and progressive party hiding in a foreign land instead of leading his people and living among them?
Go figure

Because of severe racial discrimination and people who exhibit it, like you. This leader, who may be making mistake often in the last 4-5 years, had a head money of 25 Lakh in the year 1992 (or thereabouts)! How does such a man still live in Pakistan? And unless you have lived abroad, you can not judge the person!

It will make sense when rangers go in and mop up the aftermath.

If only the Rangers were that professional and dedicated!

ab teray jesay bataen gay ........

Mujh jaise se mil lo kabhi, samjhayen ge tumhen, Inshallah!
 
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all this karaye ke pithus, puppets, zombies, who bow down to their feudal masters, they don't even know on who's agenda filled with taasub they are following.

So According to you they should be actually enlightened like yourself and your fellow Bhai worshipers, and follow the diktats of the British masters. Right?

the british author is also the element of propaganda by those selfish, feudal people who have vandatta aginst MQM because MQM is ready to show people what is the reality and what they are led to believe in false dreams and lies

Answer the various valid points raised about the conduct of this traitor organization. Don't start Conspiracy theories about the Author. If you have any proof about the conduct of this author, put it in front of every one to see and judge for themselves.
 
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In the last 30 years, the only official authority that has developed Karachi was the mayor under MQM. Nobody had bothered about Karachi before MQM or bothers about Karachi today other then MQM.


Nobody has bothered about Karachi? Actually its more like nobody has been allowed to establish a foothold in Karachi. Because of the MQMs intimidatory and militant techniques.
Also no matter whatever party the mayor of a city belongs, once anyone gets in office he represents the whole Pakistani Federation, Oath of office is not an Oath to a party, its an Oath to Pakistan and its constitution.

Because of severe racial discrimination and people who exhibit it, like you. This leader, who may be making mistake often in the last 4-5 years, had a head money of 25 Lakh in the year 1992 (or thereabouts)! How does such a man still live in Pakistan? And unless you have lived abroad, you can not judge the person!

The reason he is not in Pakistan is given below. If you want to act like his advocate answer them.
And what has mine living abroad got anything to do this.

Recent police raids have turned up £150,000 at the party's Edgware's offices and £250,000 at Hussain's house in Mill Hill.

In 2002 he was issued with a UK passport. Off the record, British officials admit that the process by which he obtained nationality was flawed – a decision in January 1999 to grant him indefinite leave to remain in the UK was made as a result of a "clerical error". Despite repeated questions, the Home Office has refused to disclose what that error was.

Actually there is no error. The reason he was given British citizenship is because of his services to the Empire.

Written just two weeks after 9/11, in it Hussain says that if the UK wanted hundreds of thousands of people on the streets of Karachi denouncing terrorism he could lay that on with just five days' notice. He claimed he could also organise human intelligence on the Taliban and could set up a network of fake aid workers in Afghanistan to back up Western intelligence gathering efforts there.
After a copy of the letter appeared on the internet, the MQM denied its authenticity. Disclosures under the Freedom of Information Act have established that the letter is in fact authentic. Faced with that information, the Foreign Office admitted it had received the letter.

Does anybody need any more proof that this guy and his organization is a traitor to Pakistan.

From the FCO's point of view, it's a great source of access. Right on their doorstep, in London, they have a man with ministers in the Pakistani government.
 
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Its a fact that MQM is a terrorist cum political organization. and I hate this outfit for turning Pakistan's biggest city into a battleground. At the same killing many innocent Pakistanis.



Apart from your hate what had you given as source to prove MQM a terrorist outfit....???????? Nothing :what:
 
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Apart from your hate what had you given as source to prove MQM a terrorist outfit....???????? Nothing :what:
Read my post #89 and #100, there is enough evidence, unless if you are willfully blind.
 
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Apart from your hate what had you given as source to prove MQM a terrorist outfit....???????? Nothing

How about Canada designating it a terrorist organization?

Judge orders deportation of Pakistani party chief

The head of the Quebec branch of a Pakistani political party is facing deportation after the Federal Court of Canada ruled he belonged to an organization that committed terrorism.

The judge upheld the deportation of Mohammed Kashif Omer, a resident of Montreal, on the grounds he is a member of the Mothaidda Quami Movement, or MQM.

It is the second time this year Canadian courts have ruled the MQM party meets the legal definition of a terrorist organization.
 
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wrora ignore these karachiites....they are the type of people who think that wearing patloon , jeans and speaking broken english make them modern, civilized and broad-minded. For them a traditional and cultural person , wearing turban, wasket and shalwar kameez is a jahil , poor and backward person....while every bearded person is a maulvi.

Always racist and yet in just another of your posts , you will still accuse someone else of being such . :azn: Compare the HDI's - the benchmark for quality of life for a change , forget the lifestyle or whatever problems , you have with the change and modernization . @forcetrip was right on that thread , some people view progress as being against Islam . Time changes and so does the society , nobody wants to remain stuck in the Alexander's era anymore .

I like this move. We won't tolerate Taliban thugs in our city.

Indeed , the Govt's response as usual will be late and thus disastrous . Though , I am not a huge supporter of such acts but desperate times demand desperate measures . If the state isn't doing its duties properly and have let the 35% of Karachi slide into the hands of the stone agers , its about time some other entity does .

When tensions rise.... I doubt Urdu speaking guy can fearlessly enter Pakhtoon dominated areas of Karachi even today when there are apparently not much tensions.

Why does Jeans-T Shirt in Banaras spell disaster for people even today ?

MQM hasn't developed Pakistan has. Karachi was biggest and most industrialized city before MQM even came to prominence. Karachi is a Pakistani city not MQMs city, drill that into your skull.

Who provides the leadership being dominating the city for long ? The election results speak for themselves , accept it or not , but the overwhelming majority of the people of Karachi vote for MQM . This is a truth .
 
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The PML-N is trying to pit MQM against Taliban in Karachi , very foolish and short sighted , much like Gen Zia propped up the MQM to counter PPP

Thats the way to deal with them. They are both Mafias, let them kill each other ! In Chicago they did the same thing to bring peace back.
 
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