Removal of Prof shows Pakistan has forgotten Jinnah’s view on Ahmadis: YLH

[SoulSpokesman]

@war&peace

he declined to attend the funeral prayer of the same man who appointed him i.e. Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah.

Not true. There were 2 funerals of our beloved Qaid. One led by Maulana Usmani, a notorious Deobandi and another led by Shia Imam. He skipped the first, attended the second.

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[RIP Pak LAW]

Mate, different views are okay but there are reports that he is an emotional person and a zealot, he would have created a lot commotion and then quitted if his POV was not accepted. Also, he is very active Qadiyani who has a close link with their head quarters so that was a huge blunder and it have ended IK's govt. People had a lot of resentment. If someone cannot honour the sentiments of the majority, he has no right to rule it either.

No that's not the case. We are finding excuses , don't we ? Had he created any problems by dragging his religious believes in economics than, no one would had protested over his dismissal than. PTI than would had some solid ground against his potential firing.

 

[Pakistani E]

Who is this great person, I am clueless here.

As for Quaid knowing Zafarullah Khan as being an Ahmadi...obviously he must knew it, I was talking about the nitty gritty and the duplicity how they work as a cult with deceit and deception, and that Qadianis were proclaimed non Muslims in 1974, that was my point.

So you think others at this forum are retarded intellectuals and you aren't one of them...chest thumping/self boasting itself is a form of low mental faculties.

Making up conspiracy theories is a sign of mental illness, as is being paranoid. Jinnah (rh) knew very well about Ahmadi beliefs, as he went to the Ahmadi mosque in London and announced his return at an Eid party organised there by Maulana Abdur Rahim Dard, imam of the Ahmadiyya mosque in London. Maybe do some research before passing yourself off as an expert.

And yes, failure to hold an objective discussion, failure to discuss all merits and cons of the subject, and then passing judgement on it with half concocted facts and misinformation makes one a person of low mental faculty.

Next time, read up a bit more on history of Jinnah (rh) and how close he was to the Ahmadiyya Movement before espousing rubbish. I have given you some of my precious time already, which I don't think you deserve. So in the words of a distinguished member of this forum, kudos and adios.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Making up conspiracy theories is a sign of mental illness, as is being paranoid. Jinnah (rh) knew very well about Ahmadi beliefs, as he went to the Ahmadi mosque in London and announced his return at an Eid party organised there by Maulana Abdur Rahim Dard, imam of the Ahmadiyya mosque in London. Maybe do some research before passing yourself off as an expert.

And yes, failure to hold an objective discussion, failure to discuss all merits and cons of the subject, and then passing judgement on it with half concocted facts and misinformation makes one a person of low mental faculty.

I am nobody to pass judgments and live the conspiracies, on the contrary I just put forwarded the points why the Ahmadis were proclaimed as non-Muslims and this is for obvious reasons, this judgement was passed in the Apex assembly in 1974 by none other than Bhutto govt...


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The resolution in this regard was placed before the Assembly which was passed almost unanimously. An amendment called the Second Amendment was brought out and on September 7, 1974, Ahmadis were declared non-Muslims. For the first time the parliament passed Judgement on the beliefs of a community and declared it non-Muslim.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@Pluralist

You do agree that Mirzais were declared non-Muslims by a man made Parliament, which means that in due course another man made Parliament can again declare them Muslim.

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[BHarwana]

why should I answer to such an irrelevant question at first place ?

Where is the talent of Atif Mian? This is a valid question of all. Every one is saying very very talented then show talent. What is his experience post one. He is a teacher and journalist he belongs in education department not economic advisory.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@BHarwana

What is IK's experience in governance? His expertise is in cricket and perhaps running a hospital. He should be the sports minister or health minister, by your logic!

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[BHarwana]

@BHarwana

What is IK's experience in governance? His expertise is in cricket and perhaps running a hospital. He should be the sports minister or health minister, by your logic!

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He has governed a whole providence for 5 years.

He governed a whole halqa for 20 years and done it successfully. Now tell me Atif Mian and his talent?

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@BHarwana

IK was the CM of KPK?

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[BHarwana]

He made a third biggest party in Pakistan with most support now what has Atif Mian done?

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@BHarwana

Atif mian has written many papers on economics. And Atif mian is only an economic adviser; IK is a PM.

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[BHarwana]

@BHarwana

IK was the CM of KPK?

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Nope he was not but he appointed CM KPK so?

Tell me what is Atif Mian he is just a blogger like me and nothing more. What is his talent? Why he should be given the post?

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Where is the talent of Atif Mian? This is a valid question of all. Every one is saying very very talented then show talent. What is his experience post one. He is a teacher and journalist he belongs in education department not economic advisory.

Professor of top economics schools in the world itself a something to reckon. He did his PHD from MIT, not many genius of a guy, has this privilege. In short, he knows every ABCD of economics. Most of such people usually work as consultant positions for an year or two or for a single project and move on to other assignments while they remain professors through out their lives. Now if you think, required experience for any Pakistani adviser should be minimum 'minister-ship' than lets leave the topic here.

 

[BHarwana]

@BHarwana

Atif mian has written many papers on economics. And Atif mian is only an economic adviser; IK is a PM.

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What papers just 26. I have written more threads than him here on PDF. So should I be the advisor? Lol. Strange logic.
He is not an economist but an economic teacher in a third grade institute.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

from wiki,

House of Debt
Atif is the author of the critically acclaimed book[5] House of Debt (with Amir Sufi, University of Chicago Press, 2014).[6][7] The book explains how debt helped cause the Great Recession - not failing banks, as the Bush and Obama administrations had wrongfully diagnosed. It was shortlisted for the Financial Times Business Book Of The Year, and won The Gordon J. Laing Prize of the University of Chicago Press.[3]

not enough credentials for Bharwana i suppose.