Rape victims suffer in silence after Hindu - Muslim riots in India

[EyelessInGaza]

The culprit may include ur president to be .

Asif Ali Zardari is not the Indian President to be.

 

[Spring Onion]

That will be a fatal step. The day they create a Muslim party at an All - India level, expect massive consolidation of Hindu votes in favour of an overtly fundamentalist Hindu party and extinction of Muslim vote bank power.

Means Muslims are NOT accepted as Indian Citizens still.

India has every business to make common cause against an enemy. But unlike Pakistan, we always retain our sovereignty and perception of national interest while dealing with western powers.

You don't have anything to play as strategic card hence you are still safe and far from western/American proxies though Chinese Economic rise is already making inroads for such proxies in coming period.

As far as Indian business is concerned this is the front where Western Interests and fear of losing economy can separate your ways on so -called common cause. You had already felt just tip of the iceberg in shape of recent currency fall.

 

[Sashan]

Think tanks are used to spread panic/pysops.

Anyway lets wait and see.



They are NOT even a bunch of rowdies. These Muslims needs to assert their vote bank power and get united. Get an own strong political party instead of baking on Congress and BJP/Saffronis.


Till then they should learn how to get maximum benefit by wisely using their vote.



I always find it funny when Indians try to club themselves with West and other powers to look important.

Anyway the fact is the moment west/US sees you as competitor or a country that wish to surpass them or even catch them up they will throw you off their shoulders.

World/geo politics is not static everyone knows that.


As far as 71 is concerned the ethnic card is too dangerous to play you are having one in your country too. But despite that Bangladesh is a Muslim country and India is now considering it a sordid boon.

A slight correction - banking on Congress and Congress alone at the federal level. The irony is BJP is the only one which is standing on the plank of development while Congress is banking on the fear factor of the minorities for the next year's elections.

And regarding the ethnic card part, even if India has multiple ethnic groups the difference is India makes concessions and compromises with its different ethnic groups and buys peace which is not the case with Pakistan - else 71 would not have happened.

 

[Partharjun]

Means Muslims are NOT accepted as Indian Citizens still.


You don't have anything to play as strategic card hence you are still safe and far from western/American proxies though Chinese Economic rise is already making inroads for such proxies in coming period.

As far as Indian business is concerned this is the front where Western Interests and fear of losing economy can separate your ways on so -called common cause. You had already felt just tip of the iceberg in shape of recent currency fall.

Because of the legacy of partition, a Muslim party will never be acceptable in India. Since Muslims had a choice to migrate to an Islamic country, those remaining behind are assumed to have subordinated their religious beliefs to Indian national identity. And Indian Muslims too are very careful to cultivate this image.

 

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A slight correction - banking on Congress and Congress alone at the federal level. The irony is BJP is the only one which is standing on the plank of development while Congress is banking on the fear factor of the minorities for the next year's elections.

And regarding the ethnic card part, even if India has multiple ethnic groups the difference is India makes concessions and compromises with its different ethnic groups and buys peace which is not the case with Pakistan - else 71 would not have happened.

1. Muslims can not bank on any of these Hindu parties. They are too afraid to bring Muslims into mainstream Indian politics hence Muslims have to get united and work for getting to higher level of govt structure not the symbolic president seat.


As far as Pakistan is concerned more than ethnic card the territory was supposed to be a weak supply route and many other important factors including Indian State terrorism much before the war.

Still today India finds Bangladesh a big headache. After playing ethnic card NOW India is trying to play Religious card in Bangladesh but does NOT like the same for Own Muslim majority

 

[INDIC]

They are NOT even a bunch of rowdies. These Muslims needs to assert their vote bank power and get united. Get an own strong political party instead of baking on Congress and BJP/Saffronis..

As usual a Pakistani can't stop his obsession with Indian Muslims.

As far as 71 is concerned the ethnic card is too dangerous to play you are having one in your country too. But despite that Bangladesh is a Muslim country and India is now considering it a sordid boon.

Pakistanis think themselves belonging to different unrelated races sharing a common religion, but that's not the case with Indians.

 

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1. Because of the legacy of partition, a Muslim party will never be acceptable in India. Since Muslims had a choice to migrate to an Islamic country, 2. those remaining behind are assumed to have subordinated their religious beliefs to Indian national identity. 3. And Indian Muslims too are very careful to cultivate this image.

Ahhhhh the fact indeed.


But very very unfortunate that Hindu Indians like you do NOT accept these Muslims as Indians just because of Partition despite the FACT that these Indian Muslims decided to side with India.

2. Indeed a fact that for getting themselves recognized as Indians, The Muslims will have to adopt Hinduism aka Indian National Identity.

3. Still they have to be careful? you mean they have to ensure bowing down to idols in front of flashing cameras to prove

 

[EMERCOM]

Because of the legacy of partition, a Muslim party will never be acceptable in India. Since Muslims had a choice to migrate to an Islamic country, those remaining behind are assumed to have subordinated their religious beliefs to Indian national identity. And Indian Muslims too are very careful to cultivate this image.

is it not obvious..

These people voted for partition and independence and yet did not leave.We allow deobandi scum to flourish here.Those scumbags should be sent to pakistan on a one way ticket.

They can put their ummah tent in pakistan. If you want to live in india be sufi or ahmaddiya.Shariatis are not welcome.

 

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As usual a Pakistani can't stop his obsession with Indian Muslims.

The thread is about Indian Muslims raped by Indian Hindus.

What do you expect I should talk about? aliens ?

Pakistanis think themselves belonging to different unrelated races sharing a common religion, but that's not the case with Indians.

The problem with Indian Hindus is that when it comes to nationality they want Indian Muslims to pose as Hindus .

 

[EMERCOM]

Ahhhhh the fact indeed.


But very very unfortunate that Hindu Indians like you do NOT accept these Muslims as Indians just because of Partition despite the FACT that these Indian Muslims decided to side with India.

2. Indeed a fact that for getting themselves recognized as Indians, The Muslims will have to adopt Hinduism aka Indian National Identity.

3. Still they have to be careful? you mean they have to ensure bowing down to idols in front of flashing cameras to prove

Still they have to be careful? you mean they have to ensure bowing down to idols in front of flashing cameras to prove

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/centra...hindu-muslim-riots-india-5.html#ixzz2hOIP6a6s

2. Indeed a fact that for getting themselves recognized as Indians, The Muslims will have to adopt Hinduism aka Indian National Identity.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/centra...hindu-muslim-riots-india-5.html#ixzz2hOIV2U9H

Sufis and ahmaddiya are fine.Sunnis,ahle hades ,wahabbi ,deobandi ,hanafi can go to pakistan and pitch their ummah tent.

 

[Spring Onion]

is it not obvious..

These people voted for partition and independence and yet did not leave.We allow deobandi scum to flourish here.Those scumbags should be sent to pakistan on a one way ticket.

lolzz was there referendum for partition ?

BTW your deobandi scum did not vote for Pakistan. So keep your scum within your border.

They can put their ummah tent in pakistan. If you want to live in india be sufi or ahmaddiya.Shariatis are not welcome.

So Muslims in India have no free choice. sickularism ?

Sufis and ahmaddiya are fine.Sunnis,ahle hades ,wahabbi ,deobandi ,hanafi can go to pakistan and pitch their ummah tent.

Why don't you extremist Hindus drive them out ???

 

[EMERCOM]

If you read up various Geo politic think thanks, you will learn that it is Pakistan which is certain to be partitioned in coming years.

Muslims in India are simply a bunch of rowdies with no organized power. The Partition of the subcontinent was a brilliant plan - for it has hopelessly divided the Muslims while concentrating the Hindus. The Western, Jewish and Indian interests converge in seeing further division of the Muslim population into smaller and smaller countries. Islam has utterly failed as a politically unifying force which is why the entire Muslim world is in a political ferment.

In the Subcontinent, the process started in 1971, and will continue in its trajectory.

Western and jewish interests also want India balkanized.

Want to keep muslims in line.Then be firm and strong instead of pandering to vote bankism.

 

[Sashan]

1. Muslims can not bank on any of these Hindu parties. They are too afraid to bring Muslims into mainstream Indian politics hence Muslims have to get united and work for getting to higher level of govt structure not the symbolic president seat.


As far as Pakistan is concerned more than ethnic card the territory was supposed to be a weak supply route and many other important factors including Indian State terrorism much before the war.

Still today India finds Bangladesh a big headache. After playing ethnic card NOW India is trying to play Religious card in Bangladesh but does NOT like the same for Own Muslim majority

It is muslims themselves who does not want to join mainstream politics and the supposedly secular parties does not help the situation as well. For example, the Congress shunned muslim leaders like Mohammed Arif Khan in 1980s who had a forward thinking regarding muslim laws and instead pandered to the fundamentalists. Remember Hindu parties are mainly supported by educated middleclass and the hindutva supporters rather make up a small percentage unlike the perception which exists here.

As to the above highlighted, ofcourse Bangladesh is a headache but not so much as East Pakistan. Imagine a situation now with a powerful China in the North and an East Pakistan, India always would be sitting on the fear of a North-East India being detached easily or Pakistan attacking India in a Hammer and Anvil form from West/East Pakistan. Now the fear of a three front war is gone right?

 

[EMERCOM]

lolzz was there referendum for partition ?

BTW your deobandi scum did not vote for Pakistan. So keep your scum within your border.



So Muslims in India have no free choice. sickularism
Why don't you extremist Hindus drive them out ???

If muslims continue instigating riots,muslims will be driven out...

 

[Partharjun]

Ahhhhh the fact indeed.


But very very unfortunate that Hindu Indians like you do NOT accept these Muslims as Indians just because of Partition despite the FACT that these Indian Muslims decided to side with India.

2. Indeed a fact that for getting themselves recognized as Indians, The Muslims will have to adopt Hinduism aka Indian National Identity.

3. Still they have to be careful? you mean they have to ensure bowing down to idols in front of flashing cameras to prove

Why the surprise?? In a largely secular polity, overt religious parties do not get support.

As for acceptance, Muslims will be accepted as long as they subordinate their religious beliefs to Indian nationalism. Their acceptability has been dented in recent times precisely because of rising fundamentalism. If, in your opinion, Indian nationalism largely corresponds with Hindu ethos, then so be it. Its a historical product. India cannot accept people who are not nationalistic. If their feeling of being a distinct nation is overwhelming, 1947 was the time to exercise a choice. Their forefathers must have understood that after division, India will be largely Hindu with a severe diminution of Muslim power and culture. They made a free choice.

In fact, for their predicament of making a choice, it was the Muslim League which was responsible. None else.