PTM recieved funding from US state department

[Winchester]

"I understand that this is a relationship that has emerged probably for, in their view, good reasons a decade ago, but now that relationship has to be altered because if they're not careful, Pakistan is going to lose control of their own country"

Rex Tillerson ( Secretary of State)

 

[Musafir117]

Wo tou “ sab “ Leyte hain @Zibago
What’s new in it

 

[Zibago]

Wo tou “ sab “ Leyte hain @Zibago

Jano aik pappi idhar
https://www.dawn.com/news/1085920
Aik pappi udhar

https://twitter.com/x/status/1133381459203502082

 

[VCheng]

Does anyone remember what happened in East Pakistan in the late sixties? Security operations created enough animosities in the local population that they began to organize and things gradually flared up beyond control.

Sound familiar?

 

[nahtanbob]

"I understand that this is a relationship that has emerged probably for, in their view, good reasons a decade ago, but now that relationship has to be altered because if they're not careful, Pakistan is going to lose control of their own country"

Rex Tillerson ( Secretary of State)

what is the context of the quote ?

The thing with USA is that they have biting off more than they can chew. Their stupidity has united Iran, China, Russia and Pakistan. Something that was inconceivable not so long ago. It is not so hard to imagine what was being said and done when the spy chiefs of these nations were meeting in Islamabad.

the last time I checked Trump and Putin were poodles

China is busy fighting a trade war with Trump

 

[IceCold]

NED is a private foundation and has nothing to do with the Department of State. It gets congressional grants like many other charitable foundations, but it is not a government agency. The title is clearly false and malicious.

Please don't try to justify it or should I say cover it up behind technicalities. You and I both know where the money is coming from and for what purpose? Merely saying it has nothing to do with the department of state is dishonesty on your behalf. You still bear Pakistan flag partially, the least you can do is to call spade a spade and hold your US government accountable.

 

[VCheng]

what is the context of the quote ?

https://epaper.dawn.com/DetailImage.php?StoryImage=15_12_2017_016_002

Pakistan could lose territory to terrorists: US

By Anwar Iqbal | 12/15/2017 12:00:00 AM
WASHINGTON: Shifting between soft persuasions and tough advice, the United States is now saying that Pakistan could lose control of its territory if it does not sever ties with the Haqqanis and other terrorists.

US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson who issued the advice at a Washington think-tank earlier this weel( also said the militants who were focusing on Kabul might one day decide that Islamabad was a better target.

The warning followed a Pentagon statement, which said the new US strategy for Afghanistan had `fundamentally changed the battlefield in favour of Afghan national security forces` and the Taliban militants were now on the retreat.

And this change happened because the new strategy made it clear that US forces would stay in Afghanistan for as long as it took to stabilise the country and also because it gave American troops more power to confront the enemy, the Pentagon added.

The two statements follow the Trump administration`s repeated calls to Pakistan to do more to destroy the alleged safe havens that Afghan militants still retain in parts of the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (Fata), a charge Islamabad strongly denies.

`Pakistan has allowed so many terrorist organisations to hnd safe haven within its territories, and these organisations are growing in size and influence, that at some point I have said to the leadership of Pakistan, you may be the target, and they turn their attention from Kabul and decide they like Islamabad as a target better,Secretary Tillerson said.

In his remarks on `Meeting the foreign policy challenges of 2017 and beyond` organised by the 2017 Atlantic Council-Korea Foundation Forum, Mr Tillerson said that Pakistan`s relationship with the Haqqani network needed to be altered. `I understand that this is a relationship that has emerged probably for, in their view, good reasons a decade ago, but now that relationship has to be altered because if they`re not careful, Pakistan is going to lose control of their own country,` he said.

The top US diplomat assured Pakistan that Washington wanted to work with Islamabad to `stamp out terrorism within their boundaries` but Pakistan had to `begin the process` by changing its relationship with the Haqqani network and with others.

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Anybody remember what Sec Clinton said about raising snakes in the backyard?

 

[B.K.N]

Does anyone remember what happened in East Pakistan in the late sixties? Security operations created enough animosities in the local population that they began to organize and things gradually flared up beyond control.

Sound familiar?

East Pakistan and this issue is not same east Pakistan was thousand miles away from Pakistan with a much stronger enemy in between
these two territories were not even connected via air or sea Pakistan was dependent on India for even to connect to East Pakistan
stop comparing this to Bangladesh

 

[Zibago]

Does anyone remember what happened in East Pakistan in the late sixties? Security operations created enough animosities in the local population that they began to organize and things gradually flared up beyond control.

1)Nukes
2)Pashtun mandate for pti
3)No land barrier
4)Not much support for pti among pashtun masses

 

[VCheng]

1)Nukes
2)Pashtun mandate for pti
3)No land barrier
4)Not much support for pti among pashtun masses

(1) Security operations created (2) enough animosities in the local population that (3) they began to organize and (4) things gradually flared up beyond control.

1, 2, and 3 are already there. 4 is unknown at this point.

 

[Zibago]

(1) Security operations created

Heave ceased

(2) enough animosities in the local population that

Not present as this group had to rely on Afghani refugees

they began to organize and

Wait till fata election and see where they stand

(4) things gradually flared up beyond control.

Haha there was a time when taliban controlled most of fata that was the time things were out of control now they are not

 

[VCheng]

Heave ceased

Not present as this group had to rely on Afghani refugees

Wait till fata election and see where they stand

Haha there was a time when taliban controlled most of fata that was the time things were out of control now they are not

Let us wait and see how things evolve in the region.

 

[Zibago]

Let us wait and see how things evolve in the region.

Well PTI already has 2/3rd majority in that region and it is going hard against ptm
You know ethnic grievance bs is hard to sell when half the cabinet in Pashtun

 

[B.K.N]

(1) Security operations created (2) enough animosities in the local population that (3) they began to organize and (4) things gradually flared up beyond control.

1, 2, and 3 are already there. 4 is unknown at this point.

Do you really believe pashtun regions of Pakistan can become an independent country like Bangladesh or just pretend to be an idiot

 

[Baghial]

Any political party that takes money from foreign governments should be disqualified and disbanded. This is a threat to national security.

there will be not a single party left in pakistan............who does not take money from foreign country-------


saudia is most generous ... when it comes to support, spread,and cultivate its own religion,(ibn Abd al-Wahhab) around the muslim , n non muslim world,..

the seeds of extremeism are manufactured and transported by help of its armies every where in world.