President Ghani to Taliban: If you love Afghanistan, promise me you will not accept Durand line as border with Pak

[Varunastra]

So with that logic, present day Afghanistan was part of Mughal empire before Duranis, does that mean we have a right to rule Afghanistan from takht e lahore?
BTW It was called Durrani empire not officially called Afghanistan till 1823 when Dost Muhmmad formed the emirates. Heck even Ahmed Shah Durrani never called himself an Afghan. Read his biography. He actually fought and conquered present day Afghanistan shahrukh ,khiljis, ayub khan etc..He was son of this soil the Pakistani soil..he was born in Multan .He died in Toba Achakzai(Pakistan), all his sons are buried here. Besides Kandhar and Kabul they made Peshawar the capital of Durrani empire. Read about the qila bala hisar. Ahmed Shah Abdali is Pakistans hero as much as he is of Afghans. One of our missile is named after him.He was called by the great saint to rescue Muslims of Delhi..you get the hint and parallels why the missile was named after him?
You are deeply mistaken and you are going into a wrong territory that you know nothing about.

As for ancestors i went deep enough i found they had religions even before vedics. .i found vedic religion was an out of subcontinent thing and had nothing to do with your hinduism that was born later. But lets not derail the thread here ,if you have questions on this refer to the thread where we discussed this.

Well you may as well think whose stopping you. Don't many Pakistanis claim Delhi based on that even though they have nothing to do with Mughals who were Turco Mongols.
Durrani empire, mughal empire are examples, you expect a government to raise pride and patriotism by giving the hard facts. Durranis had capitals in mainly Afghan places, the fact that Peshawar was a capital is even more reason for an Afghan to claim the western provinces of Pakistan. Naming missiles won't change what Afghans think.
About vedic culture and Hinduism, you can't say that knowing we still study and revere the Vedas and Upanishads now can you?

 

[ziaulislam]

You think they aren't trying already? There is just no official declaration of war

Just say that infront of an Afghans face. No wonder there are so many Afghan Pakistani fist fights nowadays.

Best way to do that to offical surrnder to pakistan.

Then they can be part of pakistan
However, tajiks and uzbeks dont want what afghans want..

So first tajiks and uzbeks should join the sourrounding countries then the afghans can think about joining us. Since these days twice
Amount of pushtoons live in pakistan then afghanistan and have their own majority federal unit
PS. Since you are an indian..afghan is synonmous word to pushtoons who live in afghanistan(and even some pakistani pushtoons use it)

So far people of afghanistan havent come up with a word that would represent them since biden said it..they never been a single country

 

[Varunastra]

Say that to an Afghan's face? Haha
Punjabis literally captured KPK and former FATA from them and even fenced the whole Durand line what exactly Afghans have done about it?

Kabul regime is gasping on her last legs precisely for this reason of harboring terrorist against Pakistan since its inception. They are welcome to try whatever they want.

Not denying any. My post is a mirror of how Afghan pride doesn't gel well with Pakistan's territorial boundaries, especially if someone disputes their historical pride.

 

[ziaulislam]

Talking Just the minimal history a person can be taught in school. Such education is heavily controlled by the government to instill pride and patriotism. Yes go too deep and you might end up realising your ancestors were Hindu /Buddhist but no government will allow that atleast not in detail.
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Durrani empire, quite recent in the grand scale of things. What will an Afghan think when he reads about it? Will he not think about lands lost, especially when he learns similar people as them still live there but answer to people in Islamabad?

Did you open the mughal empire map
What will pakistan think about india

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Well you may as well think whose stopping you. Don't many Pakistanis claim Delhi based on that even though they have nothing to do with Mughals who were Turco Mongols.
Durrani empire, mughal empire are examples, you expect a government to raise pride and patriotism by giving the hard facts. Durranis had capitals in mainly Afghan places, the fact that Peshawar was a capital is even more reason for an Afghan to claim the western provinces of Pakistan. Naming missiles won't change what Afghans think.
About vedic culture and Hinduism, you can't say that knowing we still study and revere the Vedas and Upanishads now can you?

What capitals in Afghanistan? Can you post the links to the evidence?

Not denying any. My post is a mirror of how Afghan pride doesn't gel well with Pakistan's territorial boundaries, especially if someone disputes their historical pride.

What do gangus who have NOTHING in common with Afghans know about their pride? Gangus also claimed that the americans would NEVER EVER leave afghanistan............

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

Afghanistan and Afghans depend ENTIRELY on Pakistan for it's survival.........

Not anymore. Afghanistan will become self-reliant as USA, China, and India will rebuild Afghanistan. @SecularNationalist

- PRTP GWD

 

[Varunastra]

What capitals in Afghanistan? Can you post the links to the evidence?

Blitzkrieg can provide the same, it's a known fact.

 

[ziaulislam]

The Durand line question is cause to many problems on both sides. Afghanistan cannot feed it's own children nor provide basic services. Better to recognise the border and start cooperating with Pakistan on economic development, tourism, trade etc.

Basically afghanistan is ruined due to two simple reasons
1. Not able to find a name for their country(clearly shouldnt be afghanistan as tajiks and uzbeks dont like word afghani used on passport..you need a nationlistic word that can bring together everyone..hell may be kurasaan; the ISIS term)

2. Durand line...
This like pakistan insisting to fight china on boarder issues or for us sending troops now to bengaldesh
Do people in peshawar want to be free and join afghanistan? No.
So end of story.

Because of these two problems afghans first invited russians
Then they fought pakistan with help of india /afghan proxies (2002-2020)

And we see where we are at

Had this been not an issue afghans would not have

 

[Varunastra]

Did you open the mughal empire map
What will pakistan think about india

Check my next posts

 

[ziaulislam]

If kashmiris today decide we want to join india. Pakistanis will becak off from supporting them just like we did with bengladesh

 

[Vapnope]

Not denying any. My post is a mirror of how Afghan pride doesn't gel well with Pakistan's territorial boundaries, especially if someone disputes their historical pride.

This is a known fact that Afghans don't accept Durand line. This is precisely the reason that Pakistan had to bomb their village in 50s because they started hosting terrorist who were attacking Pakistani LEAs. My point is that Afghanistan has lost everything in their claims of capturing KPK and will continue to pay if they continued this fetish.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Well you may as well think whose stopping you. Don't many Pakistanis claim Delhi based on that even though they have nothing to do with Mughals who were Turco Mongols.
Durrani empire, mughal empire are examples, you expect a government to raise pride and patriotism by giving the hard facts. Durranis had capitals in mainly Afghan places, the fact that Peshawar was a capital is even more reason for an Afghan to claim the western provinces of Pakistan. Naming missiles won't change what Afghans think.
About vedic culture and Hinduism, you can't say that knowing we still study and revere the Vedas and Upanishads now can you?

Turco mongols intermarried with local sindhis jats khokhars rajputs and pashtuns. Pakistani culture is Mughal culture. Our dress, food, music etc. is essentially Mughal..
You have no idea how many duranis live in south punjab and sindh..a crook durrani is these days speaker of sindh assembly ..he calls himself sindhi. Duranis have assimilated wherever they lived in Pakistan.
BTW Peshawar was never Pashtun city before thirteenth century. again you forget what i said above.. Duraani empire fonder never called himself afghan period

 

[Varunastra]

This is a known fact that Afghans don't accept Durand line. This is precisely the reason that Pakistan had to bomb their village in 50s because they started hosting terrorist who were attacking Pakistani LEAs. My point is that Afghanistan has lost everything in their claims of capturing KPK and will continue to pay if they continued this fetish.

And so the cold conflict brews on.

 

[Vapnope]

And so the cold conflict brews on.

The question is, can Afghanistan sustain the hostility now when China is actively expanding her influence in the region and would provide all kind of support to Pakistan if the need arises.

Afghanistan has very dark days ahead if Taliban and Kabul regime do not agree on a power sharing formula. This would be uglier than 2003.

 

[GHALIB]

If kashmiris today decide we want to join india. Pakistanis will becak off from supporting them just like we did with bengladesh

Okay
We dont care. You do as you were doing.