Possible steps to counter the rising threat from IAF ?

[temp1994]

No, are you kidding me?

How come?

Bangalore is 2351 Km away from Islamabad and Chennai is 2407 Km away. It is out of F-16's reach even in clean configuration.

F-16's combat radius is 550 Km ( this is in air interdiction mode. In ground attack mode, an aircraft burn 25% fuel in takeoff). How could you attack a city 2500 Km away even on a one way mission with a plane capable of going 1100Km max( one way mission).

 

[PakGuns]

People here are forgetting that before PAF planes trying to cross border to reach south india, IAF would be coming back from raids to lahore and karachi. In their dreams also PAF cannot fly past MP let alone southern states. Fighter planes based at Gwalior AFB alone is more than enough to decimate entire PAF.

ohhhh...

 

[Abingdonboy]

Everybody is talking about Su-30, Rafale, Mig-29, Mig-21, Mirage, Jags etc. Why are you people ignoring LCA Tejas? It might not be top notch fighter. IAF is inducting 50 of these jets[correct me if wrong] which can pose a serious threat to PAF.

40 Mk.1s, 200+ Mk.2s.

 

[PakGuns]

How come?

Bangalore is 2351 Km away from Islamabad and Chennai is 2407 Km away. It is out of F-16's reach even in clean configuration.

F-16's combat radius is 550 Km ( this is in air interdiction mode. In ground attack mode, an aircraft burn 25% extra fuel in takeoff). How could it attack a city 2500 Km away even on a one way mission with a plane capable of going 1100Km max( one way mission).

interesting,,,,,,

 

[StormShadow]

40 Mk.1s, 200+ Mk.2s.

Wow...that is a much more serious threat than I thought!!!
Again the question...why is everybody ignoring the tejas.
Multi mode radar, digital FBW system, HMS, Mayavi EW suite, a wide range of missiles etc etc is not a thing which you can ignore!

 

[thrilainmanila]

i keep on reading about purchasing second hand F-16s. This has to be the biggest myths people have been speaking, the PAF will never get anymore F-16s. The blk-15s from jordan were the most Basic of F-16s. The europeans or any other country will refuse to sell F-16s to Pakistan. People don't understand how much of a riot the indian lobbies cause, they've criticised china for providing JF-17s to pakistan, The indian congress believes pakistan shouldn't have a military capability even if its for the sake of self defence. They've gone as far as asking the US to keep a watch and limit the operational hours of PAFs F-16s, you honestly think if PAF wanted a large number of F-16s the indians wouldn't have a cry about it?

 

[ziaulislam]

How come?

Bangalore is 2351 Km away from Islamabad and Chennai is 2407 Km away. It is out of F-16's reach even in clean configuration.

F-16's combat radius is 550 Km ( this is in air interdiction mode. In ground attack mode, an aircraft burn 25% fuel in takeoff). How could you attack a city 2500 Km away even on a one way mission with a plane capable of going 1100Km max( one way mission).

actually you are insanely wrong, Bangalore is 1600 km from karachi airport while chennai is 1700 km from airport in badin
infact banglore is less than 1500 from badin airport base. now i am not factoring in stand off weapons

f-16 range with maximum pay load and no fuel pods is 550km but that is configuration never used . conformational fuel tanks and decent load will make it very easy for f-16 to cover 1600+km

 

[temp1994]

actually you are insanely wrong, Bangalore is 1600 km from karachi airport while chennai is 1700 km from airport in badin
infact banglore is less than 1400 from badin airport base. now i am not factoring in stand off weapons

How?

I calculated from Islamabad airport.

And even from Badin, your F-16's could not bomb these cities even on a one way mission.

 

[ziaulislam]

How?

I calculated from Islamabad airport.

And even from Badin, your F-16's could not bomb these cities even on a one way mission.

i have already answered, and why islamabad, or is f-16 only restricted islamabad or do you think like in indian movies only islamabad has an airport

 

[ziaulislam]

What is your point?

F-16's combat Radius is 550 Km. Even on a one way mission, it could not go farther than 1100 Km.

Your F-16 is useless against South Indian cities even from Badin.

did you even read what i pointed out

f-16 range without conformational fuel tank is 550 km with maximum load, 1/3 the load say 2 1000 pounds instead of full 6 and add a few AIM-120s it will easily cover the 1500km flight. even without it extra conformational fuel tanks

now add conformational fuel tanks which extend range by twice even with 4-5 1000lb load it can hit banglore with stand off weapons

 

[rockstarIN]

did you even read what i pointed out

f-16 range without conformational fuel tank is 550 km with maximum load, 1/3 the load say 2 1000 pounds instead of full 6 and add a few AIM-120s it will easily cover the 1500km flight. even without it extra conformational fuel tanks

now add conformational fuel tanks which extend range by twice even with 4-5 1000lb load it can hit banglore with stand off weapons

With all those you mentioned above and you are a sitting duck at the entrance of Indian skies, else jettison everything and fly back when the radar tracking alarm buzzing.

 

[temp1994]

did you even read what i pointed out

f-16 range without conformational fuel tank is 550 km with maximum load, 1/3 the load say 2 1000 pounds instead of full 6 and add a few AIM-120s it will easily cover the 1500km flight. even without it extra conformational fuel tanks

now add conformational fuel tanks which extend range by twice even with 4-5 1000lb load it can hit banglore with stand off weapons

Combat radius of 550Km is with payload of 1800Kg. Max payload of F-16 is 8000 Kg.

If you add CFT's, it adds weight + it takes up pods on which weapon load could be attached.

It is better to as whether it is possible for F-16 to strike 1300 Km away with appreciable payload from knowledgeable members.

@Abingdonboy @sancho @gambit @sandy_3126

 

[45'22']

actually you are insanely wrong, Bangalore is 1600 km from karachi airport while chennai is 1700 km from airport in badin
infact banglore is less than 1500 from badin airport base. now i am not factoring in stand off weapons

f-16 range with maximum pay load and no fuel pods is 550km but that is configuration never used . conformational fuel tanks and decent load will make it very easy for f-16 to cover 1600+km

Google maps say. . The first distance is 2274km ,the second one is 2294km
and the third one being 2093 km

 

[ziaulislam]

Without fuel pods, but with minimum payload.

Combat radius is calculated for Air Patrols, where an Aircraft is armed with Air-to-Air missiles only. Calculating it for ground attak mode would reduce it even further as a plane in ground attack mode burns 25% of it's fuel during takeoff.

oh GOD,
ok lets take a practical case, fully loaded f-16 with no conformational fuel tanks were able to bomb a iraqi reactor covering 1600kms. just read about it.
even though they flew lower in order to avoid radar detection. with arch flight.!

 

[ziaulislam]

Google maps say. . The first distance is 2274km ,the second one is 2294km
and the third one being 2093 km

and use google earth, you are not driving a car