Possible Solution to the Kashmir Issue

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

The terrorism is within few pockets

What do you mean by terrorism, its a freedom struggle from Indian occupation.

 

[IsThisNameAvailable]

What do you mean by terrorism, its a freedom struggle from Indian occupation.

Sure. Many such "freedom fighters" are there not only in your country but across the world

On our side, we are continuously giving "freedom" to the many from K-valley and will continue to do so.

But, should Jammu & Ladakh be made to suffer due to "guilt by association" with K-valley? What is your opinion on that?

 

[Chhatrapati]

Kargil is in Ladakh which is already out of J&K.

I know. What I am saying is the thought process that might have went through when art 370 was removed.

Total 3 UTs, Jammu, Kashmir & Ladakh. The terrorism is within few pockets of the K-valley and entire J&K was suffering. Now Ladakh is happy. Jammu should be made similarly happy. Though highly unlikely, when Jammu & Ladakh progress, sense will dawn on K-valley also.

The state was divided to give more attention to Kargil and Ladakh. Jammu and Kashmir if divided will become a bureaucratic mess and it's a pointless exercise. There is no point in keeping Kashmir as a separate entity out of Jammu and making a connection to all "happy" regions. We cannot also deny parliamentary democracy to the state. There must be an election, a legislature much like Delhi with law and order under the central government.

 

[IsThisNameAvailable]

I know. What I am saying is the thought process that might have went through when art 370 was removed.


The state was divided to give more attention to Kargil and Ladakh. Jammu and Kashmir if divided will become a bureaucratic mess and it's a pointless exercise. There is no point in keeping Kashmir as a separate entity out of Jammu and making a connection to all "happy" regions. We cannot also deny parliamentary democracy to the state. There must be an election, a legislature much like Delhi with law and order under the central government.

Elections will happen sooner or later. No other country in the world has a democracy as strong (at times even extreme) as India.

But first, show no mercy, no sympathy, no leniency to anti India elements.
No ifs&buts.
Make it clear that you are either with us or against us.
If a terrorist is found inside a house, a village, a town, make them all guilty by association.
A terrorist cannot hide in a house for long without the direct/indirect support of those around him.
Give them a clear message that do NOT mistake us for fools.
They have fooled not only us but are fooling the entire world.
The world may take its own sweet time to wake-up, we need not.

 

[Prince Kassad]

Ib is the only solution

 

[Pakistansdefender]

Pakistan and India are fighting from decades over Kashmir. Every one knows that this issue effects badly to the economies of both Pakistan and India. Both countries are spending billions and billions dollars to strengthen their defence line. Due to this unnecessary expenditure; the citizens of both countries are struggling for food and the percentage of suicide and murders is increasing drastically in both countries..
The formula of dividing Kashmir may not be acceptable for Kashmiris and will start a life time protests in Kashmir region. Not Pakistan neither India can get this piece of land by war which may lead to an automatic war and leave no one to rule in the whole region.
The only peaceful solution to this issue is a free and fare plebiscite under United Nations security forces which should be acceptable for Pakistan , India and Kashmiris.

There are two solutions.
Consider the loc as permanent border.
This is one india wants. As liberals pakistani elite. But listening to sacrifices of our people, our founder's message. Sacrifices of local people for kashmir.
It is impossible.
It would bring peace but is like stabbing in the back of those who fought for kashmir and pakistan.

The other is for war.
War needs a narrative in our favour and an economy to support it. No internal issues, everyone is safe anf happy. Borders safe. Neighbourhood settled and then fight for kashmir.
Start now.
Make Pakistan great and its economy huge. Work hard. And in a decade or 2 lobby against india and built a narrative.
And then with the support of the above, attack kashmir and capture it.
There cannot be other then these 2 solutions.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Pakistan and India are fighting from decades over Kashmir. Every one knows that this issue effects badly to the economies of both Pakistan and India. Both countries are spending billions and billions dollars to strengthen their defence line. Due to this unnecessary expenditure; the citizens of both countries are struggling for food and the percentage of suicide and murders is increasing drastically in both countries..
The formula of dividing Kashmir may not be acceptable for Kashmiris and will start a life time protests in Kashmir region. Not Pakistan neither India can get this piece of land by war which may lead to an automatic war and leave no one to rule in the whole region.
The only peaceful solution to this issue is a free and fare plebiscite under United Nations security forces which should be acceptable for Pakistan , India and Kashmiris.

Now war is the only way to solve this dispute. Alhamdulilah it is looking good for us as day by day, india gets weaker, and Pakistan gets stronger.

What do you mean by terrorism, its a freedom struggle from Indian occupation.

They believe all Muslims are terrorists (for not being their slaves and giving up) and Kashmiris cannot live in Kashmir due to conversion to Islam.

They do not accept standard laws of inheritance and they lack the understanding of self-determination.

 

[krash]

Sure. Many such "freedom fighters" are there not only in your country but across the world

On our side, we are continuously giving "freedom" to the many from K-valley and will continue to do so.

But, should Jammu & Ladakh be made to suffer due to "guilt by association" with K-valley? What is your opinion on that?

Yeah....you can repeat that mantra a few more times but it wouldn't make it so or allay your fears of the inevitable. Wouldn't take away the right of the Kashmiris to fight against the occupier as per international law either.

 

[Imran Khan]

very simple solution

LOC as border but valley must be given to pakistan . they will not live with india no matter 1000 modis born and die .

half of the valley is already under pakistan rest is very small area to be given for peace

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Pakistan and India are fighting from decades over Kashmir. Every one knows that this issue effects badly to the economies of both Pakistan and India. Both countries are spending billions and billions dollars to strengthen their defence line. Due to this unnecessary expenditure; the citizens of both countries are struggling for food and the percentage of suicide and murders is increasing drastically in both countries..
The formula of dividing Kashmir may not be acceptable for Kashmiris and will start a life time protests in Kashmir region. Not Pakistan neither India can get this piece of land by war which may lead to an automatic war and leave no one to rule in the whole region.
The only peaceful solution to this issue is a free and fare plebiscite under United Nations security forces which should be acceptable for Pakistan , India and Kashmiris.

Not possible...

UN resolution gets apply to whole j&k including pak and China parts.

UN resolution was not meant for only Kashmir.

Can not apply to India only..

 

[IsThisNameAvailable]

Yeah....you can repeat that mantra a few more times but it wouldn't make it so or allay your fears of the inevitable. Wouldn't take away the right of the Kashmiris to fight against the occupier as per international law either.

Sure, let them fight. Anyone who feels that he/she should fight, should fight. And anyone who feels, that such fighters should shown their place, should show them their place. And anyone who feels like lending "moral support", should do that too.
Even terrorists are fighting for what they feel are their rights, you agree?
Right is very wrongly used now a days. It has become a tool to camouflage lot of things. Never mind.

 

[krash]

Sure, let them fight. Anyone who feels that he/she should fight, should fight. And anyone who feels, that such fighters should shown their place, should show them their place. And anyone who feels like lending "moral support", should do that too.
Even terrorists are fighting for what they feel are their rights, you agree?
Right is very wrongly used now a days. It has become a tool to camouflage lot of things. Never mind.

Standard answer from who a) does not understand the concept of universally/internationally acknowledged "rights" and b) will try anything and everything to deny and dilute those acknowledged rights that go against his own two-bit narrative. It's the victims fault, after all. Transparently disingenuous and dishonest.

 

[IsThisNameAvailable]

Standard answer from who a) does not understand the concept of universally/internationally acknowledged "rights" and b) will try anything and everything to deny and dilute those acknowledged rights that go against his own two-bit narrative. It's the victims fault, after all. Transparently disingenuous and dishonest.

Dont worry about our disingenuousity or dishonesty. We worship false gods anyway (like your ancestors did).

To the point: By "universally/internationally acknowledged rights" u mean "plebiscite for self-determination"? Sorry, but it has many twists & turns. Right on this forum, u will refer such & such treaty / resolution / agreement and Indians will refer some other treaty / resolution / agreement. That argument never ends. We all think our right is right and others' right is left. As an Indian, of-course I will side with India. But I am just trying to make you see both perspectives.

(The thing which both sides will not argue on is: India already gave parts of it to a religion which was foreign to Indian sub-continent. How much more should India give? Perhaps you think much more. Indians think, not an inch more. Once again we have our own perspectives. But, we both should agree that, India should not be the one to give all the time, right? It has to stop sometime. For Indians, that time is now. For you, may be its tomorrow. But you do agree that sometime is the right time for that time, right?)

 

[Iltutmish]

India already gave parts of it to a religion which was foreign to Indian sub-continent.

This is the reason why your country is not a total ..... Be grateful to us Muslims!

 

[IsThisNameAvailable]

Stop worshipping inanimate things then?

Understanding sarcasm or humour is not your strongest point. Better avoid.