PM Modi raises issue of Pakistan-sponsored terror in meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping

[Dubious]

Is there a special school you guys go to for such comprehension; India's statement was construed by you, and you specifically as weakness, not by me.

I think you have comprehension issues...

I said when PMIK walked the same path, he was seen as weakness...So why isnt modi seen as weak now? See simple English is useful in getting the msg across to even those who try to flaunt sophisticated posts

The rationale being then peddled PDF Indians claimed IK's olive branch as weakness, well it was not me.
You base your arguments on what others say, I don't.

They are people from your country who you support with your thanks (yes we have been following those )

I stand here backing my own narrative on my own intellect, not based on what others say. Show me one instance where I have claimed any such thing. The stark difference being, I challenged your words., you can challenge mine.

I am not challenging anything it is just a forum....

Lets give you the benefit of the doubt:
So you dont see it as weakness, but we didnt see you coming to support what IK did or even praise it?...would that have caused you your citizenship or something? Just wondering

 

[MilSpec]

Poor grammar? Really now THAT is remarkably a poor excuse for attacking any member let alone another TT!
@Slav Defence

How is it attacking anyone, you were the one who was justifying poor writing, I am just amused by it.

And when was india going to stop their terror supporting which even few ministers admitted to??

Sure when Indians are blowing them selves up in pakistan and around the world, let us know. We will tackle it.

If they are not interested they wouldnt have returned your pilot! THAT was your olive branch but india has been so used to throwing its weight around like with ICC it thought it could do the same here!

And as soon as that happened there was an end to active hostilities, even a toddler would have understood that.

AND that is exactly what your country cries abt! Meaning it doesnt want peace! Coz it doent want to mend anything as you claimed ...Thank you for proving my point that india doesnt want peace and thus, modi's cry here in OP is exactly that crocodile tears!

Not engaging with Pakistan doesn't give you license to spread terror in India, how is that not clear?

 

[Dubious]

How is it attacking anyone, you were the one who was justifying poor writing, I am just amused by it.

I wasnt justifying it...What I was doing was not highlighting it like you did!

Sure when Indians are blowing them selves up in pakistan and around the world, let us know. We will tackle it.

of course you will by paying for more proxies?

in forum terms:
giving thanks to those who are laughing and trolling against it

And as soon as that happened there was an end to active hostilities, even a toddler would have understood that.

There hasnt been an end coz india is as ungrateful as it always has been!

Not engaging with Pakistan doesn't give you license to spread terror in India, how is that not clear?

What terror? We have bomb blasts everyday as we flush out your proxies! How is it you claim you are doing your part but there is no retaliation? Even in IRAQ/ AFGHANISTAN / IRAN/ USA when they flush out terrorists, there is always retaliation! And no one blames their neighbour like india does!

 

[Dubious]

As I said such lip service, we have seen from Benazir, Sharif, Zardari, what would make IK any different?

That is the problem...You dont even try and then cry! lolz now that is entertaining!

If there are positive steps taken from Pakistan, India responds; at this juncture, your military is not at all interested in peace; without your military's blessing, there is not much your leader can do.

Another assumption...it was the military who released your pilot! He wasnt in civilian custody! He even demanded to be under PA! See even your military knows who to demand for - for a fair chance at survival!

 

[MilSpec]

What terror? We have bomb blasts everyday as we flush out your proxies! How is it you claim you are doing your part but there is no retaliation? Even in IRAQ/ AFGHANISTAN / IRAN/ USA when they flush out terrorists, there is always retaliation! And no one blames their neighbor as India does!

I am sorry to hear you have bomb blasts every day (although I know that's hyperbole) that said, that is a reality your leadership chose for your country by engaging in Afghanistan and breeding this twisted jihadi culture. It's not Indian right wing that is lining up to infiltrate into Pakistan and blow themselves up in market squares and hotels, its the other way around.

Interesting that your say when they flush out terrorists there is retaliation, In Iraq, it's neighboring regional powers such as Syria, Iran Saudi are blamed for supporting insurgent groups, Similarly in Afghanistan, Pakistan is blamed for supporting insurgents, also in India Pakistan is blamed for supporting insurgents. US, I don't know if they have come across any such events.

That is the problem...You dont even try and then cry! lolz now that is entertaining!

We have for a good three decades. You know what they call the act of doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.

Another assumption...it was the military who released your pilot! He wasnt in civilian custody! He even demanded to be under PA! See even your military knows who to demand for - for a fair chance at survival!

Again, thus the hostility stopped.

 

[waz]

The Chinese couldn't give a toss.

 

[Dubious]

I am sorry to hear you have bomb blasts every day (although I know that's hyperbole) that said, that is a reality your leadership chose for your country by engaging in Afghanistan and breeding this twisted jihadi culture.

it is a reality coz we have neighbours who are cant fight openly and allow to use them proxies or they themselves do so!

It's not Indian right wing that is lining up to infiltrate into Pakistan and blow themselves up in market squares and hotels, its the other way around.

is it not?

Interesting that your say when they flush out terrorists there is retaliation, In Iraq, it's neighboring regional powers such as Syria, Iran Saudi are blamed for supporting insurgent groups, Similarly in Afghanistan, Pakistan is blamed for supporting insurgents, also in India Pakistan is blamed for supporting insurgents. US, I don't know if they have come across any such events.

Afghanistan can blame whoever it wishes ...in the end only beneficiary is USA...who extended its stay in the region which neither likes...So who would like USA to stay?

india has been blaming Pakistan even before jihadi whatnot! It is a trick made into a habit! cant teach old dog new tricks!

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

BISHKEK: Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Thursday raised the issue of Pakistan-sponsored terror during his meeting with Chinese PresidentXi Jinpingon the sidelines of theSCO summitand made it clear that Islamabad must take concrete action against terrorism affecting India.

Giving details of the meeting, foreign secretary Vijay Gokhale said "PM Moditold Xi Jinping that Pakistan needs to create atmosphere free of terror and at this stage we do not see this happening."

PM Modi reminded the Chinese president that India has made efforts for peace and these efforts have been derailed. "We expect Pakistan to take concrete action," PM Modi told Xi.
The Prime Minister stated that India's position has been consistent that it wants peaceful relations with Pakistan, the foreign secretary said.

PM Modi's comments came ahead of President Xi's meeting with Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan, who is also here in the Kyrgyz capital to attend the SCO summit.
Imran Khan has twice written to Prime Minister Modi, seeking resumption of dialogue on all issues, including Kashmir.

Responding to Khan's overtures, Prime Minister Modi told his Pakistani counterpart that creating trust and an environment free of violence and terrorism was essential for fostering peace and prosperity in the region.

India has not been engaging with Pakistan since an attack on the Air Force base at Pathankot in January of 2016 by a Pakistan-based terror group, maintaining that talks and terror cannot go together.

PM Modi also invited Xi Jinping to India for the second informal summit, an invitation which the Chinese president accepted.

PM Modi described his meeting with Xi Jinping "extremely fruitful".
"Had an extremely fruitful meeting with President Xi Jinping. Our talks included the full spectrum of India-China relations. We shall continue working together to improve economic and cultural ties between our nations," Modi tweeted after the delegation-level talks with President Xi.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1139146831332564992

The meeting began with President Xi congratulating Prime Minister Modi over his election victory.

"After the election results in India, I got your message, and today again you have wished me on the victory, I am very grateful to you for this," Modi replied.
Xi had extended "heartfelt congratulations" to Prime Minister Modi for winning the Lok Sabha elections last month, in a rare gesture of greeting a foreign leader well before the official announcement of the results.

"On behalf of all Indians, I wish you a very happy birthday," Modi told Xi, greeting the Chinese leader who will turn 66 on June 15.
"As you said, in the days to come, we both can progress on several subjects. We both have a contemporary tenure to work more," he said.

"After our meeting in Wuhan, we have seen a new momentum and stability in our relations. There has been a rapid progress in the strategic communication between the two sides, leading to be more sensitive towards each other's concerns and interests. And there have been new areas for further cooperation since then," Modi told Xi in his opening remarks.
The 2018 Wuhan summit between Prime Minister Modi and President Xi was largely credited to have turned around the bilateral relations soured by the 73-day Doklam standoff, triggered by Chinese troops attempts to build a road close to Indian border in an area also claimed by Bhutan in 2017

After the Wuhan summit, both the countries stepped up efforts to improve relations on different spheres including the military-to-military ties.
The two leaders have met more than 10 times in the last five years, including thrice after their informal summit in Wuhan -- first at the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) summit held in June last in China's Qingdao, the second time at the BRICS summit in South Africa's Johannesburg in July and third time in December last on the sidelines of the G-20 summit in Argentina.

External affairs ministry spokesperson Raveesh Kumar said the two leaders had a warm meeting. "Leaders discussed all aspects of enriching our bilateral relations and recognised the positive role of strategic communication in deepening our partnership," Kumar said.
(With inputs from agencies)


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...president-xi-jinping/articleshow/69774784.cms

Oh so modi going to ask china to not help Pakistan to fight against TTP and terrorism which they expirting thru iran.

 

[-=virus=-]

US, I don't know if they have come across any such events.

They've come across plenty, from Pakistan in to attack NATO forces in Afghanistan.

probably come across it everyday..

 

[Dubious]

Again, thus the hostility stopped.

Did it? india has been repeatedly killing children and women in Kashmir without blinking or even thinking what it is doing is wrong and you think hostility has stopped why have you looked at LOC? it never stopped coz india doesnt want it to stop...Habitual crying...kind of addiction prob...it gets your foot in the door...maybe or it just makes you feel superior when you cry to someone else?

We have for a good three decades. You know what they call the act of doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.

yea 3 decades of the same dynasty...and assumed the same from a new era? I am not sure how india embraces change if they cant adapt?

 

[MilSpec]

it is a reality coz we have neighbours who are cant fight openly and allow to use them proxies or they themselves do so!

Given the appetite for dishing is substantially less than receiving of certain ego's, I have to walk on egg shells, so I do not want to insinuate poor knowledge of history or accuse disingenuousness on your part, but one of those neighbors fought 4 wars with you, and in one of them handed you the largest unilateral surrended since WWII, in case you didn't know.

is it not?

Kill as many infiltrator on the border as you can, I will rejoice.

Afghanistan can blame whoever it wishes ...in the end only beneficiary is USA...who extended its stay in the region which neither likes...So who would like USA to stay?

india has been blaming Pakistan even before jihadi whatnot! It is a trick made into a habit! cant teach old dog new tricks!

Sure they can, but the fact is they blame your country. No trick, you fought a war with your Army dressed up as mujahideen, did you not?

 

[Dubious]

Given the appetite for dishing is substantially less than receiving of certain ego's, I have to walk on egg shells, so I do not want to insinuate poor knowledge of history or accuse disingenuousness on your part, but one of those neighbors fought 4 wars with you, and in one of them handed you the largest unilateral surrended since WWII, in case you didn't know.

like the iranians who keep stating we were great ONCE...you keep holding onto that and thinking you are still great?

As for the last bit- prob only taught in india...coz it wasnt the largest (I think in this case you didnt know or are just misinformed)!

Kill as many infiltrator on the border as you can, I will rejoice.

and that is sick! Rejoicing on death is really sickening ESP when you claim it is not related to you! I would understand if a mother was happy that the killer of her son died. or a nation if the killer of their soldier but being happy for someone you claim to not have any relations to (even via state) is kind of a sicko mindset!

Sure they can, but the fact is they blame your country. No trick, you fought a war with your Army dressed up as mujahideen, did you not?

history is history...they now need us in the area
1) to help the Americans who they seem to want in the area for protection - wonder why they didnt hire you guys - would have been cheaper
2) to broker the peace between the Americans and same branch of Mujahideens/ Taliban
3) Rich coming from an indian whose on hands are stained with interfering with neighbours and blood of killings left and right!

 

[MilSpec]

like the iranians who keep stating we were great ONCE...you keep holding onto that and thinking you are still great?

As for the last bit- prob only taught in india...coz it wasnt the largest (I think in this case you didnt know or are just misinformed)!

Not in one post have I mentioned anything about greatness or boasted about anything. For a Moderator who thinks India foments terror activities in Pakistan because it lacks the courage to fight Pakistan, the transference of Zia Ul haq's Death by thousand cuts with insurgencies in Punjab and kashmir to India is quite incredulous ; all the while forgetting India has never backed down from a fight when challenged.
As far as the last bit, has been alluded to quite freely, you are quite free to look it up.

and that is sick! Rejoicing on death is really sickening ESP when you claim it is not related to you! I would understand if a mother was happy that the killer of her son died. or a nation if the killer of their soldier but being happy for someone you claim to not have any relations to (even via state) is kind of a sicko mindset!

Context and comprehension, Your rehtorical question to "is it not", to Indians lining up to carry terror acts in pakistan, Given they are not, if come across such "individual" please take them out. I do not think there is any harming in eliminating individuals who in turn would blow themselves up killing those mothers, sons, fathers you care about, would you disagree?

history is history...they now need us in the area
1) to help the Americans who they seem to want in the area for protection - wonder why they didnt hire you guys - would have been cheaper

We are not rental soldiers, never have been, never will be; not that there is anything bad about it. I fully endorse the pragmatism of every other nation who wants to participate in wars for their allies and so forth.

2) to broker the peace between the Americans and same branch of Mujahideens/ Taliban

Given that you possess great leverage in the situation due to historical ties with both US and the Taliban,
you hold all the cards there.

3) Rich coming from an indian whose on hands are stained with interfering with neighbours and blood of killings left and right!

And there lies the difference. I have not hesitated in criticizing my own government for both domestic and foreign policies where I felt they were doing something unethical, you are free to look them up whether it was Sri Lankan situation, Endorsing Nepalese royalty or the multitude of scams and institutional inaction against terrorism against India.

 

[Dubious]

all the while forgetting India has never backed down from a fight when challenged.

oh it has...it has resorted to proxies! No one forgets that!

Indians lining up to carry terror acts in pakistan

no one said abt indians...it takes courage to line up against Pakistanis...

if come across such "individual" please take them out

sad how you disown your own spies....one standing in UN court

We are not rental soldiers, never have been, never will be;

You sure? You are rental when it comes to playing another's agenda instead of being smart enough to strengthen the region by forming alliance with ALL neighbours!

I have not hesitated in criticizing my own government for both domestic and foreign policies where I felt they were doing something unethical, you are free to look them up whether it was Sri Lankan situation, Endorsing Nepalese royalty or the multitude of scams and institutional inaction against terrorism against India.

I am not one who goes hunting! I take your word for it!
But it doesnt undo your stand on Pakistan...which isnt very favourite yet you failed to criticize your own govt in not giving peace a chance?! Oh yea you like your govt doesnt trust IK - a different person than those you have dealt with for a chance at peace? Many would call it escaping!

 

[MilSpec]

oh it has...it has resorted to proxies! No one forgets that!

Has it now, your should take it up in FATF, UN bans of terror outfits in India? any takers?

no one said abt indians...it takes courage to line up against Pakistanis...

may be I did not get the point across, My contention was Indians are not infiltrating into Pakistan to blow themselves up. Blowing people up doesn't need courage, it needs radicalization. I beg to differ with your concept of courage.

sad how you disown your own spies....one standing in UN court

How cute, trying to portray an alleged spy as a terrorist.

You sure? You are rental when it comes to playing another's agenda instead of being smart enough to strengthen the region by forming alliance with ALL neighbours!

Yes, pretty sure, do not send our soldiers to guard royal families in the gulf, don't send out cannon fodder behest of allies, do not let allies bomb our own civilians to aid in their war. Unfortunately, there is a bit of disconnect, India's foreign policy will, is and always will remain India First. Our policies are to secure our own interests, a multitude of examples of the same across the history to reflect the same.