Please donate: Kashmir floods

[kurup]

My Uncle is in Kashmir and Missing. Guys pray for his wellbeing.

Hope he is safe ....

 

[Parul]

Dont worry, he will be somewhere stranded, he will be missing till IA finds him.......

We are hoping and praying he and his 5 colleagues are safe and Army resecues them soon.

Hope he is safe ....

We are not able to established any contact with them since this disaster happened.

 

[anant_s]

My Uncle is in Kashmir and Missing. Guys pray for his wellbeing.

he'll be fine, communication failure is one of the biggest challenges infront of rescuers. Have faith in God and Indian Army.

 

[Levina]

I was more than happy when I read this on FB and felt like sharing it here.
No need to give this post a like
Its not me who deserves a like but the guy who made this confession.

@arp2041 @nair @scorpionx @Sidak @Abingdonboy @DRAY @Joe Shearer @kaykay @nForce @utraash @Indischer @Ravi Nair @SarthakGanguly @Roybot @JanjaWeed @Nova2

 

[nair]

I was more than happy when I read this on FB and felt like sharing it here.
No need to give this post a like
Its not me who deserves a like but the guy who made this confession.

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Well You will find much more confession like this in coming days.... some might be frank and speak out, some might feel embarrassed to speak out, some might try to convince themselves, no IA is a evil force.......

 

[SarthakGanguly]

I was more than happy when I read this on FB and felt like sharing it here.
No need to give this post a like
Its not me who deserves a like but the guy who made this confession.

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@arp2041 @nair @scorpionx @Sidak @Abingdonboy @DRAY @Joe Shearer @kaykay @nForce @utraash @Indischer @Ravi Nair @SarthakGanguly @Roybot @JanjaWeed @Nova2

Kashmiris are soft hearted. Without external 'support' (ideological/material), anti Indian feelings is sure to recede.
We are not Iraqis/ME people that we will bay for blood all the time.

This has been the majority sentiment in all Kashmir. I would say 70% are neutral to India if not supporters of it. But there is a high acceptance of anti India feelings (rather anti Hindu feelings) even among those who are themselves neutral. It's a contradiction, true, but a largely harmless one.

Hint: There are more Maoists killings Indians than Kashmiris.

Without a Geelani, for example, Kashmiris will forget to hate India. The collective initiative is something that we lack. If someone tells them to hate us, with some persuasion they will! If there's no one to 'guide' they won't!

 

[scorpionx]

Kashmiris are soft hearted. Without external 'support' (ideological/material), anti Indian feelings is sure to recede.
We are not Iraqis/ME people that we will bay for blood all the time.

The Muslims in the valley, historically have followed a very soft and lenient version of Islam; thanks to the penetration of Sufi mysticism there in the 14th century. Their religious belief had played very a significant part in the Kashmir dispute back in 47'.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Also if you check now - after the 2005 (earthquakes when Army helped a lot)many Kashmiris are moving out and working/studying etc all over India. For Kashmiris this is a huge thing. My grandfather had never moved beyond Sialkot(now in Pak) and Ludhiyana! Even two decades back such was the case! Now many are overcoming the hatred/fear. Greater interaction has a normal and obvious effect. A Bihari(for example) gets to know that a Kashmiri can be a lady killer(not literally) but not a monster. (sure a few are, but now things have changed). Also the Kashmiri comes to know that the Hindu/Indian is not a Kashmiri hater/rapist maniac. This breaks boundaries quicker and 2 months down the line you see them become more liberal than us!

Bangalore has a huge Kashmiri expat community(mostly Muslim) We even have a Wazwan restaurant in HSR Layout So called 'conservative Kashmiris' will beat even Punjabis in gulping pegs (often much to my annoyance)

Had this been Swat, I would have said - bullets are the only solution. But in Kashmir, I am glad the Indian forces have adopted a largely correct policy.

The Muslims in the valley, historically have followed a very soft and lenient version of Islam; thanks to the penetration of Sufi mysticism there in the 14th century. Their religious belief had played very a significant part in the Kashmir dispute back in 47'.

True. Even Lal Dedh (patron saint) had many poems written about Shiva(Kashmir's fav deity) as well. Yet, here comes the contradiction - all Sufi shrines were destroyed in the last 2 decades. Some have been rebuilt, renovated, put back together now though.

There is also a rumor in the Valley - that the flood is a curse from Kausernag(for killing/driving out Pandits). Ancient tradition states that if He is disturbed, He brings destruction by flooding Kashmir back to nothing! Also Mattan (the only Hindu area) was untouched! This fueled more superstitions.

 

[Cherokee]

My colleague is a Kashmiri and is collecting funds right now . He will himself along with his friends go and help people over there as NGO's are rampantly corrupt . So if anyone planning to donate i can introduce him to you guys and he will give you expense of every penny .

 

[SrNair]

My Uncle is in Kashmir and Missing. Guys pray for his wellbeing.

In Army?

He will be fine.

 

[jbond197]

Donated to the PM relief fund from my mother's account in India!! Seriously they should let NRI's to donate with no restrictions to the PM relief fund. There are lots of people who want to donate but the hassle involved stops them!!

 

[SrNair]

Also if you check now - after the 2005 (earthquakes when Army helped a lot)many Kashmiris are moving out and working/studying etc all over India. For Kashmiris this is a huge thing. My grandfather had never moved beyond Sialkot(now in Pak) and Ludhiyana! Even two decades back such was the case! Now many are overcoming the hatred/fear. Greater interaction has a normal and obvious effect. A Bihari(for example) gets to know that a Kashmiri can be a lady killer(not literally) but not a monster. (sure a few are, but now things have changed). Also the Kashmiri comes to know that the Hindu/Indian is not a Kashmiri hater/rapist maniac. This breaks boundaries quicker and 2 months down the line you see them become more liberal than us!

Bangalore has a huge Kashmiri expat community(mostly Muslim) We even have a Wazwan restaurant in HSR Layout So called 'conservative Kashmiris' will beat even Punjabis in gulping pegs (often much to my annoyance)

Had this been Swat, I would have said - bullets are the only solution. But in Kashmir, I am glad the Indian forces have adopted a largely correct policy.


True. Even Lal Dedh (patron saint) had many poems written about Shiva(Kashmir's fav deity) as well. Yet, here comes the contradiction - all Sufi shrines were destroyed in the last 2 decades. Some have been rebuilt, renovated, put back together now though.

There is also a rumor in the Valley - that the flood is a curse from Kausernag(for killing/driving out Pandits). Ancient tradition states that if He is disturbed, He brings destruction by flooding Kashmir back to nothing! Also Mattan (the only Hindu area) was untouched! This fueled more superstitions.

Kashmiris still love their Pandit brothers .I am sure about that

 

[SarthakGanguly]

My colleague is a Kashmiri and is collecting funds right now . He will himself along with his friends go and help people over there as NGO's are rampantly corrupt . So if anyone planning to donate i can introduce him to you guys and he will give you expense of every penny .

Never donate to NGOs. Most are frauds. Bharat Sevasram Sangh/RSS/ PM Fund even Jamaat can be trusted.

 

[Levina]

Also if you check now - after the 2005 (earthquakes when Army helped a lot)many Kashmiris are moving out and working/studying etc all over India. For Kashmiris this is a huge thing. My grandfather had never moved beyond Sialkot(now in Pak) and Ludhiyana! Even two decades back such was the case! Now many are overcoming the hatred/fear. Greater interaction has a normal and obvious effect. A Bihari(for example) gets to know that a Kashmiri can be a lady killer(not literally) but not a monster. (sure a few are, but now things have changed). Also the Kashmiri comes to know that the Hindu/Indian is not a Kashmiri hater/rapist maniac. This breaks boundaries quicker and 2 months down the line you see them become more liberal than us!

Bangalore has a huge Kashmiri expat community(mostly Muslim) We even have a Wazwan restaurant in HSR Layout So called 'conservative Kashmiris' will beat even Punjabis in gulping pegs (often much to my annoyance)

Had this been Swat, I would have said - bullets are the only solution. But in Kashmir, I am glad the Indian forces have adopted a largely correct policy.


True. Even Lal Dedh (patron saint) had many poems written about Shiva(Kashmir's fav deity) as well. Yet, here comes the contradiction - all Sufi shrines were destroyed in the last 2 decades. Some have been rebuilt, renovated, put back together now though.

There is also a rumor in the Valley - that the flood is a curse from Kausernag(for killing/driving out Pandits). Ancient tradition states that if He is disturbed, He brings destruction by flooding Kashmir back to nothing! Also Mattan (the only Hindu area) was untouched! This fueled more superstitions.

I had read this somewhere that kashmir lost its soul and so called kashmiriyat after pandits left Kashmir.When I happened to quote the same line here on the forum I earned some brickbats

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Kashmiris still love their Pandit brothers .I am sure about that

The new generation hardly knows about us. And a strange kind of hatred is there. I can't explain it. If you come out with a tikka on your head, you will hear some slangs. But you ask for help, and they will help! It's kinda shallow, I guess.