Pervez Musharraf - A true Pakistani ?

[pakistanitarzan]

We proud on Musharraf that he was mastermind of Kargil operation ... We can grab our Kashmir which india forecedly occupied ... But a coward leader of our bowed his head.

Sir, you are wrong. My uncle was in PAF and he told me that "Kargil" was in the book of Pak Army since early 1980's and it was Musharaf who executed it so I don't think he planned the operation back in the 80's

 

[Rafi]

Mushy dancing with troops from the Chitral Scouts and the NLI.


Mushi you little beauty - poor arnab is recovering from the brutal tearing of his arse.

 

[A.Rafay]

Musharraf is a true and patriotic pakistani! that 2000 news is untrue!

 

[bronxbull]

I saw it fully,mushy did not do anything so crazy also.

First he says PA if professional XYZ and then when countered bigtime he says what abt siachen,what about east pakistan?

Basically Arnab got the boludo response he wanted with no willingness to debate?

That was the purpose and it looked achieved.

 

[iPhone]

What's the purpose of this thread? So he defended Pakistan and its army, he is Pakistani after all. What, Indians can't stand a single Pakistani standing up for Pakistan?

And Indian news anchor should have known better to call Musharraf on his show. He is a master in verbosity, he's put western media in it's place, remember his interview on 60 minutes, tu Indian news anchor kiya cheez hein.

Indians should have called some incompetent fool from the current Pak leadership. If PPP had any sense they'd offer Musharraf position as head of foreign office.

 

[Patriots]

anyways welcome to the forum mate.

Thanx to greeting

 

[Patriots]

that is what you think.atleast kalat was taken over by ur government forcefully.

and kashmir valley is our territory.mind it.

So, do conduct a referendum in Kashmir because u have democracy in ur country then see result how many Kashmiris will vote for separetion.
And don't forget friend that India did not implement on UN resolutions.

 

[ashok321]

He sips his scotch whiskey everyday and plays with his (two) pekingese canines which are haram/najis by the way.....

 

[ashok321]

And don't forget friend that India did not implement on UN resolutions.


Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/member...usharraf-true-pakistani-12.html#ixzz2IbH9GbU2

"On the battlefield, the National Conference volunteers were working shoulder-to-shoulder with the Indian army to drive out the invaders. On December 31, 1947, India filed a complaint with the United Nations against the Pakistani aggression and its help to the invading tribesmen. Sheikh Abdullah was not in favor of India seeking the UN intervention because he was sure the Indian army could free the entire State of the invaders. The UNO did not resolve the Kashmir issue. It called for withdrawal of troops on April 21, 1948. The Indian army had driven the Pakistanis up to Uri in Kashmir and Poonch in Jammu when ceasefire was ordered in December 1948. Mr. Jinnah, the promoter of this invasion, had died in September of that year. Both India and Pakistan accepted the ceasefire."

Did Pakistan?

 

[Saleem]

Sir, you are wrong. My uncle was in PAF and he told me that "Kargil" was in the book of Pak Army since early 1980's and it was Musharaf who executed it so I don't think he planned the operation back in the 80's

it was a conringency plan to be executed at an opportune moment ---pervez launched prematurely and destroyed the whole plans and pakistan in additon --india increased force levels feom a single brigade to a division plus ---thus from a need for a diviison we would now need a corps plus (100,000 men) to dislodge the india's 20,000 men there. in addition india moblized 200,000 plus men for the operation while keeping and reinforcing normal force levels elsewhere ---so any operation in this area is now impossible from pakistans perspective---the single "secret" vulnerabliity of indias position in kashmir was exposed and they are ready now------may pervez and tjose of his ilk be damned for seven generations and more----

 

[Ayush]

So, do conduct a referendum in Kashmir because u have democracy in ur country then see result how many Kashmiris will vote for separetion.
And don't forget friend that India did not implement on UN resolutions.

well first of all thnx for accepting that v India is Indian territory.

second about the referendum why should we do it on our territory. By this logic we should do it in every state.
being a democracy we have elections.

SECURITY COUNCIL MEDIATION AND THE KASHMIR DISPUTE: REFLECTIONS ON ITS FAILURES AND POSSIBILITIES FOR RENEWAL

UNHCR | Refworld | "With Friends Like These...": Human Rights Violations in Azad Kashmir

 

[Patriots]

well first of all thnx for accepting that v India is Indian territory.

second about the referendum why should we do it on our territory. By this logic we should do it in every state.
being a democracy we have elections.

SECURITY COUNCIL MEDIATION AND THE KASHMIR DISPUTE: REFLECTIONS ON ITS FAILURES AND POSSIBILITIES FOR RENEWAL

UNHCR | Refworld | "With Friends Like These...": Human Rights Violations in Azad Kashmir

Hahahahahahah ... Friend! I never accepted that Kashmir is Indian territory rather India has forcibly occupied it in 1947 ... Indo – Pak partition had set in result of election ... Such territories those voted to Muslim League had been considered in Pakistan and rest of territories those voted to congress considered the part of India ..
According to history Kashmiri people rose against Maharaja Hari Singh's rule ... He ruthlessly crushed a mass uprising in 1931 ... In 1932, Sheikh Abdullah formed Kashmir's first political party The All Jammu & Kashmir Muslim Conference (renamed as National Conference in 1939) ... In 1934, the Maharaja gave way and allowed limited democracy in the form of a Legislative Assembly ... According to the instruments of partition the rulers of states were given the choice to freely accede to either India or Pakistan or to remain independent ..
However, people of Kashmir were demanding to join Pakistan but maharaja eventually gave way to the Indian pressure and agreed to join India ... Kashmir was provisionally accepted into the Indian Union pending a free and impartial plebiscite ... This was spelled out in a letter from the Governor General of India who was Lord Mountbatten to the Maharaja on 27 October 1947 ... Mountbatten made it clear in the letter that the State would only be incorporated into the Indian Union after a reference had been made to the people of Kashmir ... Having accepted the principle of a referendum. India has since obstructed all attempts at holding a referendum ... When India and Pakistan went to war over Kashmir in 1948 UN helped enforce ceasefire between the both countries ... (The ceasefire line is called the Line of Control due to this some part of Kashmir which is called Azad Kashmir is part of Pakistan but Pakistan gave it semi independent status until the issue would not be resolved) ... It was an outcome of a mutual consent by India and Pakistan that the UN Security Council and UN Commission for India and Pakistan passed several resolutions in years following the 1948 war ... The UNSC resolution of 21 April 1948 of the principal UN resolutions on Kashmir stated that ... “both India and Pakistan desire that the question of the accession of Jammu and Kashmir to India or Pakistan should be decided through the democratic method of a free and impartial plebiscite” ... Subsequent UNSC resolutions reiterated the same stand. UNCIP resolutions of 3 August 1948 and 5 January 1949 reinforced UNSC resolutions ... But till the time India has not implement on these resolutions ..

 

[bronxbull]

so,dont mess with the dogars.

 

[Bond]

Are.....you.....effin....serious?

Listen boy, WE WILL RIP YOUR tiny third-class AIRFORCE APART WITHIN HOURS IF WE WANT TO!

What can you put up against us? Some junk Su-30s or Ohhh that Mig-29s? We will "ground" your entire fleet before it even tries to come up in the sky.

Your radars will be jammed, your bases will be destroyed, and your network-centric capabilities will be left utterly useless within first 5 days of air war with THE USAF!

Be realistic and stop being jingoistic. Show respect where it is needed to be shown.

Your "laughing smily" won't change facts.

ye le munna.. ja abhi so ja..

 

[Kashmiri Nationalist]

If a beheaded Indian soldier's head was paraded through Kashmiri bazaars, what message are the Kashmiris sending to India, Krait? Perhaps that is something you should pay attention to.

Of course, no such incident occurred (I doubt I wouldn't know of it had it occurred), so the question is: why message is the Indian media sending out with this?