Panama leak Case Proceedings - JIT Report, News, Updates And Discussion

[litman]

Yes.. But his sec tweet regd Qatari prince .. I think qatari will just want to waste time of JIT..and maybe still not appear in the end...as he doesnt have anything to show......so maybe, i think JIT shouldnt go....then? Why waste your own time? Waisy.....I think scheduling tu foreign office ke through hogi...and tht will be finalised before JIT's visit..... But if he doesnt appear on first date...JIT should come back immediately rather than giving him another chance and wait for him



No Qatari prince wont give JIT any access..and also since tht letter is a fake, everyone knows tht..he wont be able to provide any documentary evidence in support of his qatari letter... So by cross questioning hin, it will become amply clear, tht qatari letter is a lie....

If JIT doesnt go..then snarifs will say tht JIT is biased... Qatari offered JIT to interview him in qTar.. JIT didnt go..otherwise we had all the proofs... But i am more interested now..tht JIT's time isnt wasted much on this.. There should be a finalised date before their visit and if he doesnt appear on first date, JIT should come back immediately

just tonight an analyst called all this JIT as "nora kushti". the anchor asked that there are two military personal in this JIT and that analyst replied have you forgotten dawn leaks . so no hopes from this country and all the institutes. pak is destined to be doomed.

Was anyone expecting any different outcome?

Whole trail and empire of $harif is based and built on two Qatari letters. Period

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when the prince will verify the letters whole income of NS will become legit and JIT will call him innocent.

 

[Realistic Change]

Chill folks - just read the tweet - as per this tweet there should be a max of 2-3 hours loadshedding across Pakistan!

^ Bhai full form mein lagta hai ....Khawaja Sb mehsoos hi na kar gaye hoon

just tonight an analyst called all this JIT as "nora kushti". the anchor asked that there are two military personal in this JIT and that analyst replied have you forgotten dawn leaks . so no hopes from this country and all the institutes. pak is destined to be doomed.


when the prince will verify the letters whole income of NS will become legit and JIT will call him innocent.

No one except Allah knows what's going to happen in future.

But I do not see it happening so easily for Nawaz this time, otherwise there wouldn't be that much of sannata in PMLN's meeting

 

[Farah Sohail]

No one except Allah knows what's going to happen in future.

But I do not see it happening so easily for Nawaz this time, otherwise there wouldn't be that much of sannata in PMLN's meeting


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Waisy aaj waqayi bhtt buray mood main lagg rahay hain sab.. Mian Sb bhi JIT se bahar aaye thay tu bhtt buray mood main thay.. But this was expected...no? Phir itnay shock main kiun hain ye log? Hasan aur Hussain se JIT se interrogate kiya tha, tu JIT ke mood ke baaray main tu bataa hi duya hoga... Phir bhi kuch ziada hi sadma hogaya hai..in masoom logon ko ... Aisa bhi kiya kar diya hai, JIT ne aaj?

 

[Verve]

This guy is so cursed that he had to clear his throat after every 'InshaAllah' ... and he's right about Allah's court but he also fails to realise that Allah is doing all this to him. His 'rassi' has been yanked!

He had to clear his throat after saying 'democracy' as well ... itni bakwas ke baad throat he jawab de gya ..

He's in the deep hole of zilat and ruswai.

 

[Realistic Change]

Waisy aaj waqayi bhtt buray mood main lagg rahay hain sab.. Mian Sb bhi JIT se bahar aaye thay tu bhtt buray mood main thay.. But this was expected...no? Phir itnay shock main kiun hain ye log? Hasan aur Hussain se JIT se interrogate kiya tha, tu JIT ke mood ke baaray main tu bataa hi duya hoga... Phir bhi kuch ziada hi sadma hogaya hai..in masoom logon ko ... Aisa bhi kiya kar diya hai, JIT ne aaj?

I spoke to son of Abbas Sharif today, he is not into politics and probably the only Sharif who I do not detest. Mood is demure to say the least. They weren't expecting that this day would EVER come. $harif is not only on backfoot but now standing behind the wickets with gloves and bat in his hands. Issue is that he has heavier pads on and do not know where to run?

This guy is so cursed that he had to clear his throat after every 'InshaAllah' ... and he's right about Allah's court but he also fails to realise that Allah is doing all this to him. His 'rassi' has been yanked!

He had to clear his throat after saying 'democracy' as well ... itni bakwas ke baad throat he jawab de gya ..

He's in the deep hole of zilat and ruswai.

Nihari and Paye with Halwa Puri in nashta does cause acid reflux. No amount of meethi lassi can help him keep it down!

 

[Verve]

Nihari and Paye with Halwa Puri in nashta does cause acid reflux. No amount of meethi lassi can help him keep it down!

Iss pe laanat parr chuki hai .. 20 crore ki adalat ki laanat ...

As for the kharish in the throat, this he gets everytime he lies and takes Allah's name in vain. In an earlier video when he was taking of corruption, he had the same kharish when he uttered a big lie. After 'factories' too today

Today must have been a stressful day for him .. jaldi bemar ho ye laanti or bahir jaye. England main welcoming party tyar rakhni chahiay iss ke liay especially.

 

[Farah Sohail]

I spoke to son of Abbas Sharif today, he is not into politics and probably the only Sharif who I do not detest. Mood is demure to say the least. They weren't expecting that this day would EVER come. $harif is not only on backfoot but now standing behind the wickets with gloves and bat in his hands. Issue is that he has heavier pads on and do not know where to run?
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Loll... So....was the grilling...tougher than expected? Because atleast since 1 month..they knew..tht PM has to appear.. His both sons have already faced JIT... Even Hussain Nawaz when came out of JIT..he appeared more confident....but PM was all lost...today.. What happened? Did they ask such questions tht he didnt still expect..tht they would ask to a sitting PM?

Today must have been a stressful day for him .. jaldi bemar ho ye laanti or bahir jaye. England main welcoming party tyar rakhni chahiay iss ke liay especially.

England nahi.. Jail main welcoming party tayyar rakhni chahye.. Bas aanay hi wala hai, InshaAllah

 

[Realistic Change]

Loll... So....was the grilling...tougher than expected? Because atleast since 1 month..they knew..tht PM has to appear.. His both sons have already faced JIT... Even Hussain Nawaz when came out of JIT..he appeared more confident....but PM was all lost...today.. What happened? Did they ask such questions tht he didnt still expect..tht they would ask to a sitting PM?

Yousuf is not at all into politics like his dad. Very different from Hussain, Hamza, and Hassan and even Salman.

The point I was making was - knowing he will appear in JIT is something but when reality strikes then it dawned upon them ...."yeh tou waqai mein ho gaya "....lol

Now just look at this pic: there is one Khawaja who said on the floor of the house that Panama - qissa-ea pareena bun jaye ga.....

In this pic it seems some thing like this:

Nawaz: hello ....oye.....Khawajey.....kya kaha tha tum ney?

Khawaja : *looks bittar bittar*

 

[Farah Sohail]

Yousuf is not at all into politics like his dad. Very different from Hussain, Hamza, and Hassan and even Salman.

The point I was making was - knowing he will appear in JIT is something but when reality strikes then it dawned upon them ...."yeh tou waqai mein ho gaya "....lol

Now just look at this pic: there is one Khawaja who said on the floor of the house that Panama will be qissa-ea pereena bun jaye ga.....

In this pic it seems some thing like this:
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Nawaz: hello ....oye.....Khawajey.....kya kaha tha tum ney?

Khawaja : *looks bittar bittar*

Hmmm..
So ther are some decent ppl also, in sharif family? Good to know..

Do they expect JIT to call PM again? I think JIT will call him again.....

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PML-N to alter its strategy on dealing with JIT - PM Nawaz Sharif narrates his harraowing tale

ISLAMABAD: The ruling party Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) on Thursday decided to adopt an aggressive strategy against the Joint Investigation Team (JIT) probing the cases related to Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and his family members.
Sources privy to the details of the meeting chaired by the prime minister soon after his appearance at the Prime Minister’s House said that the PM looked confident but narrated an ordeal he had to face at the JIT hearing.

A source said that the prime minister told his colleagues that he had to wait for almost half an hour after arriving at the Judicial Complex, despite the fact that the JIT had already been informed about the schedule of the prime minister.
“The prime minister looked a bit concerned after the JIT appearance. He feels as if the JIT, rather than probing the case, looks more inclined to ridicule the elected prime minister of the country,” the source said.

The source said that the JIT was repeating almost same questions raised against the prime minister and his family by Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) leaders and other media outlets.
“The questions asked from the prime minister and his family have been almost identical and have no relation directly about the Panama Leaks case,” the source said.

The source said that the meeting concluded that it seems as if the JIT wanted to damage the ruling family politically; hence, the federal government had decided to deal with the matter politically too.
Asked whether the prime minister had handed over necessary evidence to the JIT, the source said that all related documents had already been shared with the investigation team.

“The ruling family has already shared the relevant record with the JIT. The prime minister also shared some documents. But the legal team of the prime minister believes it’s not about the case; rather the investigation is being designed to deal a major political blow to the government. We would not allow this to happen. From now onwards, you will see a clear change in our strategy,” the source added.
Top PML-N leaders, cabinet ministers, legal aides of the ruling family and some close family members attended the meeting.

https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/201...ling-with-jit/

 

[Realistic Change]

Hmmm..
So ther are some decent ppl also, in sharif family? Good to know..

Do they expect JIT to call PM again? I think JIT will call him again.....

Well ...tbh...I don't know for sure what they are thinking.

But they (PMLN) have created a demigod in Nawaz fully knowing he is corrupt. He is a symbol for them and if he gets down at this stage on his own; it's his defeat.

If he gets disqualified; it's also his defeat.

Elections are nearing and loadshedding in Ramzan has killed PMLN - they are in worst state at worst time.

I criticized PTI a lot due to their immature political moves; but they have learned a lot in last 2-3 years that they are countering PMLN's moves very effectively.

Political heat in height of summer is not seen very commonly in Pakistan. If you are anti status quo then it means you are Pro Pakistan - and it seems that a lot is not going right for status quo.

Hmmm..
So ther are some decent ppl also, in sharif family? Good to know..

Do they expect JIT to call PM again? I think JIT will call him again.....

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PML-N to alter its strategy on dealing with JIT - PM Nawaz Sharif narrates his harraowing tale

ISLAMABAD: The ruling party Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) on Thursday decided to adopt an aggressive strategy against the Joint Investigation Team (JIT) probing the cases related to Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and his family members.
Sources privy to the details of the meeting chaired by the prime minister soon after his appearance at the Prime Minister’s House said that the PM looked confident but narrated an ordeal he had to face at the JIT hearing.

A source said that the prime minister told his colleagues that he had to wait for almost half an hour after arriving at the Judicial Complex, despite the fact that the JIT had already been informed about the schedule of the prime minister.
“The prime minister looked a bit concerned after the JIT appearance. He feels as if the JIT, rather than probing the case, looks more inclined to ridicule the elected prime minister of the country,” the source said.

The source said that the JIT was repeating almost same questions raised against the prime minister and his family by Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) leaders and other media outlets.
“The questions asked from the prime minister and his family have been almost identical and have no relation directly about the Panama Leaks case,” the source said.

The source said that the meeting concluded that it seems as if the JIT wanted to damage the ruling family politically; hence, the federal government had decided to deal with the matter politically too.
Asked whether the prime minister had handed over necessary evidence to the JIT, the source said that all related documents had already been shared with the investigation team.

“The ruling family has already shared the relevant record with the JIT. The prime minister also shared some documents. But the legal team of the prime minister believes it’s not about the case; rather the investigation is being designed to deal a major political blow to the government. We would not allow this to happen. From now onwards, you will see a clear change in our strategy,” the source added.
Top PML-N leaders, cabinet ministers, legal aides of the ruling family and some close family members attended the meeting.

https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/201...ling-with-jit/

^ Thanks for sharing this. I haven't read that before I posted above.

PMLN has no other strategy left other than to go head on and raise a dust storm. No other strategy. None-Zero-Nishta!

 

[Yeah Me]

 

[Yeah Me]

Well....a little fly on the wall sent me this cute little note...
any similarity to real character is purely accidental. Its all fiction..[emoji23]

 

[war&peace]

Dont know how credible it is..but this is what Shaheen Sehbai says

https://twitter.com/ssehbai1/status/87541004427116544

https://twitter.com/ssehbai1/status/87541242103220224

Shaheen Sehbai is one of the best and senior most journalists in the country and his news is always regarded as credible by the community of the journalists.

This guy is so cursed that he had to clear his throat after every 'InshaAllah' ... and he's right about Allah's court but he also fails to realise that Allah is doing all this to him. His 'rassi' has been yanked!

He had to clear his throat after saying 'democracy' as well ... itni bakwas ke baad throat he jawab de gya ..

He's in the deep hole of zilat and ruswai.

What a useless piece of meat that he can't utter a single word own his own.. Someone has to feed him words..what a loser

 

[Arsalan]

@bold ... Pehli baat tu yeh hai ke gaaliyan dena meri aadat hai...na fitrat... Yes..i argued...many times..and forcefully argued my points Lekin i dont think ke main ne kisi ke liye personally itnay ziada derogatory words use kiye hon...ke usay gaaliyan dena kaha jaye.. Agar kiye hain..kabhi ..frustration main......hosakta hai ke mujh se ghalti hui ho... Aap mujhe meri woh posts point out kar dein... I will surely apologise..

Rahi SC ki baat.... Jb ye case chal raha tha...yes..i was negative..because of history of our SC..which never gave verdicts against NS or any powerful... Is liye bht dafa negatve hoti thee.. Ye bhi kaha ke mujhe nhi lagta ke koi result niklay ga....Lekin shayad aap ko yaad ho ke ..when i started reading Justice Khosa's book... I started to say..tht i have hopes from this man..and he seems to me to be a dignified man.. Main ne bhtt dafa kaha tha ke mujhe nahi lagta ke Justice Khosa kisi backdoor deal ka hissa banein ge.. I have hopes from him.. WHY? Kiun ke mera kisi bhi INSTITUITION ya kisi individual se koi personal grudge nahi raha... Har instituition ya individual ki history ki base par opinion form karti hun..jab mujhe lagta hai ke meri opinion ghalat thee.. I openly say so.. Main Justice Khosa ko nahi jaanti thee.. Unki book main unhon ne jo VERDICTS diye hain ya dechukay hain..unki basis par main ne apni opinion form ki thee.. Ke mujhe woh achay insan lagtay hain... And thankfully he proved my opinion abt him correct...

Regd advocate and pakora judge.. Unke remarks ki basis par hum ne opinion form ki thee... Jo unhon ne panama case main diye thay..and then tht opinion was reinforced/strengthened after their VERDICT... So now we have something solid to base our opinion on... Is wajah se unke baary main achi opinion nahi hai.. Iss ke bawajood..i have said few times.. And @PakSword can confirm..and testify ke main ne ye bhi kaha hai ..ke zuroori nahi..advocate aur pakora bikaao hi hon... Wh mujhe dil se patwari lagtay hain bas.. Isay gaaliyan dena kehtay hain?

Regd Justice Ijazul Ahsan..although he sided with advocate and pakora judge.. I have always maintained tht he seems to me to be a decent person... Bhtt dafa kahaa hai...ke mujhe is 3 member bench main agar kisi se umeed hai tu Justice Ijazul Ahsan se hai.. Athough he sided with advocate and pakora..but after knowing his detailed arguments in his verdict..we never badmouthed him.. Abhi bhi achay hi alfaz main zikr kartay hain unka.. Is se confirm hota hai ke hum kisi ke against itnay biased nahi hain ke logically sochna chor dein..ya koi cheez ya verdict pasand nahi aaya (tht he didnt disqualify him ) tu bas sirf buraiyyan hi karein... No..we didnt do tht

Regd JIT.. Bilkol.. Main bhtt depressed thee....jab JIT bani thee..aut panama verdict aaya tha.. I still stand by my earlier view ke main JIT ke openly against thee.. Tht was also based on history of our instituitions... But it was only when JIT members were selected...and we came to know abt their reputation..i started to calm down..and thought tht we should give them a chance...

Again it proves..ke main kisi instituition ya individual ke against nahi hun ...rather its only actions of those individuals or instituitions tht we are against..

Aur jo koi acha kaam karta hai....or if someone proves my (negatve) opinion abt someone wrong..then i happily accept tht..and openly appreciate tht person... Jab se JIT members ki achi reputation suni hai.. Main ne hamesha unhein appreciate kiya hai..

Regd MI and ISI members..in JIT ....Yes.. I again say tht initially i was apprehensive when they were included in this JIt..because of their presence in dawn leaks committee and the way tht matter was settled eventually.. But kal bhi kaha tha...tht i came to realise lTer tht they were not responsible for whT happened in dawn leaks..and tht such deals happen at the top.. And yesterday @Icarus shared more info regarding Brig Noman..i again apologised tht i was wrong abt him, and tht after coming to know abt him...i am extremely proud of him as a Pakistani.. Again proves...tht i have no personal grude against any individual or instituition.. Regd the same Brig Noman..on whose presence in JIT..i was apprehensive initially..when @Icarus shard info yesterday...i whole heartedly accepted my mistake..and apologised..

Now why i am hopeful abt this JIT..is again based on their ACTIONS..esp after knowing abt their reservations in SC.. We have come to know tht they are courageous ppl..who are not afraid of anyone..and doing their best as much as they can,, so this opinion is again based on their actions.. S now tht i have seen their conduct..i appreciate them a lot and will always respect these JIT members, no matter what the verdict of this case as..as we have never badmouthed abt Justice Ijazul Ahsan.. I believe tht uptil now, after seeing their conduct .....tht they are heroes, atleast for me..who should be praised rather than be doubted ..

Regd what u said ke JIT walay bhi insan hain.. NS will not go down without a fight.. I agree.. But dont u think...tht when we know this..JIT members didnt know abt it..when they were included in this JIT? They must have known this ..already..and yet they took up this challenge..is what makes me appreciate them even more.. They acted selflessly...without being bowed down by the threats and risks to their careers.. They are heroes for me already...and i will supoort them, in whatever they do now.. If they have called NS, or anyone else..they know the consequences already.. They are doing Jihad, in true sense.... If they think tht risks are too much for them...and its not worth it.. They can still excuse themselves..and trust me... .i will think they are justified and will never badmouth them, ever... Whatever they choose to do..i will appreciate them... Whatever they have done till now.. They are heroes for me already.. and even their resignation wont change tht..though i will be sad at their resignation...ofcourse.. But for Pakistan..tht due to the state of affairs..they had to resign..but will never badmouth or doubt them, or their intentions.. They are humans too, and have families, too... so they will be justified..in whatever they do.. Although i sincerely hope tht they continue till 60 days

Waisy...aap ne itni dafa humein criticise kiya ke hum bhtt negative hojatay hian...we never reacted the way u did... Yes..again i will say tht i countered your points with my arguments always forcefully.... lekin uss par bhi yeh kabhi nahi kaha ke aap uss ko galiyan detay thay..ya usko nahi... I expected better from you

OK i read it completely now.

First, once again, i didn't meant to say that you were abusing someone, i used that as an expression. Sorry that you didn't liked it but i can guarantee you that it was not meant as a disrespect sis.

As for the rest of the post, i am completely lost what you are trying to say and why do you have to say it? I mean, it is not like the post that i made was to criticize you or anyone else. We are here for a discussion right? You yourself say it. I am just expressing my opinion on this matter i i did explained WHY i am not very comfortable with NS appearing before JIT.

Kindly please understand that:

1. I am sorry that me saying "galiyan dyty thy" hurt your feelings. Really sorry for that. Should not have said it but it was never meant as a disrespect.
2. Not every disagreement is a criticism.

Since you are talking about the past, please note that when the SC verdict came, this same thread was full of people bashing SC for the verdict. People were disappointed as they were expecting more. I floated a question, what better verdict our members here were hoping for and you are aware that there was no alternative that offered any practical value. Tu tb mein agr kisi say SC can verdict par disagre kr raha tha to it was not to criticize them but just to educate myself and see if there was a better option and if not, to make others understand this. Please do let me know where i criticized YOU that you felt negative about it? I will try my best to explain that to you again. All i can say for now is that i do not criticize anyone, let alone you, @PakSword @Verve or any one here just for the sake of it. If i disagree with something it is so that may be i can learn something new or may be get something new to you. Please do not take it the wrong way.

As for the JIT, please note that my point is and always have been that NS appearing before JIT is the peak of this whole saga. I would not have wanted JIT to be exposed to this much pressure knowing as well as all of your how things WORK over here. You were all right when you were not believing in SC initially, you were right when you all said that NAB and FBR are all under NS so how can they conduct a free trial. You based that argument on our sad history, on facts and not emotions. However my point of view was that we are actually at a point in time where we have to take the right step and destiny will force it upon us. We did that and JIT have been working well till now. However, nothing changes those facts that you or everyone else were basing their argument on. NAB FBR and all those cannot be trusted to the fullest even with JIT working properly. Getting the god father involved at this stage so directly and in a humiliating way (yes it will be humiliating for him) will make things complicated. I do not want to beleive what Moeed Pirzada was saying yesterday that "all this may well be a drama to make people like us think that JIT is very good and unhin na tu hakumat ka naak mein dum kr rakha ha"

I am all for a clean decisive blow. Get the investigation complete, send to SC and get a verdict in our favor. A clean blow. The more the matter is dragged the more complicated it will become. Jitna mamla uchala jai ga utny masla karay hoty jain gy!!


Just my two cents.


And again, sorry for those words and NO i do no mean any disrespect when i disagree with you,
Same for you @PakSword @Verve and others.

I'm interested in your long reply Mr TTA...
Never tease a girl because in the war of words you can't win...it is impossible..no man has been successful including the great warriors

Still angry at that argument?
You seem to know a lot about girls!!

Anyway, the argument or what you call war of words was NEVER to tease Farah or to WIN. She is like a sister and no disrespect was meant so you can relax.

Yousuf is not at all into politics like his dad. Very different from Hussain, Hamza, and Hassan and even Salman.

The point I was making was - knowing he will appear in JIT is something but when reality strikes then it dawned upon them ...."yeh tou waqai mein ho gaya "....lol

Now just look at this pic: there is one Khawaja who said on the floor of the house that Panama - qissa-ea pareena bun jaye ga.....

In this pic it seems some thing like this:
View attachment 403954
Nawaz: hello ....oye.....Khawajey.....kya kaha tha tum ney?

Khawaja : *looks bittar bittar*

The look like they have lost everything!!

I just hope and pray that this is the case.

 

[Zibago]

Ye aitekaf mein na beith jayein @PakSword