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[Farah Sohail]

Phans chukay already.. There is no way out..

Foreign incorporated vehicle... foreign nationals with Mashkook hubbulwatni.. enough for PTI to get a ban.. lollllll

Mazak bana dia hai qanoon ko bhi..

Waisy aaj shayad PTI ne PML N ke bhi documents submit kiye hain, SC main..tht PML N is also registered as a company in UK.. Us par Cheif Justice ne remarks diye hain ke PML N ne bhi certificate nahi diye (?)i dont know exactly which certificate...... aur CJ said ke PML N ko bhi apnay jawab denay honge... Lagta hai ke phansein ge tu dono hi phansein ge

 

[PakSword]

Waisy aaj shayad PTI ne PML N ke bhi documents submit kiye hain, SC main..tht PML N is also registered as a company in UK.. Us par Cheif Justice ne remarks diye hain ke PML N ne bhi certificate nahi diye (?)i dont know exactly which certificate...... aur CJ said ke PML N ko bhi apnay jawab denay honge... Lagta hai ke phansein ge tu dono hi phansein ge

lollll...

Technicalities pe khel rahey hain dono..

Do you see any problem in getting funds from overseas Pakistanis or ex-Pakistanis? or Incorporation of a company in US/ UK?

I don't believe ke hamari courts essence of law ke bajaey technicalities dekh rahi hain.. Kia hua agar becharay ex-Pakistanis hain? Pakistan Origin Cards tou hongay na unn ke paas? Aur kia hua agar company wahan register ki hai because the law requires them to do so?

I don't know SC ko kia hogaya hai.. yeh hota hai Qanoon Vs. Insaaf ka farq.. Yeh law iss liey banaya gaya tha ke koi doosra mulk hamari jamhooriat pe asar andaz na hosakay..

SC andhi hai jinhain Nawaz Modi taluqat nazar nahi aarahay, ke kis tarah Modi Pakistani siasat main asar andaaz hochuka hai apnay aik stooge ke through lekin nazar aaraha hai tou PTI ki aik company jo unhon ne US main qanoon ke mutabiq incorporate karwai..

kia nizaam hai..

Waisy aaj shayad PTI ne PML N ke bhi documents submit kiye hain, SC main..tht PML N is also registered as a company in UK.. Us par Cheif Justice ne remarks diye hain ke PML N ne bhi certificate nahi diye (?)i dont know exactly which certificate...... aur CJ said ke PML N ko bhi apnay jawab denay honge... Lagta hai ke phansein ge tu dono hi phansein ge

Yeh declaration certificate hain.. PTI ne tou audited financial statements di hai uss incorporated company ki..

 

[Farah Sohail]

lollll...

Technicalities pe khel rahey hain dono..

Do you see any problem in getting funds from overseas Pakistanis or ex-Pakistanis? or Incorporation of a company in US/ UK?

I don't believe ke hamari courts essence of law ke bajaey technicalities dekh rahi hain.. Kia hua agar becharay ex-Pakistanis hain? Pakistan Origin Cards tou hongay na unn ke paas? Aur kia hua agar company wahan register ki hai because the law requires them to do so?

I don't know SC ko kia hogaya hai.. yeh hota hai Qanoon Vs. Insaaf ka farq.. Yeh law iss liey banaya gaya tha ke koi doosra mulk hamari jamhooriat pe asar andaz na hosakay..

SC andhi hai jinhain Nawaz Modi taluqat nazar nahi aarahay, ke kis tarah Modi Pakistani siasat main asar andaaz hochuka hai apnay aik stooge ke through lekin nazar aaraha hai tou PTI ki aik company jo unhon ne US main qanoon ke mutabiq incorporate karwai..
kia nizaam hai..
Yeh declaration certificate hain.. PTI ne tou audited financial statements di hai uss incorporated company ki..

Jahan tak Modi Nawaz dosti ka talluq hai...tu woh SC. Keh dey gi ke abhi humaray pass ek political party ka case hai..doosrun ka nahi. Waisy aaj PTI ke lawyer ne kaha hai ke foreign funding jo illegal hai..woh kulbhushan yadev jaisi foreign funding ka zikr hai, jaisy Kulbhushan funding karta tha, Pak ke against kaam karnay ke liye...

Mujhe lagta hai ke ye case is liye bhi SC ke liye mushkil hai ke ye panama case ke fauran baad hai...tu agar zara sa bhi aisa kuch impression mila ke SC is lenient on PTI, tu PML N shor machaa dey gi.. Aaj kal humara mulk..sirf aur sirf is basis par chal raha hai ke PML N shor na machaa dey.. Is liye unki marzo ke kaam kartay jayein..sirf is liye ke PML N shor na machaye.. Aaj kal har instituition sirf is fikr main hai ke kahin PML N. Ko koi baat buri na lag jaye.. Sab unhein manaany main lagay huay hain.. Is main Pakistan ka bera gharq hota hai, tu ho..bas PML N naraz na ho...

Pakistani courts ke majority judges technicalities par hi faislay detay hain.. Essence of law aur insaf ki basis par bhtt kam judges faislay detay hain

Main tu shukr karrahi hun ke is case ke bench main Justice Gulzar aur Justice Khosa nahi hain, warna unke liye tu yeh case azaab hojata...

 

[PakSword]

Jahan tak Modi Nawaz dosti ka talluq hai...tu woh SC. Keh dey gi ke abhi humaray pass ek political party ka case hai..doosrun ka nahi. Waisy aaj PTI ke lawyer ne kaha hai ke foreign funding jo illegal hai..woh kulbhushan yadev jaisi foreign funding ka zikr hai, jaisy Kulbhushan funding karta tha, Pak ke against kaam karnay ke liye...

Mujhe lagta hai ke ye case is liye bhi SC ke liye mushkil hai ke ye panama case ke fauran baad hai...tu agar zara sa bhi aisa kuch impression mila ke SC is lenient on PTI, tu PML N shor machaa dey gi.. Aaj kal humara mulk..sirf aur sirf is basis par chal raha hai ke PML N shor na machaa dey.. Is liye unki marzo ke kaam kartay jayein..sirf is liye ke PML N shor na machaye.. Aaj kal har instituition sirf is fikr main hai ke kahin PML N. Ko koi baat buri na lag jaye.. Sab unhein manaany main lagay huay hain.. Is main Pakistan ka bera gharq hota hai, tu ho..bas PML N naraz na ho...

Pakistani courts ke majority judges technicalities par hi faislay detay hain.. Essence of law aur insaf ki basis par bhtt kam judges faislay detay hain

Main tu shukr karrahi hun ke is case ke bench main Justice Gulzar aur Justice Khosa nahi hain, warna unke liye tu yeh case azaab hojata...

Technical grounds pe tou yeh case khilaaf hai.. lekin phir inhain khul kar overseas Pakistanis aur ex-Pakistanis ke khilaaf bolna parega ke unn logon ka Pakistan aur Pakistani siasat se koi taaluq nahi hai..

Yeh wohi overseas Pakistanis hain jin ki remittances ki wajah se economy ko kuchh sahaara mila hua hai..

 

[Farah Sohail]

Technical grounds pe tou yeh case khilaaf hai.. lekin phir inhain khul kar overseas Pakistanis aur ex-Pakistanis ke khilaaf bolna parega ke unn logon ka Pakistan aur Pakistani siasat se koi taaluq nahi hai..

Yeh wohi overseas Pakistanis hain jin ki remittances ki wajah se economy ko kuchh sahaara mila hua hai..

Waisy aaj hearing ke end main shayad Chief Justice overseas Pakistanis ke favor main bolay hain.. CJ mujhe PTI ke against biased nahi lag rahay.. Hosakta hai ke ye case dismiss hojaye.. Esp aaj jo overseas Pakistanis ke favor main bolay jain CJ..us se umeed hai .. Aaj Hanif abbasi ke against bhi remarks diye hain CJ ne

https://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthr...e-Taking-Class-Of-Hanif-Abbasi-amp-His-Lawyer

 

[PakSword]

Waisy aaj hearing ke end main shayad Chief Justice overseas Pakistanis ke favor main bolay hain.. CJ mujhe PTI ke against biased nahi lag rahay.. Hosakta hai ke ye case dismiss hojaye.. Esp aaj jo overseas Pakistanis ke favor main bolay jain CJ..us se umeed hai .. Aaj Hanif abbasi ke against bhi remarks diye hain CJ ne

https://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthr...e-Taking-Class-Of-Hanif-Abbasi-amp-His-Lawyer

Kyun ke aaj PMLN ki company bhi saamnay aagaee naa.. iss liey bolna tou tha haq main overseas Pakistanis ke...

BTW, thanks for the link.. Will watch the video at home..

 

[Farah Sohail]

Kyun ke aaj PMLN ki company bhi saamnay aagaee naa.. iss liey bolna tou tha haq main overseas Pakistanis ke...

BTW, thanks for the link.. Will watch the video at home..

Hmm.. Ye wajah bhi hosakti hai overseas Pakistanis ke favor main bolnay ki.. But CJ also said this law is ambigous and vague.. Is ki basis par ek haara hua shakhs jeetnay walay candidate ke against...kaisy keh sakta hai ...disqualify karny ko? Aaj ki hearing ke baad thori umeed hai ke shayd PTI ban na ho.. Aur CJ ne yeh bhi kaha hai aaj ke agar PTI ke accounts EC ko diye verify karnay ko..tu sirf PTI ke nahi..sab parties ke accounts dein ge

 

[PakSword]

Hmm.. Ye wajah bhi hosakti hai overseas Pakistanis ke favor main bolnay ki.. But CJ also said this law is ambigous and vague.. Is ki basis par ek haara hua shakhs jeetnay walay candidate ke against...kaisy keh sakta hai ...disqualify karny ko? Aaj ki hearing ke baad thori umeed hai ke shayd PTI ban na ho.. Aur CJ ne yeh bhi kaha hai aaj ke agar PTI ke accounts EC ko diye verify karnay ko..tu sirf PTI ke nahi..sab parties ke accounts dein ge

I want ke this case is closed as soon as possible and the nation again starts focusing on Panama JIT..

This case has only been filed to divide attention..

 

[QatariPrince]

 

[Farah Sohail]

I want ke this case is closed as soon as possible and the nation again starts focusing on Panama JIT..

This case has only been filed to divide attention..

You are right.. Waisy media ka sab se ziada focus tu abhi bhi panama case par ki hai.. Is case ko media main itni lime light nahi mil rahi..jitni panama case ko mili thee.. But still jitni jaldi yeh case dismiss ho..itna hi acha hai.. Abhi tu yeh bhi dekhna hai ke reserve karnay ke kitnay din/months baad iska verdict aata hai? Kia iske liye bhi 2 months wait karna paray ga? Waisy ..aap ko kia lagta hai ke kitnay days main iski hearing complete hosakti hai? Aaj Anwar Mansoor ke bhi arguments conplete hogaye... I think Naeem bukhari tu pehlay hi complete kar chukay hain.. Ab bas..kia rebuttals reh gaye hain?

Waisy InshaAllah umeed hai ke panama se focus nahi hatay ga InshaAllah... JIT par abhi bhi sab ki nazrein hain aur bhi mostly talk shows panama case par hi hotay hain

 

[PakSword]

You are right.. Waisy media ka sab se ziada focus tu abhi bhi panama case par ki hai.. Is case ko media main itni lime light nahi mil rahi..jitni panama case ko mili thee.. But still jitni jaldi yeh case dismiss ho..itna hi acha hai.. Abhi tu yeh bhi dekhna hai ke reserve karnay ke kitnay din/months baad iska verdict aata hai? Kia iske liye bhi 2 months wait karna paray ga? Waisy ..aap ko kia lagta hai ke kitnay days main iski hearing complete hosakti hai? Aaj Anwar Mansoor ke bhi arguments conplete hogaye... I think Naeem bukhari tu pehlay hi complete kar chukay hain.. Ab bas..kia rebuttals reh gaye hain?

Waisy InshaAllah umeed hai ke panama se focus nahi hatay ga InshaAllah... JIT par abhi bhi sab ki nazrein hain aur bhi mostly talk shows panama case par hi hotay hain

Media se kafi shikayat hai aaj kal PMLN ko... woh kehtay hain ke unn ke leader ke baaray main case hua tou din raat aik kardia.. lekin IK ke khilaaf case ko media ne koi ehmiat hi nahi di.. even jo judges ke remarks hain unn pe bhi koi tawajjoh nahi deraha..

Koi detail bhi mojud nahi thi PTI aur IK ke khilaaf cases pe.. itni mushkil se kal pata chala aik local PTI official se ke chakkar asal main kia hai..

PMLN walay keh rahay hain ke unn ke saath aisa sautela suluk kyun kia ja raha hai..

Regarding your question ke kitnay din lagain ge? I think jaldi nimat jaega..

Haan, aaj meri baat huee thi legal officer se.. I mean the guy whom I was talking about yesterday.. he liked the note of Justice Khosa too much.. he says only brave people can write like this even in western democracies..

 

[Farah Sohail]

Media se kafi shikayat hai aaj kal PMLN ko... woh kehtay hain ke unn ke leader ke baaray main case hua tou din raat aik kardia.. lekin IK ke khilaaf case ko media ne koi ehmiat hi nahi di.. even jo judges ke remarks hain unn pe bhi koi tawajjoh nahi deraha..

Koi detail bhi mojud nahi thi PTI aur IK ke khilaaf cases pe.. itni mushkil se kal pata chala aik local PTI official se ke chakkar asal main kia hai..

PMLN walay keh rahay hain ke unn ke saath aisa sautela suluk kyun kia ja raha hai..

Regarding your question ke kitnay din lagain ge? I think jaldi nimat jaega..

Haan, aaj meri baat huee thi legal officer se.. I mean the guy about whom I was talking about yesterday.. he liked the notes of Justice Khosa too much.. he says only brave people can write like this even in western democracies..

Waisy waqayi IK walay case par kuch dhoondna bhtt mushkil hota hai.. Media par bilkol bhi ziada kuch nahi hota.. PML N ki atleast yeh shikayat tu jayz hai, loll..

Did tht legal officer object to tht Godfather reference, in panama verdict? What were his views on tht?

 

[PakSword]

Did tht legal officer object to tht Godfather reference, in panama verdict? What were his views on tht?

No.. he was just amazed.. he says that it is easier for a Judge to write something like like, if he is not dissenting, but a dissenting note, that too against a sitting PM, in a country where people object on Judiciary and people vote for families rather than parties, and knowing that his fellow judges are not even suspending PM, requires a lot of courage..

 

[Farah Sohail]

No.. he was just amazed.. he says that it is easier for a Judge to write something like like, if he is not dissenting, but a dissenting note, that too against a sitting PM, in a country where people object on Judiciary and people vote for families rather than parties, and knowing that his fellow judges are not even suspending PM, requires a lot of courage..

Yes.. Theres no doubt abt his courage.. Yehi tu hum bhi pehlay din se keh rahay thay..tht writing something like this..requires lot of courage and guts...

Ab 2018 elections main aayega asal maza...when he will be the CJ..tab Godfather party aur in jaison ko pata chalay ga,,, agar dhandli ki.,tu SC main challenge hojayega,, aur elections rigging ke baaray main inke kia views hain,mye tu hum 2002 walay verdict main dekh hi chukay hain, jab election rigging wasnt even an issue, and Musharraf was at peak of his popularity... Tu ab..as CJ woh kiya karein ge? We can all imagine

 

[PakSword]

Yes.. Theres no doubt abt his courage.. Yehi tu hum bhi pehlay din se keh rahay thay..tht writing something like this..requires lot of courage and guts...

Ab 2018 elections main aayega asal maza...when he will be the CJ..tab Godfather party aur in jaison ko pata chalay ga,,, agar dhandli ki.,tu SC main challenge hojayega,, aur elections rigging ke baaray main inke kia views hain,mye tu hum 2002 walay verdict main dekh hi chukay hain, jab election rigging wasnt even an issue, and Musharraf was at peak of his popularity... Tu ab..as CJ woh kiya karein ge? We can all imagine

Agree.

He will prove to be a bigger hurdle for NS & Co. in the next elections if goon league goes for rigging..