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If this JIT is going the above route then - Bonne nuit

It's open and shut case; write a letter to British Govt., obtain transaction records and land registry details for flats in London and cross check/match it with what is stated in Qatari letter and Ishaq Dar's affidavit under 164 - it seems this JIT is starting as Jatiumra's Insurance Treaty.

The JIT is going in the right direction in my opinion. It has been given a set of questions, has to work on all of them.. simultaneously. It can't just come up with its own strategy. There are some easy questions, and some extremely difficult ones.

The scope of JIT includes the following:

1 - How the Gulf Steel Mills in UAE came into being;
2 - What led to its sale;
3 - What happened to its liabilities;
4 - Where did its sale proceeds end up;
5 - How did they reach Jeddah, Qatar and the UK;
6 - Whether Hussain Nawaz and Hassan Nawaz in view of their tender ages had the means to possess and purchase the flats;
7 - Whether the sudden appearance of the letters of Hamad Bin Jassim Bin Jaber Al-Thani of the Qatar was a myth or a reality;
8 - How bearer shares crystallized into the four upscale flats in London;
9 - Who was the real and beneficial owner of Nielsen Enterprises Limited and Nescoll Limited;
10 - How did Hill Metal Establishment come into existence;
11 - Where did the money for Flagship Investment Limited and other companies set up or taken over by Hassan Nawaz;
12 - Where did the working capital for such companies come from; and
13 - Where do the huge sums running into millions gifted by Hussain Nawaz to the prime minister drop in from.

The questionnaire that has been sent to Qatari family is related to questions # 7, 8 and 9.

The land registry details in UK mention the name of Nielson and Nescoll as owners. It would have been very easy if the ownership was under shareef family. But it's not, unfortunately. That's what we have been discussing all along from the beginning.

To understand the owner of the companies, JIT will have to go to Panama, where these companies are registered. We don't have any exchange of information agreement with Panama.

JIT is going through the first steps of gathering information from everyone, including Qataris. Once the information is there, it will be clear as to where the investigation should be directed.
 
The JIT is going in the right direction in my opinion. It has been given a set of questions, has to work on all of them.. simultaneously. It can't just come up with its own strategy. There are some easy questions, and some extremely difficult ones.

The scope of JIT includes the following:

1 - How the Gulf Steel Mills in UAE came into being;
2 - What led to its sale;
3 - What happened to its liabilities;
4 - Where did its sale proceeds end up;
5 - How did they reach Jeddah, Qatar and the UK;
6 - Whether Hussain Nawaz and Hassan Nawaz in view of their tender ages had the means to possess and purchase the flats;
7 - Whether the sudden appearance of the letters of Hamad Bin Jassim Bin Jaber Al-Thani of the Qatar was a myth or a reality;
8 - How bearer shares crystallized into the four upscale flats in London;
9 - Who was the real and beneficial owner of Nielsen Enterprises Limited and Nescoll Limited;
10 - How did Hill Metal Establishment come into existence;
11 - Where did the money for Flagship Investment Limited and other companies set up or taken over by Hassan Nawaz;
12 - Where did the working capital for such companies come from; and
13 - Where do the huge sums running into millions gifted by Hussain Nawaz to the prime minister drop in from.

The questionnaire that has been sent to Qatari family is related to questions # 7, 8 and 9.

The land registry details in UK mention the name of Nielson and Nescoll as owners. It would have been very easy if the ownership was under shareef family. But it's not, unfortunately. That's what we have been discussing all along from the beginning.

To understand the owner of the companies, JIT will have to go to Panama, where these companies are registered. We don't have any exchange of information agreement with Panama.

JIT is going through the first steps of gathering information from everyone, including Qataris. Once the information is there, it will be clear as to where the investigation should be directed.

I just hope tht JIT is able to get the reqd help and cooperation from instituitions in Pakistan, and Pakistani embassies...which frankly i doubt.... Intentions and honesty of most JIT is unquestionable..but will they get reqd help? This is the most imp question, and after dawn leaks settlement..i am most worried abt this question only... Add to this, if JIT doesnt get reqd help.and evidence.......advocate and pakora judge will take this as proof of NS's innocence...and then we are doomed
 
and then we are doomed
:lol:

Mujhay ziada fikar iss ki khaey ja rahi hai..

Moody's says Pakistan's external debt will increase to $79 billion

ISLAMABAD: Moody’s Investors Service has predicted that Pakistan’s external debt will grow to $79 billion by June this year, higher than initial estimates suggested, and the country’s weak fiscal strength will weigh in on its ability to afford the ever growing debt burden.


In its latest report, Moody’s Investors Service – the international credit rating agency – said that Pakistan’s challenges include a relatively high general government debt burden, weak physical and social infrastructure, a fragile external payments position and high political risk.


By the end of fiscal year 2016-17, Pakistan’s external debt will increase to $79 billion out of which the public sector component will be $77.7 billion, according to Moody’s. The forecast for the outgoing fiscal year is much higher than what was earlier assessed on the basis of data released by the State Bank of Pakistan.
The central bank had shown total external debt and liabilities at $74.2 billion by the end of December 2016. This included $64.5 billion external debt.
 

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Main sach keh rahi hun... Abhi aap log mujh par yaqeen na karein lekin dawn leaks ke historic settlement ka panama JIT par bhi asar paray ga...because after historic uturn on dawn leaks..i dont think..instituitions will cooperate much with JIT :( :( mujhe lagta hai ke dawn leaks ki settlement ne sirf dawn leaks ka matter settle nahi kiya...balke panama JIT ko bhi settle kar diya hai :( :( :(
 
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Main sach keh rahi hun... Abhi aap log mujh par yaqeen na karein lekin dawn leaks ke historic settlement ka panama JIT par bhi asar paray ga...because after historic uturn on dawn leaks..i dont think..instituitions will cooperate much with JIT :( :( mujhe lagta hai ke dawn leaks ki settlement ne sirf dawn leaks ka matter settle nahibkiya...balke panama JIT ko bhi settle kar diya hai :( :( :(

Abhi tak tou saara record dhana dhan aaraha hai.. 3 din detey record ke liey, 1 din main aajata hai.. Hudaibiya ka record jo aaya hai, uss se kafi ummeed bandh chali hai.. Because it is the complete money trail and has answers to many questions.
 
If things are not phasing out as they should be corrected in time without bias and i am just afraid its not gonna be pretty.

It isn't pretty anyways .. the system is crashing and establishment can support it come what may but it will crash. Soft or hard, this may just be the only choice from the One.
 
It isn't pretty anyways .. the system is crashing and establishment can support it come what may but it will crash. Soft or hard, this may just be the only choice from the One.

Sir ji, aap ke comments parh ke taazgi ka ehsaas hota hai..
 
Abhi tak tou saara record dhana dhan aaraha hai.. 3 din detey record ke liey, 1 din main aajata hai.. Hudaibiya ka record jo aaya hai, uss se kafi ummeed bandh chali hai.. Because it is the complete money trail and has answers to many questions.

Waqayi...aisa hai? Tu achi baat hai lekin abhi bht kuch hona baqi hai..

Abhi tu JIT ko Pakistani embassies se bhi assistance chahye hogi.. Will they help? Esp one in qatar?
 
Waqayi...aisa hai? Tu achi baat hai lekin abhi bht kuch hona baqi hai..

Abhi tu JIT ko Pakistani embassies se bhi assistance chahye hogi.. Will they help? Esp one in qatar?

Jis se bilkul hi ummeed nahi thi.. uss ne kardia cooperate.. i.e. NAB.. tou yeh embassies tou chhoti cheez hain..

Aur waisay bhi, Qatari ziada se ziada kia karega.. Jawab nahi dega naa? tou 3 out of 13 questions will not be answered.. that's it?

Lekin kia ho agar beneficial ownership ki details Panama se hasil hojaein? Main uss din aap sab ki dawat karunga..

@Verve @Farah Sohail @El Sidd

@Dil Pakistan @Guvera @war&peace
 
Jis se bilkul hi ummeed nahi thi.. uss ne kardia cooperate.. i.e. NAB.. tou yeh embassies tou chhoti cheez hain..

Lekin NAB tu yaheen hai na? Embassies ke staff tu Pakistan main nahi hai...but directly under NS.. SC embassy staff ko thori Pakistan bulaa kar kahay gi ke JIT ko help karo..

Waisy NAB chairman ke khilaf reference bhi 16th ko lag raha hai... I hope NAB chairman ke against proceedings open hon.. Although judges ke against supreme judicial council ki proceedings in camera hoti hain.... And tht is understandable.. Lekin ye NAB chairman ke against PTI reference le kar gayi hai..hopefully woh open hearing hogi... Pata nahi...Justice Khosa wapis aagaye ya nahi? Unke pichlay week se koi case nahi lagg rahay.. I think he is not in Pak since May started... April ke end tak tu yaheen thay.. Shayad chutti par hain.. Lekin mujhe dar hai ke SJC main tu woh honge na? Us se bhi tu nahi is case ke liye nikal diye jayein ge ..bcoz he has already given remarks against NAB chairman in panama case? I hope ke aisa na ho..aur hona bhi nahi chahye

Lekin kia ho agar beneficial ownership ki details Panama se hasil hojaein? Main uss din aap sab ki dawat karunga..

@Verve @Farah Sohail @El Sidd

@Dil Pakistan @Guvera @war&peace

Kia waqayi aisa hosakta hai? Ye itna asaan nahi...bhtt mushkil hai ke original verfied documents regarding beneficial ownership of Maryam....ye JIT ko mil jaye.... Mushkil lag raha hai bhtt :(

agar hojaye tu waqayi bhtt maza aajaye.....lekin
 
Lekin NAB tu yaheen hai na? Embassies ke staff tu Pakistan main nahi hai...but directly under NS.. SC embassy staff ko thori Pakistan bulaa kar kahay gi ke JIT ko help karo..

Na karain cooperate.. 7,8 and 9 questions unanswered reh jaeingay..

Hudaibiya ko sahi se dekh lain bass. baqi sab khair hai..

Waisy NAB chairman ke khilaf reference bhi 16th ko lag raha hai... I hope NAB chairman ke against proceedings open hon.. Although judges ke against supreme judicial council ki proceedings in camera hoti hain.... And tht is understandable.. Lekin ye NAB chairman ke against PTI reference le kar gayi hai..hopefully woh open hearing hogi... Pata nahi...Justice Khosa wapis aagaye ya nahi? Unke pichlay week se koi case nahi lagg rahay.. I think he is not in Pak since May started... April ke end tak tu yaheen thay.. Shayad chutti par hain.. Lekin mujhe dar hai ke SJC main tu woh honge na? Us se bhi yu nahi is case ke liye nikal diye jayein ge ..bcoz he has already given remarks against NAB chairman in panama case? I hope ke aisa na ho..aur hona bhi nahi chahye

In shaa Allah woh zaroor hongay.. NAB chairman ki tou aisi bajegi.. SJC main...

Kia waqayi aisa hosakta hai? Ye itna asaan nahi...bhtt mushkil hai ke original verfied documents regarding beneficial ownership of Maryam....ye JIT ko mil jaye.... Mushkil lag raha hai bhtt :(

agar hojaye tu waqayi bhtt maza aajaye.....lekin

Hai tou mushkil, lekin na mumkin nahi hai..

Yeh money laundering ki tehqeeqat ho rahi hain.. Ordinary information ka tabadla nahi horaha.. Panama will have to cooperate due to some international obligations. Abb yeh monitoring bench pe hai ke sawalaat ko iss tarha frame karain ke money laundering se related matter ban jaey.. phir bhi der lagegi, lekin Panama will have to cooperate..

@Verve @Farah Sohail @Guvera

Yeh dekhain... kisi ne siasat pk pe lagai hai..

 
Jis se bilkul hi ummeed nahi thi.. uss ne kardia cooperate.. i.e. NAB.. tou yeh embassies tou chhoti cheez hain..

Aur waisay bhi, Qatari ziada se ziada kia karega.. Jawab nahi dega naa? tou 3 out of 13 questions will not be answered.. that's it?

Lekin kia ho agar beneficial ownership ki details Panama se hasil hojaein? Main uss din aap sab ki dawat karunga..

Iss poorey thread bas yehi baat hee kam kee niklee hey - before you change your mind, it is a sealed deal :yahoo:

@Verve @Farah Sohail @El Sidd @Guvera @war&peace[/QUOTE]
 
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