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Mujhe is liye lag raha hai kiun ke kisi judge ne hearing ke dauran bi zikr kiya tha ke hum khud hi is ko define kardein he....is case ke mutaabiq..something to tht effect..

Aur laws main jahan vaccum hota hai..mera khyal hai ke tab SC apni discretion use karsakta hai... Tab hi tu international laws aur cases ke referneces bhi diye jaatay hain verdicts main.. Agar sirf apnay hi available laws par faisla dena ho..ltu international cases ke reference kiun diye jaatay hain? Ke us mulk ke court ne similar case par ye verdict diya...doosray mulk ke court ne ye faisla diya? Kiun ke har mulk ke apnay laws hotay hain..ek doosray se mukhtalif....phir doosray mulkon ke cases kiun quote hotay hain verdicts main? Aisa wahan hi hota jahan kuch define karna ho...



Agar tu main verdict waisa hua..jaisy aap ne urti urti suni hai...tab i am sure ke dissenting note zuroor hoga.....is verdict main

@PakSword not.. Exactly related.......but judge ki disscretion bhi hot hai.. Jaisy ek case main, application of law k baaray main bataati hun....dependency ko tu yahan define nahi kiya gaya..lekin ek law ki interpretation/application ke case k baaray main bataati hun......Jaisy Justce Khosa ki book main ek case hai..jahan terrorism ko define kiya gaya hai... Bhtt detailed hai... He wrote tht as judge of lahore high court...Us case ke verdict ke background main unhon ne ye likha hai..ke ye jo verdict main ne likha hai..bhtt detailed hai..aur iss case par mujhe Supreme court se bhtt harsh remarks sunnay ko milay..and i knew tht at time of verdict ke aisa hoga.. Because i crtitcised few cases of Supreme court..ke terrorism ko define karnay main supreme court ne bhtt contradictory faislay diye hain..aur ek new ammendment humaray law main ki gayi hai...jis ko Supreme court ne new cases main khyal nahi rakha.. Kuch cases main woh abhi bhi puranay law ke basis par faislay de rahay hain aur kuch main new law ko apply kia hai.. Aur phir bhtt se international laws se bhi references de kar kaha tha unhon ne ..ke kiun humaray SC ki application of law..un kuch cases main theek nahi thee....

He said..phir SC ne apnay ek case main mere baaray main bhtt harsh remarks likhay thay.. But later, he said ...I got vindicated and it was very satsfying for me ke baad main SC ne meri judgement ko theek samjhaa...aur na sirf ye balke baad main meri is judgement ko as reference quote kiya..apni doosri judgements main... He even said tht i say to my friends in the Supreme court ..tht they owe me an apology for those remarks against me...Lolll...

So mera matlab ye kehnay ka hai..ke judges ki discretion hoti hai...aur bhtt matter karti hai, esp if its a larger bench of supreme court.... Is liye kabhi woh laws ko bhi dismiss karsaktay hain.... Yhan bhi woh chahein tu define karsaktay hain, dependency ko...

Maybe you are right.. Lekin upar jo aap ne bataya hai, uss main bhi aap ne likha hai "ek new ammendment humaray law main ki gayi hai jis ko Supreme court ne new cases main khyal nahi rakha.. Kuch cases main woh abhi bhi puranay law ke basis par faislay de rahay hain aur kuch main new law ko apply kia hai"..

Yehi main keh raha hun ke at least amendment tou thi.. aur judges puranay law ke mutabiq faislay de rahay thay.. Yahan tou dependency ke baaray main kuchh bhi nahi hai..

Khair Allah karay aap theek hon aur main ghalat.. Maza hi aajana hai phir tou waqai..

i have a very bad news,

It is not a bad new, it is in fact very good news.. We don't need elections on the basis of constituencies that were defined on some parties' likings or dislikings.

Some very interesting days ahead.

I hope ke agli baari EC ki ho.. Warna ye khabees phir se ulti seedhi halqa bandiaan kar dainge..
 
Maybe you are right.. Lekin upar jo aap ne bataya hai, uss main bhi aap ne likha hai "ek new ammendment humaray law main ki gayi hai jis ko Supreme court ne new cases main khyal nahi rakha.. Kuch cases main woh abhi bhi puranay law ke basis par faislay de rahay hain aur kuch main new law ko apply kia hai"..

Yehi main keh raha hun ke at least amendment tou thi.. aur judges puranay law ke mutabiq faislay de rahay thay.. Yahan tou dependency ke baaray main kuchh bhi nahi hai..

Khair Allah karay aap theek hon aur main ghalat.. Maza hi aajana hai phir tou waqai..

Mera khyal hai ke jahan law main vaccuum hota hai, wahan international examples se reference le kar judges khud case ke mutabiq define karsaktay hain.. Asal baat kia hai..woh tu koi legal expert hi bataa sakta hai... Or lets wait for panama verdict... Pata nahi...aur kitna intezar? :( :( :(
 
Iss se ziada aagay nahi janay wala faisla.. Anytime from between this Friday and next Friday..

:( :( chalein dekhtay hain... :(

Waisy main chahti t hoon ke is hi week aajaye..lekin agar 4th april ko aaya tu it will be very telling.. Judges kahin 4th april ka tu intezar nahi karrahay? Suna hai ke 4th April ko hi bhutto ko phansi hui thee, aur shayad Gilani ko bhi disqualify kia gaya tha..nusrat Javed was saying this...am not sure... Aur 3rd april ko panama leaks aayi theen... H sakta hai ke judges 4th ka intezar karrahy hun...lolll

Lekin bas...is week aajana chahye faisla :( :( :(

Waisy bhtt log keh rahay hain ke is verdict main ek dissenting note hai.... Ye baat waqayi credible hai..ya logon ki sirf assumptin..ye tu pata nahi..lekin bhtt log keh rahay hain

I am sure ke agar ye baat theek hai tu woh zuroor Advocate Ijaz Afzal ka hoga
 
Waisy main chahti t hoon ke is hi week aajaye..lekin agar 4th april ko aaya tu it will be very telling.. Judges kahin 4th april ka tu intezar nahi karrahay? Suna hai ke 4th April ko hi bhutto ko phansi hui thee, aur shayad Gilani ko bhi disqualify kia gaya tha..nusrat Javed was saying this...am not sure... Aur 3rd april ko panama leaks aayi theen... H sakta hai ke judges 4th ka intezar karrahy hun...lolll

Chahta tou main bhi yehi hun.

Aur Nusrat Javed tou ulti hi baat karta hai.. Yeh koi movie thori hai ke judges ko koi dates ka khayaal rakhna hai.. ke bhutto ko phansi huee thi ya panama leaks isi din aaye thay, tou hum bhi isi din faisla deingay.. Iss tarha agar courts ke matters chal rahay hotay tou kaam hochuka hota abb tak mulk ka..

Waisy bhtt log keh rahay hain ke is verdict main ek dissenting note hai.... Ye baat waqayi credible hai..ya logon ki sirf assumptin..ye tu pata nahi..lekin bhtt log keh rahay hain

Jo yeh bata raha hai ke aik dissenting note hai, usay yeh bhi pata hoga ke uss main kia likha hai... Sirf dissenting note parh ke suna de, main baqi ke chaar notes khud nikaal lunga..
 
Chahta tou main bhi yehi hun.

Jo yeh bata raha hai ke aik dissenting note hai, usay yeh bhi pata hoga ke uss main kia likha hai... Sirf dissenting note parh ke suna de, main baqi ke chaar notes khud nikaal lunga..

Agar tu verdict waqayi uss tarah ka hua..jaisy aap ne urti urti suni hai..phir i am sure...ke dissenting note zuroor hoga..woh bhi advocate ijaz afzal ka

Waisy lagta hai ke assumptions hi karrahay honge..log..jaisy hum apni apni assumptions karrahay... Hum jaison ko bhi lagta hai ke dissenting note hoga
 
Agar tu verdict waqayi uss tarah ka hua..jaisy aap ne urti urti suni hai..phir i am sure...ke dissenting note zuroor hoga..woh bhi advocate ijaz afzal ka

Waisy lagta hai ke assumptions hi karrahay honge..log..jaisy hum apni apni assumptions karrahay... Hum jaison ko bhi lagta hai ke dissenting note hoga

Dissenting note mujhay nahi lagta ke hoga.. warna advocate khabar kab ki bahir nikaal chuka hota agar bika hua hota tou.

@Verve @Arsalan

Kia Faislabad main bhi isi tarha taraqqi huee hai jaisay Multan main huee hai?
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@Farah Sohail

Aap aisay hi Karachi aur Sindh ki taraqqi se pareshaan hain.. Dekhain hamaray leaders ka sar fakhar se buland hokar chhat se takrachuka hai..

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Agar tu verdict waqayi uss tarah ka hua..jaisy aap ne urti urti suni hai..phir i am sure...ke dissenting note zuroor hoga..woh bhi advocate ijaz afzal ka

5 main se 1 dissenting note ka matlab hai 80% verdict PTI ke haq main.. Aap kyun mulk ko marwana chah rahi hain?

Dekhain hamaray azeem tajzia nigaar apni mahirana raey main kia farmarahay hain:

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@Verve @Arsalan

Kia Faislabad main bhi isi tarha taraqqi huee hai jaisay Multan main huee hai?

Europe? Nah. Far from it. Roads have gradually improved but work tends to be for elections.

SS may be measuring the quality of a 'patch of road' to those in Europe ... or maybe he's comparing to some rural part of Romania?
 
Dissenting note mujhay nahi lagta ke hoga.. warna advocate khabar kab ki bahir nikaal chuka hota agar bika hua hota tou.

@Verve @Arsalan

Kia Faislabad main bhi isi tarha taraqqi huee hai jaisay Multan main huee hai?
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@Farah Sohail

Aap aisay hi Karachi aur Sindh ki taraqqi se pareshaan hain.. Dekhain hamaray leaders ka sar fakhar se buland hokar chhat se takrachuka hai..

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5 main se 1 dissenting note ka matlab hai 80% verdict PTI ke haq main.. Aap kyun mulk ko marwana chah rahi hain?

Dekhain hamaray azeem tajzia nigaar apni mahirana raey main kia farmarahay hain:

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Advoate Ijaz Afzal verdict leak kar ke pehle se apni credibility kharab nahi karein ge

aur waisy bhi..ofcourse we don't know yet..ke waqayi paisy se bikey hain... hosakta hai ke aisa na ho....waisy yaqeen se buhtan bhi nahi lagaana chahye... jab humein confirm na ho
maybe Advocate is just another patwari

Waqayi.. Sindh ..esp Karachi main taraqqi ne tu hum sab ke hosh uraa diye... kachray ki taraqqi dekh kar hum sab ka sir fakhar se buland ho chukka hai

Waisy aaj Arif Nizami bhi yehi keh rahay thay ke aam ghareeb aadmi ka masla panama nahi, balke roti hai... arif Nizami bhi pakka noora lagta hai
 
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