Panama leak Case Proceedings - JIT Report, News, Updates And Discussion

[Amaa'n]

People are expecting too much from that upcoming Ch. Nisar press Conference. I think it is just a diversion. Awain attention divert kr raha ha, we should stay focused, the nation and our institutions should stay focused. There wont be any BIG NEWS in that press conference. I think he will just bash the speculations and rumors of him leaving PMLN and will announce that he is going to stay with the party.

Awain dhool jhoonk raha ha hmari ankoon mein.

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@The Sandman @Moonlight @Farah Sohail @PakSword @Inqlab-e-Pakistan @HRK @Verve @QatariPrince @The Accountant @Realistic Change

I feel the same ---- he just exaggerate all lot & media hypes it all up ---- while the outcome is 00000%

 

[The Sandman]

People are expecting too much from that upcoming Ch. Nisar press Conference. I think it is just a diversion. Awain attention divert kr raha ha, we should stay focused, the nation and our institutions should stay focused. There wont be any BIG NEWS in that press conference. I think he will just bash the speculations and rumors of him leaving PMLN and will announce that he is going to stay with the party.

Awain dhool jhoonk raha ha hmari ankoon mein.

https://twitter.com/x/status/888635601209217025

@The Sandman @Moonlight @Farah Sohail @PakSword @Inqlab-e-Pakistan @HRK @Verve @QatariPrince @The Accountant @Realistic Change

He is a loyal n leagi not a puppet of sharif mafia he's never gonna leave PMLN aewiin log khush ho rhe hain aur ye geo tv pata ni kyun tula hua hai isse farigh krwane ke lye kl bhi iske resignation ki jhuti khabar chaladi

 

[expert]

PM being chairman of board of directors of FZE company which PM has accepted.. Its an undisputed fact now

Does that prove dishonesty? Has the PM ever been required to disclose that he was a chairman of a company? Sheikh Rasheed's argument that a person cannot be honest in Lahore and dishonest in Islamabad may come into play. For this however, it has to be proved that the PM lied on the UAE visa application. However, whenever I have applied for a UAE visa, the travel agent write different occupations each time without my knowledge. In the case of Nawaz, he SHOULD have known that he dishonest representations were being made and if he did sign the visa document, he was dishonest. Unfortunately, the petitioners failed to bring up this point.

 

[Strike!]

Hero’s welcome for JIT members at Islamabad Club​

Hope other members get a similar reception elsewhere.

 

[Arsalan]

He is a loyal n leagi not a puppet of sharif mafia he's never gonna leave PMLN aewiin log khush ho rhe hain aur ye geo tv pata ni kyun tula hua hai isse farigh krwane ke lye kl bhi iske resignation ki jhuti khabar chaladi

I feel the same ---- he just exaggerate all lot & media hypes it all up ---- while the outcome is 00000%

To me it is all according to a plan, create hype, gather attentions and with all eyes on you, start talking good about NS. Those favorable comments coming from a person like Ch. Nisar who is this case is bring portrayed as a true patriotic Pakistani and an honest man will actually hold MUCH MORE WEIGHT than what Daniyal Aziz or Talal Chaudray will have! It seems that this is all just to do a high profile press conference in FAVOR of NS! That is it. lets see!

 

[expert]

Guys relax...Nawaz sharif INSHALLAH Disqualify hoga reason.

Most important judges said throughout five days if ownership of flats and money trail not given then Nawaz shairf held accountable because at that time hussan hussain marium have no source of income.

So relax this decision at least 3-2 in Pakistan favour by the way me expecting 5 Nil.

Did they not say on Thursday/Friday that it wasn't proved that Maryam wasn't the PM's dependent?

 

[The Sandman]

To me it is all according to a plan, create hype, gather attentions and with all eyes on you, start talking good about NS. Those favorable comments coming from a person like Ch. Nisar who is this case is bring portrayed as a true patriotic Pakistani and an honest man will actually hold MUCH MORE WEIGHT than what Daniyal Aziz or talal Chaudray will have! It seems that this is all just to do a high profile press conference in FAVOR of NS! That is it. lets see!

You think ye ns ke haq mein ustarha bolega jis tarhan talal aur baqi roaches bhonkte hain?

 

[QatariPrince]

 

[Arsalan]

You think ye ns ke haq mein ustarha bolega jis tarhan talal aur baqi roaches bhonkte hain?

With one difference

Wo BHONKTAY hein

Yeh BOLAY ga!!

Un ko daik ka aap sb, HUM sb channel he change kr lyty hein while is na itni hype create ke hoi ha ka everyone will be in front of TV to watch his press conference tomorrow.

Jhooti khabar!!

Wo jo in ko Haram khany ke bimari ha woo? Wo kis khaty mein?

DACTAR KO PATA HE KUCH NI!!

 

[expert]

Why is the court asking NB stupid questions about JIT? They have had a week to read the damned report themselves, that was the point wasn't it.

They are asking questions because the want the petitioners to bring forward arguments. They need to record what the petitioners are saying. Going by the original judgement, it seems that Naeem Bukhari actually did well on the first day.

 

[The Sandman]

Un ko daik ka aap sb, HUM sb channel he change kr lyty hein while is na itni hype create ke hoi ha ka everyone will be in front of TV to watch his press conference tomorrow.

lekin ye bnda ek baat krne mein 1 ghanta laga deta hai

 

[expert]

جعلی دستاویزات پیش کرنےپرفوجداری مقدمہ بنتاہے،نعیم بخاری
بینفشرمالک ہونےکافرق نوازشریف کوپڑسکتا ہے؟جسٹس اعجازافضل
فرق تب پڑےگاجب مریم والدکےزیرکفالت ثابت ہوں گی،جسٹس اعجازافضل

I'm going through the judge's comment which is letting me understand the legal hurdles faced by the Court. It looks like Nawaz Sharif won't be held accountable for the London flats because the petitioners have been unable to prove Maryam was a dependent on Nawaz Sharif.

Advocate says ke Maryam nawaz ki beneficial ownership..sabit honay ka nawaz sharif par asar sirf tab hosakta hai jab woh NS ki dependent sabit ho... Aur woh tu 2 judges bhi keh chukay hian ke she is not dependent..she is rich in her own right..uske naam properties .. Phir bhi NS ko disqualify kia..

Advocate ne tu keh diya ke sirf dependent sabit ho aur uski beneficial pwnership sabit hogayi..tu NS par asar paray ga..

Advocate ke iraaday theek nahi hain

Exactly! You said this on Monday but this is what's going to happen.

 

[Shane]

Does that prove dishonesty? Has the PM ever been required to disclose that he was a chairman of a company? Sheikh Rasheed's argument that a person cannot be honest in Lahore and dishonest in Islamabad may come into play. For this however, it has to be proved that the PM lied on the UAE visa application. However, whenever I have applied for a UAE visa, the travel agent write different occupations each time without my knowledge. In the case of Nawaz, he SHOULD have known that he dishonest representations were being made and if he did sign the visa document, he was dishonest. Unfortunately, the petitioners failed to bring up this point.

Please think about your title before posting. It's about failure to disclose essential information by the defendant that judges have made sure themselves that there is no doubt a serious omission on his part. An omission that may yet cost him his premiership.

Talal however has said something new meaning we may see their handy work of more manufactured docs.

He said that these FZE company info although not mentioned in writing (wink wink) but documents are attached with his nomination papers for 2013 elections, lol.

They are preparing grounds for the appeal already too, lol.

So we may find out that these docs are in election commission possession due to some miracle of nature and some clerks at some lawyers office forgot to attach supplementary forms that included the required entries.

The rock that will surely sink the ship is the missing money trail that was required to be provided by defendants.

 

[expert]

Please think about your title before posting. It's about failure to disclose essential information by the defendant that judges have made sure themselves that there is no doubt a serious omission on his part. An omission that may yet cost him his premiership.

Talal however has said something new meaning we may see their handy work of more manufactured docs.

He said that these FZE company info although not mentioned in writing (wink wink) but documents are attached with his nomination papers for 2013 elections, lol.

They are preparing grounds for the appeal already too, lol.

So we may find out that these docs are in election commission possession due to some miracle of nature and some clerks at some lawyers office forgot to attach supplementary forms that included the required entries.

The rock that will surely sink the ship is the missing money trail that was required to be provided by defendants.

I still don't understand on what legal basis does this show that Nawaz Sharif was ever required to disclose this information? Does this proof dishonesty? The only way the judges can disqualify Nawaz Sharif is if they can show in their judgement that Nawaz Sharif was dishonest. They've already laid the grounds that will be needed (by the three members) to show that. None of the judges' grounds have been satisfied in my opinion. On the otherhand, the JIT report does bring some serious allegations and the pressure of the media and public demanding justice will have to be considered. That's why I think it will be an interesting judgement. I think they will send it to an Accountability Court but just like the JIT, the plaintiffs will be empowered by the SC.

judiciary to whole nation: "you know that NS is corrupt . we know that NS is corrupt. the whole nation knows that NS is corrupt but where is the evidence that he is corrupt? nation to SC : here is the evidence that NS is corrupt. SC : we dont find it sufficient to take any action against him so STFU and get lost. " this is going to happen in next few weeks in pakistan. meanwhile IK will be disqualified for not fulfilling the criteria of article 62-63

You said it. Apart from the last sentence.

1. وزیراعظم سےلندن فلیٹس کاپوچھاگیاتوانہوں نےکہامعلوم نہیں،شایدحسن مالک ہے،عدالت

Does this show dishonesty now that it's established Maryam was the beneficial owner?

 

[Shane]

I still don't understand on what legal basis does this show that Nawaz Sharif was ever required to disclose this information? Does this proof dishonesty? The only way the judges can disqualify Nawaz Sharif is if they can show in their judgement that Nawaz Sharif was dishonest. They've already laid the grounds that will be needed (by the three members) to show that. None of the judges' grounds have been satisfied in my opinion. On the otherhand, the JIT report does bring some serious allegations and the pressure of the media and public demanding justice will have to be considered. That's why I think it will be an interesting judgement. I think they will send it to an Accountability Court but just like the JIT, the plaintiffs will be empowered by the SC.



You said it. Apart from the last sentence.

Does this show dishonesty now that it's established Maryam was the beneficial owner?

I am flabbergasted by the logic you put forward. How do I prove that I breath oxygen. I am lost for words.

Should I contest or should I rest my case till a verdict is out.