Panama Case - Post Verdict Discussion and Updates

[TheDarkKnight]

Is that why judges and generals are exempt from the same accountability process they wish to apply to the politicians?

Oh I thought we could continue with the horse race metaphor, I could say they are not the horses in the race so their accountability maybe temporarily overlooked for now? but fine lets discontinue this ...

Lack of accountability of generals and judges doesnt justify no accountability of politicians - infact the type of accountability politicians are going through these days - if done completely as it seems - it would only encourage accountability of the so called ‘holy cows’ as well. They have also made transgressions and only with a relatively morally, ethically and financially clean poltical class can ensure that day will come when generals and judges and all other untouchables are also held accountable for thier actions. So if you are a supporter of accountability of generals then I would relax sit back and enjoy.

 

[Shane]

NS won the last election. The proper way to remove him is by the next elections, not by a manufactured judicial soft coup.

Why not start with his first election? Rigged in favour of Nawaz!

Why not undo that to start off ?
A Planted politician to start with!

Lets see if his successors can make it on their own instead of establishment support. Why run away from such a simple fix?

 

[VCheng]

Why not start with his first election? Rigged in favour of Nawaz!

Why not undo that to start off ?
A Planted politician to start with!

Lets see if his successors can make it on their own instead of establishment support. Why run away from such a simple fix?

Sir, how conveniently you forget just who planted this fake politician into the election system to start with!

 

[Shane]

LOL. In "good time", just like "elections in 90 days". Yeah, very believable.

I will believe if it ever happens.

Lol I agree! Can you imagine that? Promise of Elections in 90 days is nothing compared to 35 years of perpetual rule starting with sitting on the shoulders of Zia

 

[VCheng]

Oh I thought we could continue with the horse race metaphor, I could say they are not the horses in the race so their accountability maybe temporarily overlooked for now? but fine lets discontinue this ...

Lack of accountability of generals and judges doesnt justify no accountability of politicians - infact the type of accountability politicians are going through these days - if done completely as it seems - it would only encourage accountability of the so called ‘holy cows’ as well. They have also made transgressions and only with a relatively morally, ethically and financially clean poltical class can ensure that day will come when generals and judges and all other untouchables are also held accountable for thier actions. So if you are a supporter of accountability of generals then I would relax sit back and enjoy.

Selective accountability is worse than no accountability at all since it distorts the entire process according to the illegal will of a few, which is the intent of course.

 

[Shane]

Sir, how conveniently you forget just who planted this fake politician into the election system to start with!

Lol, who is forgetting sir? You or I ? Suddenly your lot has gone Nazaryati?

 

[VCheng]

Lol I agree! Can you imagine that? Promise of Elections in 90 days is nothing compared to 35 years of perpetual rule starting with sitting on the shoulders of Zia

The Army created NS, and the Army has taken him down. NS is just a stupid puppet, just like Imran Khan and so many others.

Lol, who is forgetting sir? You or I ? Suddenly your lot has gone Nazaryati?

I have always called NS for what he is - a creation of the Army as part of their ongoing illegal meddling in politics.

 

[Farah Sohail]

and where has it got them so far? all failed attempts of screaming and shouting ... same will be repeated

I think..this time..their objection will still be valid because..in panama verdict..Justice Khosa has really given his verdict on hudaibya case too by saying tht LHC did wrong by quashing tht reference ... so ..if sharif family's lawyers object on his presence in the bench..it will have weight..because they will say tht Justice Khosa has already made his mind abt this case so he wont be neutral

Watch this clip of Maryam Aurangzeb

And i think..he might excuse himself..from this bench just like he did when he excused himself from SJC proceedings

Justice Khosa recuses himself from SJC proceedings

ISLAMABAD: Justice Asif Saeed Khosa, the senior most judge of the Supreme Court, has recused himself from the Supreme Judicial Council (SJC) proceedings against a Lahore High Court (LHC) judge being tried for alleged misconduct.

According to sources, Justice Khosa has informed the SJC chairman – Chief Justice of Pakistan Mian Saqib Nisar – in writing that he cannot be part of the five-judge council.

On May 18, Khawaja Haris, counsel for the LHC judge, appeared before the SJC and raised objections to the presence of Justice Khosa in the council, arguing that the senior judge had authored the judgment on the basis of which the misconduct proceedings were initiated.

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Also...for his own good..its better tht Justice Khosa backs out from this bench.. sharifs are ghatya ppl...sharifs will attack him personally with even more venom..... koi zuroorat nahi..inhein apnay aap ko dobara mushkil aur controversy main daalnay ki...

 

[Shane]

Selective accountability is worse than no accountability at all since it distorts the entire process according to the illegal will of a few, which is the intent of course.

I'm sure you are referring about the selective accountability started by Nawaz against PPP? How the hearts and minds have changed all of a sudden!

 

[VCheng]

I'm sure you are referring about the selective accountability started by Nawaz against PPP? How the hearts and minds have changed all of a sudden!

No Sir, I am talking about the selective accountability used by the Army as a tool when needed. What NS did to PP was the same process, and an equally abhorrent miscarriage of justice.

 

[Shane]

The Army created NS, and the Army has taken him down. NS is just a stupid puppet, just like Imran Khan and so many others.



I have always called NS for what he is - a creation of the Army as part of their ongoing illegal meddling in politics.

Ok, so your jehad is against any meddling of establishment?

 

[VCheng]

Ok, so your jehad is against any meddling of establishment?

I support the rule of law according to the Constitution for everyone. Without fear, or favor.

 

[TheDarkKnight]

NS won the last election. The proper way to remove him is by the next elections, not by a manufactured judicial soft coup.

You should not be allowed in politics or become head of state if you are corrupt, and use the illegal money to expand your poltical empire and continue ruling the country - lookup up how richard nixon was investigated for corruption and forced to step down even though he won the elections. Same as Donald trump and his campaign is being investigated for russion collusion and obstruction of justice charges. There are ways to make black money white, but getting elected is not one of them.

 

[Shane]

No Sir, I am talking about the selective accountability used by the Army as a tool when needed. What NS did to PP was the same process, and an equally abhorrent miscarriage of justice.

Not this time sir. Army is just calling a spade a spade. If they have decided to do that then only time will prove it's worth. Why are you so eager to draw negative assumptions based on your past or present grudges?

 

[VCheng]

You should not be allowed in politics or become head of state if you are corrupt, and use the illegal money to expand your poltical empire and continue ruling the country - lookup up how richard nixon was investigated for corruption and forced to step down even though he won the elections. Same as Donald trump and his campaign is being investigated for russion collusion and obstruction of justice charges. There are ways to make black money white, but getting elected is not one of them.

When was Nixon PM of Pakistan?

Not this time sir. Army is just calling a spade a spade. If they have decided to do that then only time will prove it's worth. Why are you so eager to draw negative assumptions based on your past or present grudges?

LOL. The claims of "this time it is different" are patently dishonest, and time will surely reveal that to be the case, like all the times before. I have no grudges, since I can afford to speak the truth freely as I have no horse in the race except the country itself. There is no rush.