Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.

[Sulman Badshah]

New G-3 with transparent Mag and new stock

One is Maldives delegation and other is from Egyptian delegation

 

[Zarvan]

New G-3 with transparent Mag and new stock

One is Maldives delegation and other is from Egyptian delegation
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Why are they wasting time on G3 ? Or are they planning to export G3 to African and other countries with less budget

 

[Zarvan]

@balixd A Friend claims that Pakistan is buying latest machinery from Turkey for POF to produce Pakistan's new Assault Rifle. Do you have any news about it ?

 

[S.U.R.B.]

The concept of an Intelligent rail introduced by Beretta is really sweet.
It's a step from a normal assault weapon towards a modern smart Assault weapon.

Link: http://www.berettadefensetechnologies.com/arx-intelligent-rail

Whether they can sell this to the PA or not,but this thing opens up a whole new world of options and comforts for it's operator which like other factors can not be ignored.More than that beyond the ARX-200 they are going to develop another marksman rifle (DMR), which seems promising.

 

[PAR 5]

@balixd A Friend claims that Pakistan is buying latest machinery from Turkey for POF to produce Pakistan's new Assault Rifle. Do you have any news about it ?

POF just signed an MoU with an Italian company called MECHANICA for the upgradtion of its manufacturing facilities. This also given credibility to the fact I mentioned earlier that POF is trying to develop an Assault Rifle itself as well.

And why sell a defunct G3 to the Maldives when our own Army is trying to get rid of it?

 

[Zarvan]

 

[ali_raza]

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damn good yaar

 

[Zarvan]

 

[Zarvan]

@balixd Sir any updates ???? @kaonalpha @Icarus @F.O.X

 

[Wolfhound]

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@balixd Sir any updates ???? @kaonalpha @Icarus @F.O.X

Sir they're gearing up for round 2, nothing is decided yet but the good news is that the FN Scar is on top and has had the best performance with lowest amount of stoppages in the first round.

 

[Zarvan]

Sir they're gearing up for round 2, nothing is decided yet but the good news is that the FN Scar is on top and has had the best performance with lowest amount of stoppages in the first round.

Thanks for the news and I am seriously praying for FN SCAR

 

[Zarvan]

 

[Thorough Pro]

If the customer starts to disclose the comparative performance of competing platforms, he is basically shooting himself in the leg by strengthening the stance of the possible winner when time comes to negotiate the price and terms. Your supplier must never know how far ahead or back it is with reference to other competitors to remain competitive in price negotiations. If you tell them beforehand that all others failed to meet the requirement, what do you expect in pricing?

A smart customer would say (at least in public) that the competition is very close with very minor differences in performance and we can choose anyone of the top three or four contenders.......so when there is no difference in performance the only thing that tilts the balance in a contender's favour is the pricing, terms etc.

but that is for smart customers and Pakistanis have always been stupid braggers.......

Sir they're gearing up for round 2, nothing is decided yet but the good news is that the FN Scar is on top and has had the best performance with lowest amount of stoppages in the first round.

 

[Arsalan]

am i too late to join the party????

Weapons are out of PoF again --- and send back for second round to Kharian---- now what is in the round 2 is very unclear ----
but that is what has been said on chats --- you guys ask me questions at the wrong time

It is the same dear, the guns were brought back for some analysis and a few new options have joined now so these have been sent back for testing. The initial claims that these are being tested in battlefield were never true @Zarvan , I confirmed you at that time as well. These always were in too limited numbers to make it to operations and were always being evaluated at ranges. That is what will continue for now. FN SCAR performance is surely best but there are other guns in close competition and there will be factors other then these tests as well when making the final decision.
Had a detailed discussion just yesterday and you people need to sit tight for a few more weeks.
Also the plan is not to directly go for replacement of the whole army as i mentioned and now have been confirmed. The news that confused almost everyone was that that idea of this new guns is that it can replace the guns of whole army, AT SOME POINT in time! If that was not the case we would have just bought a few thousand guns directly however all this effort being put is is because the authorities want to select a gun that MAY be able to replace the guns in whole of army at some time, that will take years, years as in decades!!
For now the procurement will be for some selected units and then a decision will be made only afterwards, no matter how news channels chose to twist the words to say otherwise. Numbers we will be looking at are 10000 to 12000. It is likely that since the gun will be selected only once it is deemed suitable to be used with whole army one day and because G3 are getting old and need to be replaced this new guns do gets inducted with whole army in some years. However there still are some people in key positions that are in strong support of a locally made gun. We may see a product resulting from experiences of G3 and the new selected gun and this current trails only select gun that remain with some special units. However, this is far too early to pass on any judgements on that issue.

 

[Zarvan]

It is the same dear, the guns were brought back for some analysis and a few new options have joined now so these have been sent back for testing. The initial claims that these are being tested in battlefield were never true @Zarvan , I confirmed you at that time as well. These always were in too limited numbers to make it to operations and were always being evaluated at ranges. That is what will continue for now. FN SCAR performance is surely best but there are other guns in close competition and there will be factors other then these tests as well when making the final decision.
Had a detailed discussion just yesterday and you people need to sit tight for a few more weeks.
Also the plan is not to directly go for replacement of the whole army as i mentioned and now have been confirmed. The news that confused almost everyone was that that idea of this new guns is that it can replace the guns of whole army, AT SOME POINT in time! If that was not the case we would have just bought a few thousand guns directly however all this effort being put is is because the authorities want to select a gun that MAY be able to replace the guns in whole of army at some time, that will take years, years as in decades!!
For now the procurement will be for some selected units and then a decision will be made only afterwards, no matter how news channels chose to twist the words to say otherwise. Numbers we will be looking at are 10000 to 12000. It is likely that since the gun will be selected only once it is deemed suitable to be used with whole army one day and because G3 are getting old and need to be replaced this new guns do gets inducted with whole army in some years. However there still are some people in key positions that are in strong support of a locally made gun. We may see a product resulting from experiences of G3 and the new selected gun and this current trails only select gun that remain with some special units. However, this is far too early to pass on any judgements on that issue.

What new options have arrived ? Although they would fail to beat FN SCAR. New Gun by POF is not a good idea

It is the same dear, the guns were brought back for some analysis and a few new options have joined now so these have been sent back for testing. The initial claims that these are being tested in battlefield were never true @Zarvan , I confirmed you at that time as well. These always were in too limited numbers to make it to operations and were always being evaluated at ranges. That is what will continue for now. FN SCAR performance is surely best but there are other guns in close competition and there will be factors other then these tests as well when making the final decision.
Had a detailed discussion just yesterday and you people need to sit tight for a few more weeks.
Also the plan is not to directly go for replacement of the whole army as i mentioned and now have been confirmed. The news that confused almost everyone was that that idea of this new guns is that it can replace the guns of whole army, AT SOME POINT in time! If that was not the case we would have just bought a few thousand guns directly however all this effort being put is is because the authorities want to select a gun that MAY be able to replace the guns in whole of army at some time, that will take years, years as in decades!!
For now the procurement will be for some selected units and then a decision will be made only afterwards, no matter how news channels chose to twist the words to say otherwise. Numbers we will be looking at are 10000 to 12000. It is likely that since the gun will be selected only once it is deemed suitable to be used with whole army one day and because G3 are getting old and need to be replaced this new guns do gets inducted with whole army in some years. However there still are some people in key positions that are in strong support of a locally made gun. We may see a product resulting from experiences of G3 and the new selected gun and this current trails only select gun that remain with some special units. However, this is far too early to pass on any judgements on that issue.

What new options have arrived ? Although they would fail to beat FN SCAR. New Gun by POF is not a good idea