Pakistan's New F-16 Block 52 vs SU 30 MKI.

[skynet]

During an exercise between J-11s and JF-17s, the Thunder would repeatedly pick up the huge RCS of the clean J-11 before it detected the smaller fighter, by that time JF-17 would have already launched a simulated missile attack and broken off. What to say of an engagement between the subjects. Does anyone have a clue the size of RCS the MKI generates even in the clean configuration.

and you got that from??

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

The current Russian BVR's in indian inventory have a 90% kill ratio at 40% of their total range---otoh---the aim has 95 % kill ratio at 70% of its max range and the PL12 has 95 % kill ratio at 60% of its max range.

 

[Storm Force]

Mica has a 90%,kill ratio at sixty km.

We can all play with nos.

 

[sathya]

we haven decided on BVR missile for rafales ?
mica or meteor?

 

[cerberus]

we haven decided on BVR missile for rafales ?
mica or meteor?

mica is Standard BVR for Rafale maybe last Squadron will get Meteor

 

[special]

There is an obvious pattern here, it involves day dreaming, wet dreaming and delusions ---

Last I heard the full order of 272 MKI aircrafts was supposed to be fulfilled by 2019 thanks to the delays etc, the 5th generation PAK-Fa was delayed and even with "fast tracking" do you really think you could produce 100 examples of a jet in 5 years which isn't even currently in service with its manufacturer , LCA hasn't even achieved its FOC yet and you've already replaced your Mig-21's with it in 2017 ---

I mean like, optimism is good but what you guys are suggesting is that your airforce will induct more fighter jets in 5 years then it has in 2 decades combined and that too involves jets that haven't even put in service by their manufacturers as yet or are still struggling with their clearances---


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don't you now that tajes is now under production and IAF start receiving the tajes into its operational squanders. it is the FOC which is get delayed.
FGFA project get delayed, but india will get PAK FA till the FGFA is ready.

 

[abdulbarijan]

don't you now that tajes is now under production and IAF start receiving the tajes into its operational squanders. it is the FOC which is get delayed.
FGFA project get delayed, but india will get PAK FA till the FGFA is ready.

I didn't actually --- well anyways, looking back at the history of delays -- do you really think HAL will achieve a 16A/C per year to even complete the MK-1 by 2018 and here you are claiming this

mig 21 will be completely replaced with tajes in 4 years. retirement will start from 2017. india will receive pak fa initially, just like SU 30 mk IAF received in 2000. no of MMRCA didn't cut down, negotiation is still in progress. 36 is just for giving enough time for air force for negotiation and to maintain qualitative edge. 36 no. of rafael have noting to do with MMRCA negotiations.

and how about you explain how a "still in testing" Pak-Fa will be in SERVICE with the IAF in the immediate future --- when even the Russians haven't inducted it as of yet ...

As of now the estimates you present seem more like delusions then estimates --

 

[Sinnerman108]

lol, at the time pak air force have 150 JF-17 toys and 70 f-16, indian air force will have 270 su 30mkis.
su 30 mkis are much superior in capability. SU 27, the basic model of the su 30 is developed to counter F-15, which is a heavy fighter with more capable than f-16. so your statement is just an imagination. your f-16 are no mach for su-30 and rafael jets. indian air force s technologically and numerically superior to PAF

It is funny you are quoting recent future.

India has seen use of guided arrows, and MIRV trishuls since thousands of years ago.

I don't know why no one in India tries to go after that technology; why are indians running after outside technology ?

 

[Thunder.Storm]

The SU-30 can track targets as far away as 350km, and bombers as far as 400km, how does the F-16's radar compair?

290 kms see wikipedia

 

[special]

It is funny you are quoting recent future.

India has seen use of guided arrows, and MIRV trishuls since thousands of years ago.

I don't know why no one in India tries to go after that technology; why are indians running after outside technology ?

 

[Dazzler]

don't you now that tajes is now under production and IAF start receiving the tajes into its operational squanders. it is the FOC which is get delayed.
FGFA project get delayed, but india will get PAK FA till the FGFA is ready.

They delivered 1 aircraft in 6 years and here you are expecting the unexpected.

 

[special]

and how about you explain how a "still in testing" Pak-Fa will be in SERVICE with the IAF in the immediate future --- when even the Russians haven't inducted it as of yet ...

As of now the estimates you present seem more like delusions then estimates --

pak fa will enter RuAF very soon, may be in 2017

 

[Dazzler]

pak fa will enter RuAF very soon, may be in 2017

Thump ur chest when it does, for now, its nothing more than a test aircraft with plenty of complains attached .

 

[special]

They delivered 1 aircraft in 6 years and here you are expecting the unexpected.

don't you know that the aircraft similar to SU 30 mki entered into RuAF recently. while indian air force introduce it in 2000s..
russia is not US, it don't matter if the PAk FA is introduced in RuAF or not, it will be in indian air force before 2020.

Thump ur chest when it does, for now, its nothing more than a test aircraft with plenty of complains attached .

every aircraft will have to face complains, it don't mean that the aircraft is not going to introduce in time.

 

[Neemo neemo]

It is funny you are quoting recent future.

India has seen use of guided arrows, and MIRV trishuls since thousands of years ago.

I don't know why no one in India tries to go after that technology; why are indians running after outside technology ?

Your usual ranting about vedic tech is Off-Topic but since you are hell bent on trolling, let me tell you we do it Because we got money to buy. We do not have to depend of foreign aid which comes with drone killings.