Sir if you read my post again my humble opinion was about AWACS backed Vipers which brings it to the same range and with a lot more details which can be entered into F-16 Core mission processing computer and it would decide how to shoot the flanker down.
(BTW MKI can be detected from 400kms through AWACS or ground stations due to its bulky size )
Firstly, this thread is about F-16 vs. MKI, not AWACS, but if you want to go there, then India has AWACS too. Is AWACS always an option?
Indeed this is an MKI advantage but Let me tell you Russian missiles are not very trust able and F-16's will make sure they are safe , Thanks to their Advanced Electronic countermeasures.
Not trustable, are we compairing Russian technology from 30 years ago?
Russian missle are not easily fooled by counter measures:
This is in line with the Russian practice of attacking targets by
firing pairs of missiles with different homing systems. This complicates end-game defensive actions for the target aircraft, as it needs to successfully defeat two homing systems.
Vympel R-77 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
* Correction my friend.
AMRAAM uses two-stage guidance when fired at long range. The aircraft passes data to the missile just before launch, giving it information about the location of the target aircraft from the launch point and its direction and speed. The missile uses this information to fly on an interception course to the target using its built in
inertial navigation system (INS). This information is generally obtained using the launching aircraft's radar, although it could come from an
infrared search and tracking system (IRST), from a data link from another fighter aircraft, or from an AWACS aircraft.
Is this AIM-120C, AIM-120D, or something else? Please post your link, so i can see for myself.
AIM-120D's Range
AIM-120's range is 130 Miles = 209.17km
app ( real range is classified )
Again please post a link. My reasearch got me a different estimate:
Formerly known as AIM-120C-8, the AIM-120D has a two-way data link, more accurate navigation using a GPS-enhanced IMU, an expanded no-escape envelope, improved HOBS (High-Angle Off-Boresight) capability, and a 50% increase in range, bring it to the
180 km class. The AIM-120D is a joint US Air Force/US Navy project.
Raytheon (Hughes) AIM-120 AMRAAM - Scramble
That is about the same range as the R-77, but no where near the Novator K-100 range of 400 km. Also the AIM-120D is suppost to have 50% greater range then the standard AIM-120, so 209 km is probably an over estimate.
Anyways if you're not even sure that Pakistan uses the AIM-120D then why are you bringing it into the discussion?
Yes we have a great knowledge of Indian pilots .
I know they train against the best and we tie down our pilots with their beds
Honestly the real flight hours of our " Each " pilot is classified but if even i would tell you what is an estimate , i am sure that would be enough for you to keep quite.
Your opinions won't keep me quiet
. 300 hours a years is around what US and Israeli pilots get, can Pakistan afford to blow that kind of money on fuel? For what it's worth a member by the name of X-man calculated PAF flight time to 220 hours a year, of course this is just an estimate, don't take it serious.
Opppssssssss!
Tail of a soviet SU-25 shot down by Sqn. Ldr. Athar on August 4, 1988.
Wow, you shot down a ground attack aircraft, congradulations!
PAF F-16 Pilot : Sqn. Ldr. Athar Bukhari who shot down Soviet SU-25.
Are you trying to prove the superiority of US aircraft? Because Pakistan Mig-21 pilots shot down Israeli pilots flying US and French aircraft. And Russian pilots humiliated American pilots in Korea.
I would not say the number But we are " thought" to be giving our Pilots more training hours than anyone else behind US.
And what about Nato pilots? What about Israeli pilot?
Our Pilots have flown , F-16's , most of the Sukhoi's , Mig-29's , SU-27's , F-15's , F-16E , and possibly by now EF-2000 too and soon will be Rafale eveluated.
Dont ask me where !
You want to provide a link please. Mig-29's did i read that correctly?
BTW we have been training with Americans ( the best air force in the world ) for over a period of 40+ years.
Yes, Pakistan has good pilots, and you did very well against the Indians. However, times change. Now Indians pilots are getting the flight time and training against the best.
JHMS&CS is a greater advantage for Block 52 which literally undermines the TVC of an MKI.
Regards:
I guess the MKI has HMS too if (i'm wrong correct me):
OLS-30 laser-optical locator system to include a day and night FLIR capability and is
used in conjunction with the helmet mounted sighting system
Sukhoi Su-30MKI - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
HMC would not undermine TVC, the MKI would still be in control, the F-16 pilot would have his hands full trying to shake the MKI off his ***, and if the F-16 and MKI get into a vertical scissors, for example, then the F-16 pilot might as well eject.