Pakistan's Artillery Upgrade Discussions

[Path-Finder]

Max range depends on ammunition used, and since all those modern 155mm howitzers have the main armament with same characteristics (155mm 52cal gun), when using the same ammunition the max range will be similar.

And don't be to excited about all those max ranges from the producers catalogs. It's not that hard to make artillery shell fly that far, but it's hard to actually hit something, especially with those rocket assisted shells. Unless you are using something like M982 Excalibur, you can only dream about hitting anything at those ranges. Thats why today in even the most advanced armies you probably won't find shells that are supposed to fly over 40km. And you probably won't have effective and precise fire over the range of 30 km, unless you are using some kind of expensive guided munition.

I wasn't knocking the NORA its a great Gun, as for guided ammo There is a unconfirmed rumour of a certain guided ammo in use, as a guess its either the Chinese Guided or Italian Precision shell in use!

 

[Zarvan]

Max range depends on ammunition used, and since all those modern 155mm howitzers have the main armament with same characteristics (155mm 52cal gun), when using the same ammunition the max range will be similar.

And don't be to excited about all those max ranges from the producers catalogs. It's not that hard to make artillery shell fly that far, but it's hard to actually hit something, especially with those rocket assisted shells. Unless you are using something like M982 Excalibur, you can only dream about hitting anything at those ranges. Thats why today in even the most advanced armies you probably won't find shells that are supposed to fly over 40km. And you probably won't have effective and precise fire over the range of 30 km, unless you are using some kind of expensive guided munition.

By the way is Serbia developing manpad launcher for Spider Missile also ? I mean Manpad similar to Javelin system

 

[Path-Finder]

By the way is Serbia developing manpad launcher for Spider Missile also ? I mean Manpad similar to Javelin system

Hazrat Javelin is not a manpad it is a ATGM!

 

[Zarvan]

Hazrat Javelin is not a manpad it is a ATGM!

It's entire system not just missile. Whole system is called Javelin

 

[Army research]

It's entire system not just missile. Whole system is called Javelin

And that system is an anti tank guided missile system and has very very limited capability to hit hovering aerial targets those targeted by other systems eg laser designaters

 

[Zarvan]

And that system is an anti tank guided missile system and has very very limited capability to hit hovering aerial targets those targeted by other systems eg laser designaters

Mr the Anti Tank system which a single soldier can is also called manpad

 

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Mr the Anti Tank system which a single soldier can is also called manpad

Hazrat @Zarvan what does MANPAD stand for?

It's entire system not just missile. Whole system is called Javelin

Hazrat @Zarvan I think you need a break from this forum!!!

 

[proka89]

By the way is Serbia developing manpad launcher for Spider Missile also ? I mean Manpad similar to Javelin system

Serbia is developing ALAS and SPIDER missiles. ALAS is ground to ground, or sea to ground missile, and SPIDER can be also fired from the helicopters. You should know that MANPAD is short from MAN Portable Air Defense system. ALAS and SPIDER are not air defence systems. And they are not meant to be carried by a single soldier, both those rockets are to big for something like that.

 

[Army research]

Mr the Anti Tank system which a single soldier can is also called manpad

Meray bhai, manpad Is man portable air system main qiun tumharay say jhuut bolon gaa!!

 

[Path-Finder]

Meray bhai, manpad Is man portable air system main qiun tumharay say jhuut bolon gaa!!

hehehe Hazrat @Zarvan is in stealth mode now, twice now he has cocked up once with the weight of ARX and now MANPAD. It's all your fault

 

[fatman17]

Turkish 105mm light howitzer

 

[Zarvan]

Turkish 105mm light howitzer

We need them because our 105 MM and 120 MM artillery are 70 years old so we need them now

 

[Army research]

Turkish 105mm light howitzer

We need them because our 105 MM and 120 MM artillery are 70 years old so we need them now

That as a light weight para forces howitzer,
Unless we need it in a mountain assault formation or heavy para brigade , we have no need of these

 

[Zarvan]

That as a light weight para forces howitzer,
Unless we need it in a mountain assault formation or heavy para brigade , we have no need of these

They can be great for LOC. And yes with few changes we can use them every where

 

[Army research]

They can be great for LOC. And yes with few changes we can use them every where

With few changes you get a different weapon , with different barrel size, ammo loader, ballistics which would make a better gun for stationary loc