Pakistan's Artillery Upgrade Discussions

[Zarvan]

No details , it just wasn't approved after trials

According to senior members here AH-4 has not been rejected. Pakistan has requested some changes to be made in them and when those changes are made Pakistan will again test those Guns.

 

[fatman17]

Land Platforms

NORINCO launches new tank destroyer

Christopher F Foss, London - IHS Jane's International Defence Review

09 January 2017

The ST2 tracked tank destroying vehicle is fitted with a three-person turret armed with a 105 mm rifled gun that can fire a wide range of ammunition. Source: NORINCO

China North Industries Corporation (NORINCO) has expanded its armoured vehicle portfolio with the development of the ST2 tracked 105 mm Tank Destroying Vehicle (TDV), which is understood to have been developed specifically for the export market rather than the People's Liberation Army (PLA).

The hull is similar to that used on the earlier generation NORINCO YW534 (Type 89) armoured personnel carrier (APC) - which has not been manufactured for some years - but with six road wheel stations either side rather than five.

While new platforms could be built, it is possible that the ST2 could use refurbished and upgraded vehicles.

The forward part of the hull sides slope inwards but at the rear they are more vertical to enable the turret, with its larger ring, to be installed. The driver is seated front left with the diesel powerpack to the right.

The ST2 TDV consists of a fully tracked platform fitted with a welded steel three-person turret mounted in the middle. The 105 mm rifled gun has a muzzle brake, fume extractor, and thermal sleeve, but does not currently appear to be fitted with a muzzle reference system (MRS), which would enable the weapon to be bore sighted without the crew leaving the vehicle.

A total of 32 rounds of 105 mm ammunition are carried with the mix depending on the role the ST2 TDV is expected to undertake.

As well as firing the standard natures of 105 mm ammunition including armour-piercing fin-stabilised discarding sabot - tracer (APFSDS-T), high-explosive anti-tank (HEAT), high explosive (HE), and a recently developed bunker busting round, it can also fire a gun-launched guided projectile (GLGP), which NORINCO is marketing as the GP2.

The GLGP has a maximum range of up to 5,000 m and is fitted with a tandem HEAT warhead that is claimed to penetrate 650 mm of rolled homogeneous armour (RHA) protected by explosive reactive armour (ERA).

 

[Army research]

According to senior members here AH-4 has not been rejected. Pakistan has requested some changes to be made in them and when those changes are made Pakistan will again test those Guns.

Would the corps of artillery not know better ?? Also if a gun with upgrades and changes does come it will be a **** variant not the original AH-4

 

[proka89]

Pakistan delegation led by maj general Farhan Akhtar (chief of artillery department) is visiting Serba, in organization by Yugoimport SDPR.

They were received yesterday by Serbian Defence minister Zoran Djordjevic.


Djordjevic and Akhtar agreed that the establishment of new partnerships, technology transfer for the purposes of defense industry of Pakistan and joint appearances on third markets represent the main opportunities for the development of military economic cooperation between the two countries. They also discussed the specific modalities of cooperation between the defense industries of Serbia and Pakistan.

 

[Friendly]

Yugos shouldnt underestimated. They are good. YUGO SLAVYA = South Russia

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Pakistan delegation led by maj general Farhan Akhtar (chief of artillery department) is visiting Serba, in organization by Yugoimport SDPR.

They were received yesterday by Serbian Defence minister Zoran Djordjevic.


Djordjevic and Akhtar agreed that the establishment of new partnerships, technology transfer for the purposes of defense industry of Pakistan and joint appearances on third markets represent the main opportunities for the development of military economic cooperation between the two countries. They also discussed the specific modalities of cooperation between the defense industries of Serbia and Pakistan.

@Path-Finder You want to have some fun?

Watch this: @Zarvan Zastava.

 

[Path-Finder]

@Path-Finder You want to have some fun?

Watch this: @Zarvan Zastava.

Yes

 

[Friendly]

Yes

Pakistan is interested in some special product

http://www.zastava-arms.rs/

 

[Path-Finder]

Pakistan is interested in some special product

http://www.zastava-arms.rs/

No to understand the running gag you have to go here!

https://defence.pk/threads/pakistans-service-rifle-g-3-type-56-replacement-competition-2016.426049/

you can skip the first 50 or so pages to get to the juicy bits

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Seriously though, with the DG Artillery visiting Serbia, I wonder if there's interest in more than just interest in the NORA B-52. Yugoimport-SDPR also has the LRSVM Morava MLRS and Spider ATGM.

 

[Zarvan]

@Path-Finder You want to have some fun?

Watch this: @Zarvan Zastava.

Zastava Rifle is not coming but I think this visit is for Artillery Gun Nora or may be the other products you mentioned

Seriously though, with the DG Artillery visiting Serbia, I wonder if there's interest in more than just interest in the NORA B-52. Yugoimport-SDPR also has the LRSVM Morava MLRS and Spider ATGM.

 

[Path-Finder]

In My opinion Denel with its great Range out shoots almost anything its rivals have! Denel G6 is what PA should aspire to, But NORA is a very good gun as well to its credit! Another little side note South Africa has good abundance of Titanium so maybe Denel could come up with a light gun like M777!!

Seriously though, with the DG Artillery visiting Serbia, I wonder if there's interest in more than just interest in the NORA B-52. Yugoimport-SDPR also has the LRSVM Morava MLRS and Spider ATGM.

Zastava Rifle is not coming but I think this visit is for Artillery Gun Nora or may be the other products you mentioned

Hazrat @Zarvan relax it was a joke.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

In My opinion Denel with its great Range out shoots almost anything its rivals have! Denel G6 is what PA should aspire to, But NORA is a very good gun as well to its credit! Another little side though South Africa has good abundance of Titanium so maybe Denel could come up with a light gun like M777!!




Hazrat @Zarvan relax it was a joke.

Denel is developing the G7 Light Experimental Ordnance (LEO), a 3,800 kg towed howitzer. It's 105 mm, but it has the terminal velocity of 155 mm. With a funding partner, Denel is aiming to pull the weight to less than 3,000 kg. I don't think a 155 mm gun is impossible for them, but they don't have one yet.

 

[proka89]

In My opinion Denel with its great Range out shoots almost anything its rivals have! Denel G6 is what PA should aspire to, But NORA is a very good gun as well to its credit! Another little side though South Africa has good abundance of Titanium so maybe Denel could come up with a light gun like M777!!

Max range depends on ammunition used, and since all those modern 155mm howitzers have the main armament with same characteristics (155mm 52cal gun), when using the same ammunition the max range will be similar.

And don't be to excited about all those max ranges from the producers catalogs. It's not that hard to make artillery shell fly that far, but it's hard to actually hit something, especially with those rocket assisted shells. Unless you are using something like M982 Excalibur, you can only dream about hitting anything at those ranges. Thats why today in even the most advanced armies you probably won't find shells that are supposed to fly over 40km. And you probably won't have effective and precise fire over the range of 30 km, unless you are using some kind of expensive guided munition.

 

[Sher_Ali]

Ammo production? [emoji38] Dude we make and export ammo... 155mm Base bleed,cluster packin ammo etc.

Do we produce ex-caliber grade artillery munitions too?