Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

[Novice09]

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[TOPGUN]

We should be happy with wat we are gona get ! we should never compare our selves with others! waiting for these birds to come home..

 

[mughaljee]

Pls share some new pictures of Chines AWACs, which we probably will get in future.

 

[Rank]

Good News!!

China's AWACS KJ 2000 Thread here

Pakistan Buys Chinese AWACS
Link

December 24, 2008: Pakistan is buying a Chinese made AWACS (Air Warning And Control System) aircraft, for $278 million. China has been developing its own AWACS for eight years, ever since the U.S. forced Israel to back off selling China the Phalcon AWACS (which used some American technology). China then bought some AWACS from Russia, while hustling to develop their own.

The Chinese Air Force was not happy with its four IL-76 AWACS (A-50s from Russia, converted to use Chinese KJ2000 radar systems) and smaller systems carried in the Chinese made Y8 aircraft. Meanwhile, the Chinese have been outfitting a Boeing 737-800 airliner as an AWACS aircraft. There may be as many as three of the 737 AWACS. These work much better.

The KJ2000 entered service last year. China has had to develop its own phased array radar for it. The Y8 based KJ2000 carries a flight crew of five and a mission (AWACS) crew of about a dozen. The aircraft can stay airborne for about seven hours per sortie. The KJ2000 radar has a range of about 300 kilometers, and the computer systems are supposed to be able to handle 5-10 fighters at a time, and keep track of several dozen enemy targets.

The 54 ton propeller driven Y8 (which is based on the Russian An-12) and 157 ton Il-76 jet are apparently considered less reliable, and more expensive to maintain, than the twin engine, 79 ton, Boeing 737-800. Chinese airlines (some of them controlled by the Chinese Air Force) have been using the 737-800 since 1999 (a year after this model entered service).

MAN IF THATS TRUE WOW I LOVE THIS AWACSSS

ANYONE CONFIRM THIS NEWS ?? any one have Airforce Authentic Source about PAF go for KJ2000 ????

 

[ejaz007]

MAN IF THATS TRUE WOW I LOVE THIS AWACSSS

ANYONE CONFIRM THIS NEWS ?? any one have Airforce Authentic Source about PAF go for KJ2000 ????

The chances are that PAF shall be buying KJ-200 and not KJ-2000. The price also suggests that.

 

[Waqas Dar]

Great news indeed,

i am very happy to know that pakistan is progressing in this field too, the acquisition of both Saab 2000 and Chinese AWACS will pave the way for network centric warfare of PAF, i wish all the best to PAF

 

[Rank]

Dont like KJ200 shape look so to me

 

[SBD-3]

Yap even PAF ex-chief was not happy with it. But now we have to stick with it as it is similar to SAAB 2000 so no new heavy investment required.

 

[sancho]

The chances are that PAF shall be buying KJ-200 and not KJ-2000. The price also suggests that.

It would also depends on Russia, because the plattform of KJ-2000 is still a Russian IL A50/76. Anyway the radar system that the KJ-2000 use, will be available for PAF through KJ-200 with the Y8 plattform.

 

[PakShaheen79]

Air Chief Marshal Rao Suleman is on official visit to China these days. I think there will be extensive talks on PAF's AWACS and FC-20s.

 

[SBD-3]

KJ-200 is younger as compared to KJ-2000. it should be relatively advanced as it would benefit from both KJ-2000 and new developments in tech

 

[mughaljee]

Brother,
As u said,
"KJ-200 is younger as compared to KJ-2000 & relatively advanced"
are we buying this now with TOT ?

 

[truepakistani17]

Good News!!

China's AWACS KJ 2000 Thread here

Pakistan Buys Chinese AWACS
Link

December 24, 2008: Pakistan is buying a Chinese made AWACS (Air Warning And Control System) aircraft, for $278 million. China has been developing its own AWACS for eight years, ever since the U.S. forced Israel to back off selling China the Phalcon AWACS (which used some American technology). China then bought some AWACS from Russia, while hustling to develop their own.

The Chinese Air Force was not happy with its four IL-76 AWACS (A-50s from Russia, converted to use Chinese KJ2000 radar systems) and smaller systems carried in the Chinese made Y8 aircraft. Meanwhile, the Chinese have been outfitting a Boeing 737-800 airliner as an AWACS aircraft. There may be as many as three of the 737 AWACS. These work much better.

The KJ2000 entered service last year. China has had to develop its own phased array radar for it. The Y8 based KJ2000 carries a flight crew of five and a mission (AWACS) crew of about a dozen. The aircraft can stay airborne for about seven hours per sortie. The KJ2000 radar has a range of about 300 kilometers, and the computer systems are supposed to be able to handle 5-10 fighters at a time, and keep track of several dozen enemy targets.

The 54 ton propeller driven Y8 (which is based on the Russian An-12) and 157 ton Il-76 jet are apparently considered less reliable, and more expensive to maintain, than the twin engine, 79 ton, Boeing 737-800. Chinese airlines (some of them controlled by the Chinese Air Force) have been using the 737-800 since 1999 (a year after this model entered service).

these are not the ones PAF is going for. we wwill be getting KJ200 and not KJ2000 from china

 

[truepakistani17]

Brother,
As u said,
"KJ-200 is younger as compared to KJ-2000 & relatively advanced"
are we buying this now with TOT ?

sir PAF is reported to have contributed in the development of this system. infact this was one f the reason that PAF decided to go for the chines system as it will get some technical knowledge from this system.

 

[hj786]

sir PAF is reported to have contributed in the development of this system. infact this was one f the reason that PAF decided to go for the chines system as it will get some technical knowledge from this system.

Yup.


Pakistan Surmounts Sanctions To Revive Airpower - Defense News
By Usman Ansari
Published: 9 February 2009

Malik said this was linked to its considerable export potential, "as the JF-17 is the only medium-tech aircraft in this price bracket, so there is a queue of vendors wanting to supply systems for the aircraft."

December also saw Pakistan sign a $278 million deal for four Chinese KJ-2000/ZDK03 AEW&C aircraft, whose active electronically steered array radar is mounted on a turboprop-powered Y-8F600. It is somewhat similar to the Saab-2000-mounted Ericsson FRS-890 Erieye system on order from Sweden.

The ZDK-03 purchase, as with the joint JF-17 program, has an element of technology transfer, said defense analyst Usman Shabbir of the Pakistan Military Consortium.

"The Pakistan Air Force sees this procurement of ZDK03 AEW&C as a long-term investment, enabling it to tap into the emerging Chinese capabilities in this field," Shabbir said. "A team of PAF engineers is already working with the Chinese into refining the performance of this system, and China is also helping to set up labs for advance avionics R&D within Pakistan."