Pakistanis are obsessed with Islam, Kashmir & Hindus -- Sheikh Mujib's speech

[PakSarzameen5823]

Ethnic and tribal divisions exist, and that's something you can never deny.

To some extent, yes. But it's nothing major.

But please keep denying the Shia-Sunni violence.

I will because you made the claim of there being a weekly shedding of Shia blood. That's a blatant lie.

 

[Awan68]

The words of a traitor carry little wieght, even in the halls of those for whom he committed treason.

 

[Bengal71]

A man with tuberculosis basically on death bed fighting against the strongest power on earth at the time on one side and majority Hindu on the other where as mujib was in alliance with the biggest player in the game(India)..don’t think there is even a comparison about whose achievement was greater

That man did not have to operate under brutal military juntas who would jail and kill any opposition. Mujib operated uder the likes of the dog Ayub and Yahya, went to jail, still politically outmaneuvered them while a genocide was being conducted, and in the end came out victorious.

If Jinnah were to live long and had to do political maneuvers against Mujib in a level playing field, Mujib would beat in the chess board like a grandmaster would an amateur.

 

[PakSarzameen5823]

You gotta be delusional to think those millions who died are all going to hell.

Not all of them, but I'm willing to make the assertion that a quite a few of them are.

 

[Bengal71]

^^^

This is what happens when you ingest too much mercury boys. I think someone needs to lay off the fish.



It says a lot if his own people stitched him up.

Whether it's his own people or foreign powers, it happened after 71. His achievements are in 1971, Jinnah's achievements are in 47. I am comparing those.

 

[TMA]

That man did not have to operate under brutal military juntas who would jail and kill any opposition. Mujib operated uder the likes of the dog Ayub and Yahya, went to jail, still politically outmaneuvered them while a genocide was being conducted, and in the end came out victorious.

If Jinnah were to live long and had to do political maneuvers against Mujib in a level playing field, Mujib would beat in the chess board like a grandmaster would an amateur.

Hmmm...”genocide”...trying to sell this narrative...please sell it to your people....we do not buy this.....

 

[Fortress]

Shaytan will give them a really good commemoration when he roasts them for eternity.

Damn. You gotta be delusional to think those millions of Bengalis who died deserve to go to hell.

I wouldn't even in my wildest dreams claim that Pakistanis killed by bombs and tribalism are all going to hell.

I don't know what version of Islam you follow, where you go to hell for eternity, but in orthodox Sunnism I believe that all Muslims go to heaven after doing their time for sins. Eternal hell for sinning Muslims is a Kharijite belief.

To some extent, yes. But it's nothing major.



I will because you made the claim of there being a weekly shedding of Shia blood. That's a blatant lie.

I said "every other week". Might want to look up what that means.
It doesn't mean "every week", more so that it happens once or twice a month and that's not far from truth.

 

[PakSarzameen5823]

That man did not have to operate under brutal military juntas who would jail and kill any opposition.

Have you already forgotten about the Bengal famine?

If Jinnah were to live long and had to do political maneuvers against Mujib in a level playing field, Mujib would beat in the chess board like a grandmaster would an amateur.

Lmao you know what, if it makes you feel better I'll let you have this one. Happy? You Bengalis finally get to have one hero from your history.

 

[zain41]

That man did not have to operate under brutal military juntas who would jail and kill any opposition. Mujib operated uder the likes of the dog Ayub and Yahya, went to jail, still politically outmaneuvered them while a genocide was being conducted, and in the end came out victorious.

If Jinnah were to live long and had to do political maneuvers against Mujib in a level playing field, Mujib would beat in the chess board like a grandmaster would an amateur.

Ironic of you to say that.. he was jailed by “dogs” yet killed by his own people at the end so what does that make them

Sheikh Hasina also doing the same as the “dogs” were doing

 

[Bengal71]

Shaytan will give them a really good commemoration when he roasts them for eternity.



The body count still isn't anywhere near the one inflicted upon you in 1971, or the over 20 years of humiliation you received when we ruled over you.



You are, it's just that we're better at fighting than you, hence why even though you started 1971 by targeting Urdu speakers, we finished it by hammering down on you like an asteroid.



I don't think you read my post properly. Check again, more specifically the last line.

Then you dropped your pants and surrendered in humiliation in front of our half fed, bare foot farmers and teen age students. You still burn every year on 16th December.

 

[PakSarzameen5823]

but in orthodox Sunnism I believe that all Muslims go to heaven after doing their time for sins.

Keyword being Muslims.

"every other week"

Still a lie.

 

[Bengal71]

Have you already forgotten about the Bengal famine?



Lmao you know what, if it makes you feel better I'll let you have this one. Happy? You Bengalis finally get to have one hero from your history.

Bengal famine? What has that got to do with partition politics oh madrassa goer fool?

You have no hero in your entire history, you name your missiles as Abdali, ghaznavi and ghori. Borrowing heros from other nations.

 

[PakSarzameen5823]

Then you dropped your pants and surrendered in humiliation in front of our half fed, bare foot farmers and teen age students.

No, we stopped fighting because we were outnumbered 15:1 and knew that fighting at this point was just plain stupid, especially when you wouldn't have the stomach to even touch us. Even when having Kalashnikovs pointed at our heads, you knew who your masters were.

 

[zain41]

Damn. You gotta be delusional to think those millions of Bengalis who died deserve to go to hell.

I wouldn't even in my wildest dreams claim that Pakistanis killed by bombs and sectarianism are all going to hell.

I don't know what version of Islam you follow, where you go to hell for eternity, but in orthodox Sunnism we believe that all Muslims go to heaven after doing their time for sins. Eternal hell for sinning Muslims is a Kharijite belief.





I said "every other week". Might want to look up what that means.
It doesn't mean "every week", more so that it happens once or twice a month and that's not far from truth.

There’s barely any incidents of sectarian violence between sunnis and Shias now even on ashura.. so don’t know what you’re on about there..

 

[Fortress]

Keyword being Muslims.



Still a lie.

And this is exactly my point. Your sectarian mentality makes you claim that even those millions who died are 'not Muslims.'

Millions died and they're all non-Muslims....according to you. Why? Not because of their religious sect but because they happen to be on the other side of an ethnic and political conflict. Majority of whom were just plain civilians.