Pakistanis are obsessed with Islam, Kashmir & Hindus -- Sheikh Mujib's speech

[Sheikh Rauf]

Mujib himself is ok with the name Bangladesh, what nonsense are you talking about?

I am comparing the achievements of two politicians and in that regard Mujib's achievement is far higher that Jinnah's given the difficulty of the situation.

if his achievement was higher then change the name which haseena wants Bando bando desh. this is hell of reality Bangladesh is tooth less this achievments mujib gave you when he knew bangla is surrounded by india and if they push you will fall in sea. Thats why he calls indians as brother cuz you guys have to rely on that for ever it was Quaid e Azam who got you out of India union from british. it was mistake involving bangalies in first place and we are so happy that bango bandos are not with us.

 

[Fortress]

Islam would have finished if it wasn’t for the sacrifice of imam Hussein yazid was in full control martyred most of the sahabas and was distorting Islam completely..it was his sacrifice that led to people waking up and rejuvenating Islam..I am not even Shia but no one can really downplay the ultimate sacrifice of a handful against thousands..inevitable martyrdom

All respect to your own right to your beliefs but this is not a statement I adhere to because it makes no sense.

Yazid was not in control of happenings in Khorasan and Maghreb. His oppression and those that were martyred in the Midle-East as a result had no effect in those faraway lands. Islam operated unaffected.

Also there WERE distortions that arose after that incident, so to say he stopped it is short-sighted and disconnected. Many in Northwest Africa adopted Khariji ideology, and you had a myriad of Shia ideologies that developed, many of whom were clearly ghulat. And the different Muslims were at war with each other.

The Umayyads literally continued on with what they were already doing which is WHY Imam Zayd had to go to war, and like his own grandfather Hussein, was martyred. Imam Hanifa was also reportedly tortured. And even after the Umayyads fell to Abbassids, distortions continued and Imam Hanbal was tortured, and slaves were tortured causing them to revolt.

 

[zain41]

You are right indeed!

The point I was trying to make is that if all the ummah was to be indifferent to towards Islam, then it would vanish from the face earth fairly quickly. But it is the "obsession" of the few that has kept it alive since the inception till date. Those few were always deemed "lunatics" at first but were ultimately recognized as the "champions".

It is always the few that end up doing the heavy lifting.. humans are fickle creatures in nature

“ stay away from racism it’s stench is like that of a stinking carcass” this Hadith comes to mind

The downfall came when we adopted our nationalities first and religion second.. the proof is in the pudding we became total garbage after the British drew up international borders polarizing us against eachother.. unfortunately seems like it will only get worse before it gets better

 

[Bengal71]

if his achievement was higher then change the name which haseena wants Bando bando desh. this is hell of reality Bangladesh is tooth less this achievments mujib gave you when he knew bangla is surrounded by india and if they push you will fall in sea. Thats why he calls indians as brother cuz you guys have to rely on that for ever it was Quaid e Azam who got you out of India union from british. it was mistake involving bangalies in first place and we are so happy that bango bandos are not with us.

Hasina doesn't want Bangabandhu desh, you are illiterate fool.

Jinnah did not get us out of Indian union, we contributed immensely for the creation of Pakistan.

 

[zain41]

All respect to your own right to your beliefs but this is not a statement I adhere to because it makes no sense.

Yazid was not control of what was happening in Khorasan and Maghreb. His oppression and those that were martyred as a result had no effect in those faraway lands. Islam operated unaffected.

Also there WERE distortions that arose after that incident, so to say he stopped it is short-sighted and disconnected. Many in Northwest Africa adopted Khariji ideology, and you had a myriad of Shia ideologies that developed, many of whom were clearly ghulat. And the different Muslims were at war with each other.

The Umayyads literally continued on with what they were already doing which is WHY Imam Zayd had to go to war, and like his own ancestor Hussein, was martyred. Imam Hanifa was also reportedly tortured. And even after the Umayyads fell to Abbassids, distortions continued and Imam Hanbal was tortured, and slaves were tortured causing them to revolt.

With all due respect I don’t think you are fully aware of the situation and I can say that as a Sunni we are not exactly taught what happened because it is almost taboo as ahle bait “are only to be revered by Shias”..

When it comes to yazid he martyred about 12000 people in madinah and ordered the city to be plundered and looted do you think that had no effect on Islam? He was from the progeny of hind and abu sufyan and once he had martyred Hussein AS he boasted he had finally avenged the death of his ancestors at badr..if he were to not be confronted his goal seemed to have been to destroy Islam from within which I believe might have been possible without the sacrifice of Hussein AS ..sure there were distortions of Islam after but there might have been no Islam tomdistort withoit the events at Karbala

 

[PakSarzameen5823]

Newbs like you are too stupid to even reply to.

If what I say upsets you then you should go back to your own little echo chamber. This is a forum where matters such as this are discussed. Don't like it? Leave, nobody here really seems to like veggie bindi men anyway so I'm sure you'll be doing us a favour.

Read some history and then come here.

It seems I know more about it than you since you're whining so much about it.

Jinnah is nowhere near the achievement of Mujib in terms of the scale of achievement.

I think you've been spending too much time making jeans in the sweatshop, you need some fresh air.

Her personality is amazing, when she talks it's almost hypnotizing. Iron lady indeed.

It seems like after 1971, rather than getting independence, you simply acquired a new master.

 

[Bengal71]

If what I say upsets you then you should go back to your own little echo chamber. This is a forum where matters such as this are discussed. Don't like it? Leave, nobody here really seems to like veggie bindi men anyway so I'm sure you'll be doing us a favour.



It seems I know more about it than you since you're whining so much about it.





I think you've been spending too much time making jeans in the sweatshop, you need some fresh air.



It seems like after 1971, rather than getting independence, you simply acquired a new master.

No i am not. Jinnah is nothing compared to Mujib as a politician. Mujib's achievements given the difficulty of the situation far far far surpasses that of Jinnah's. It's hard for you guys to swallow, I know since you guys thrive on false pride and ego

 

[PakSarzameen5823]

Last time your grandpa returned back in a bodybag and your general had a "LOSER" sign on his back. (You hit low, so I hit low).

After killing a few million of you. The sad part is even when they surrendered, you still lacked the stomach to take action. They got away with everything and died living in far better conditions than most Bengalis can even dream of. The casualties we suffered aren't even 5% of what we inflicted upon you.

You hit low, I'll hit even lower.

No i am not. Jinnah is nothing compared to Mujib as a politician. Mujib's achievements given the difficulty of the situation far far far surpasses that of Jinnah's. It's hard for you guys to swallow, I know since you guys thrive on false pride and ego

We'll see how far his achievements get him in Jahannam.

 

[zain41]

No i am not. Jinnah is nothing compared to Mujib as a politician. Mujib's achievements given the difficulty of the situation far far far surpasses that of Jinnah's. It's hard for you guys to swallow, I know since you guys thrive on false pride and ego

A man with tuberculosis basically on death bed fighting against the strongest power on earth at the time on one side and majority Hindu on the other where as mujib was in alliance with the biggest player in the game(India)..don’t think there is even a comparison about whose achievement was greater

 

[Fortress]

After killing a few million of you. The sad part is even when they surrendered, you still lacked the stomach to take action. They got away with everything and died living in far better conditions than most Bengalis can even dream of. The casualties we suffered aren't even 5% of what we inflicted upon you.

You hit low, I'll hit even lower.

And we commemorate those martyrs from 40-50 years ago.

Meanwhile you're holding Janazahs every single day because those sectarian bombs won't stop going off. BD has been in relative peace.

And thanks for letting the world know that Bengalis aren't the mindless violent kind. It's true, we never target people who surrender. We strike back when struck. Have fun bragging about a genocide.

 

[PakSarzameen5823]

there is attacks on Shia every other week. Sectarianism is a fact of life in Pakistan.

^^^

This is what happens when you ingest too much mercury boys. I think someone needs to lay off the fish.

That has nothing to do with his achievements.

It says a lot if his own people stitched him up.

 

[Fortress]

^^^

This is what happens when you ingest too much mercury boys. I think someone needs to lay off the fish.



It says a lot if his own people stitched him up.

Ethnic and tribal divisions exist, and that's something you can never deny. But please keep denying the Shia-Sunni violence.

 

[PakSarzameen5823]

And we commemorate those martyrs from 40-50 years ago.

Shaytan will give them a really good commemoration when he roasts them for eternity.

Meanwhile you're holding Janazahs every single day because those sectarian bombs won't stop going off.

The body count still isn't anywhere near the one inflicted upon you in 1971, or the over 20 years of humiliation you received when we ruled over you.

Bengalis aren't the mindless violent kind

You are, it's just that we're better at fighting than you, hence why even though you started 1971 by targeting Urdu speakers, we finished it by hammering down on you like an asteroid.

Have fun bragging about a genocide.

I don't think you read my post properly. Check again, more specifically the last line.

 

[Bengal71]

After killing a few million of you. The sad part is even when they surrendered, you still lacked the stomach to take action. They got away with everything and died living in far better conditions than most Bengalis can even dream of. The casualties we suffered aren't even 5% of what we inflicted upon you.

You hit low, I'll hit even lower.





We'll see how far his achievements get him in Jahannam.

We too shall see how is who on the day of judgement and who get dragged to jahannam face down. Don't get ahead of yourself as yet, that day is yet to come and a fair and upright judge will be presiding over that day.

 

[Fortress]

Shaytan will give them a really good commemoration when he roasts them for eternity.



The body count still isn't anywhere near the one inflicted upon you in 1971, or the over 20 years of humiliation you received when we ruled over you.



You are, it's just that we're better at fighting than you, hence why even though you started 1971 by targeting Urdu speakers, we finished it by hammering down on you like an asteroid.



I don't think you read my post properly. Check again, more specifically the last line.

Damn. You gotta be delusional to think those millions of Bengalis who died deserve to go to hell.


I wouldn't even in my wildest dreams claim that Pakistanis killed by bombs and sectarianism are all going to hell.