Pakistani Sikh girl tops matric exams.

[WAJsal]

good analysis, wajsal.

Yar post ko thank to kar detay agar good analysis tha to

south asians really need a radical transformation of their education system and their political/social/economic system.

Agreed.

 

[jamahir]

@WAJsal

sorry.

done.

 

[Sky lord]

so what if someone scored high marks in some school/college exam?? what is that supposed to indicate??

That they have brains !!! Duh

 

[jamahir]

That they have brains !!! Duh

much like this ( no invention from India in 60 years: n. r. narayana murthy )??

 

[Sky lord]

much like this ( no invention from India in 60 years: n. r. narayana murthy )??

Hehehe ....So you are saying that the only way to invent something is to drop out of college?

You just made a fool out of every Nobel Prize winner in the last 25 years, all of whom in the field of science/medicine had college degrees.

Much as you don't like it Jamahir, education is a very good thing. What this young lady did is something to be admired not dissed or made fun.

Just because you failed your college exams does not mean that you are going to be successful in creating your cockless microprocessor or whatever it is you are working on. The two are not related. Invention and ingenuity does not depend on being bad at exams.

To put it another way - All people who come first in a national exam have brains but not all people who have brains top exams. One is a subset if the other.

Some people who fail exams are inventive but most are just stupid.

 

[jamahir]

Hehehe ....So you are saying that the only way to invent something is to drop out of college?

You just made a fool out of every Nobel Prize winner in the last 25 years, all of whom in the field of science/medicine had college degrees.

Much as you don't like it Jamahir, education is a very good thing. What this young lady did is something to be admired not dissed or made fun.

Just because you failed your college exams does not mean that you are going to be successful in creating your cockless microprocessor or whatever it is you are working on. The two are not related. Invention and ingenuity does not depend on being bad at exams.

To put it another way - All people who come first in a national exam have brains but not all people who have brains top exams. One is a subset if the other.

Some people who fail exams are inventive but most are just stupid.

looks like you want to justify your having been in college against narayanmurthy's assertion.

 

[Sky lord]

looks like you want to justify your having been in college against narayanmurthy's assertion.

And it looks to me like you are a little embarrassed about failing college, so constantly trying to pull down people who are good at book learning.

Again, failing exams is not a necessary pre-requisite for being successful in life.

Believe me many, many,many people have college degrees and been successful too. You don't need to drop out to invent.

 

[jamahir]

And it looks to me like you are a little embarrassed about failing college, so constantly trying to pull down people who are good at book learning.

you seem to have a one-track mind... you are insistent that i dropped out of college because i failed ( in maths )... you don't seem to understand that it was my voluntary choice because i was bored... in the years after that, i could have taken up evening college or correspondence courses, but i didn't... i simply didn't... because i was not interested.

it takes courage to be a drop out in india... are you ready now to burn your college degree(s)??

didn't you say you are married??

Again, failing exams is not a necessary pre-requisite for being successful in life.

Believe me many, many,many people have college degrees and been successful too. You don't need to drop out to invent.

ideally, the school/college are meant to give a environment to enhance one's interests and to give facilities to develop prototype of some machine or make discovery... but it does not mostly happen.

 

[Sky lord]

it takes courage to be a drop out in india...

No it takes rich doting parents.

Lack of which is a very keen focuser of the mind and an antidote to any boredom.

 

[Force-India]

And it looks to me like you are a little embarrassed about failing college, so constantly trying to pull down people who are good at book learning.

Again, failing exams is not a necessary pre-requisite for being successful in life.

Believe me many, many,many people have college degrees and been successful too. You don't need to drop out to invent.

you seem to have a one-track mind... you are insistent that i dropped out of college because i failed ( in maths )... you don't seem to understand that it was my voluntary choice because i was bored... in the years after that, i could have taken up evening college or correspondence courses, but i didn't... i simply didn't... because i was not interested.

it takes courage to be a drop out in india... are you ready now to burn your college degree(s)??

didn't you say you are married??



ideally, the school/college are meant to give a environment to enhance one's interests and to give facilities to develop prototype of some machine or make discovery... but it does not mostly happen.

Anyone ,college dropout or a degree holder can be an innovator. No degree or exam is ever made to 'measure' someone's intelligence. Definitely not in the Indian subcontinent. Here anyone without common sense can also top an examination, just by spending hours on cramming books. But it also does not mean a topper is always a crammer. Moreover, every human is different and becomes mature at different ages, not considering the effects of environment he/she lives in or lived in, which in my opinion effects someone a lot. In my experience every person has some abilities which are better than others.

 

[jamahir]

No it takes rich doting parents.

and what of those talented drop outs who don't have either??

Lack of which is a very keen focuser of the mind and an antidote to any boredom.

perhaps what focuses the mind towards colleging is awareness that without that college degree or degrees, one does not have the ability to stand in society.

But it also does not mean a topper is always a crammer.

true... for example, someone in the medical field or in arts.

Moreover, every human is different and becomes mature at different ages, not considering the effects of environment he/she lives in or lived in, which in my opinion effects someone a lot.

true.

 

[Sky lord]

Anyone ,college dropout or a degree holder can be an innovator. No degree or exam is ever made to 'measure' someone's intelligence. Definitely not in the Indian subcontinent. Here anyone without common sense can also top an examination, just by spending hours on cramming books. But it also does not mean a topper is always a crammer. Moreover, every human is different and becomes mature at different ages, not considering the effects of environment he/she lives in or lived in, which in my opinion effects someone a lot. In my experience every person has some abilities which are better than others.

By and large you are correct, you do not need a college degree to be an innovator but a college degree does not harm either (which is Jamahirs point of view - that college degrees are bad)

I do not agree that you do not need intelligence to be a topper in national exams. You do. Have you seen some of the science and math questions, you do need some ability to think and retain information or at least apply what you have learnt to problem sets. You maybe able to pass exams on common sense alone but to be a topper you need brains too.

What I object to is the comment "so what" By Jamahir - post # 46 This belittles the girls hard work, dedication and talents.

 

[Ehsan]

Sikhs FTW !