Pakistan will soon get J10

[sancho]

Sir whole world knows it Pakistan wanted another plane china had developed J-10 A but Pakistan was not happy with that model So they asked for a better one So China went for J-10 B and China very long time ago started offering J-10 to us and we also agreed long time ago the only question is when to get them

First of all Pakistan is not in the position to put any pressure on China, secondly, the B is a normal an upgrade version of the A and not a complete new development, so the upgrade was in Chinas interest anyway. PAF might not have been too impressed by J10A, which is logical, since it doesn't add too much for the money compared to JF 17 Block 1, but the upgrade of J10B has nothing to do with PAF, but with Chinas / PLAAFs own interests to modernise the fighter, just like upgrading JF17 to block 2 is in PAFs interest too.

 

[regular]

This news is typically chinese style. China will never pubilically announce this type news in advance, and instaed, will show some hint to pubilic in some way (this time a photo). This means the (J10 enter Pakistan ) is offically approved.

I hope this would be J10B........the newer advanced version that is almost comparable to Eurofighter......

 

[tarrar]

INSHAALLAH soon we will be seeing these beautiful fighter in PAF colors, can't wait to see them.

 

[blackspider]

rafale hasbeen in action against no airforce from libya and afghanistan so how it proves that rafale is potent fighter???

 

[Safriz]

China's aviation news (reporter Xing) May 29, the chairman of the aircraft industry Lin Zuo Ming, met in Beijing with the new Chief of Staff of the Pakistan Air Force Tahir . During the talks, the two sides talked on the implementation and follow-up of key cooperation projects focus on cooperation in the direction of a frank and friendly discussion.

Tahir thank the aircraft industry on the strong support of the Pakistan Air Force, and made ​​valuable suggestions from the user point of view on the subsequent development of the project.

LinZuoMing Group units as soon as possible to come up with practical solutions to resolve the concern of the Pakistan Air Force. Lin Zuo Ming also said that the aircraft industry not only to the Pakistan Air Force to provide quality equipment, but also to help the Pakistani Air Force to establish their own national defense capacity, Tahir, Chief of Staff term of office, China and Pakistan to carry out more cooperation.

Finally, the mutual commitment will spare no effort to promote the project to achieve greater success, to enhance the partnership.

International Affairs in the aircraft industry, AVIC aviation equipment, CATIC leadership attended the meeting.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakist...kistan-will-soon-get-j10-2.html#ixzz1wXPuK7AH



THAT MEANS THE PROJECT ISNT FINISHED YET AND CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE

 

[sancho]

rafale hasbeen in action against no airforce from libya and afghanistan so how it proves that rafale is potent fighter???

Is it their fault that Libyan airforce decided not to go against it, while the Rafales were in recon or strike roles, even before the allied forces joint? The F22 never was used in A2A or A2G in a war and still everybody considers it to be the most advanced fighter right? So that's hardly an argument!

 

[Abingdonboy]

The J10B may be a good a/c but it in no way is comparable to EFT or Rafale. It just isn't possible at this stage for the Chinese industries to have the same sort of design and production capabitles as established companies especially one like Dassualt that is making the most advanced tech in thei world. The J10 may be able to compete in some flight aspects like sustained turn and the like but in avionics (where modern combat is one and lost these days) there is just no comparison between the J-10 and the Euro-canards apart from some cosmetic similarities which have, no doubt, been ripped off.

+ certainly not the versions that competed in MMRCA ie the EFT T3 and Rafale F3 with AESA, super cruise, HMDS etc

 

[SamranAli]

LOL at Indian fan boys who convert every thread in India VS Pakistan......

 

[Edevelop]

The J10B may be a good a/c but it in no way is comparable to EFT or Rafale. It just isn't possible at this stage for the Chinese industries to have the same sort of design and production capabitles as established companies especially one like Dassualt that is making the most advanced tech in thei world. The J10 may be able to compete in some flight aspects like sustained turn and the like but in avionics (where modern combat is one and lost these days) there is just no comparison between the J-10 and the Euro-canards apart from some cosmetic similarities which have, no doubt, been ripped off.

What is it in Eurofighter and in Rafale technically that isn't in J-10B?

All have AESA Radar, ECM suite, BVR Capable, same types of Armament on Board , Air Refuelling Probe, IRST, Pods, TVC Control. Canards, almost equal speeds, same # of hard points, same range etc...

If you are talking about avionics that makes the difference, then sorry to disappoint you, JF-17 beats all.

 

[Skorpian]

Good luck to my Pakistani brothers. This should be helpful to the Pakistani air force if the deal goes well.

 

[Su-11]

JF-17 is clearly superior to this J-10. Pakistan is too smart to fall for this trap set by the Chinese. When JF-17 is superior to F-16 as per some Pakistani pilots claims, and if J-10 is equal to F-16 as per Chinese claims, it logically means JF-17 is superior to J-10.

 

[SBD-3]

Exactly..........any country with superior technology would not want to sell their best..........The americans sold F 16, but their superiority , heavy class fighter was F 15 and it's sales only came after F-22...........Even now they are doing the same.......Selling F 35 and keeping F 22 exclusive...........It's sales will only be allowed when the 6th gen fighter comes out...

The chinese are going to do the same , if the consider J 10 their best......

Was F-22 there flying in 1977 when F-15 was exported to Israel? Banda kuch soch kay chawal marta hay

 

[Arsalan]

JF-17 is clearly superior to this J-10. Pakistan is too smart to fall for this trap set by the Chinese. When JF-17 is superior to F-16 as per some Pakistani pilots claims, and if J-10 is equal to F-16 as per Chinese claims, it logically means JF-17 is superior to J-10.

if you ever bother to listen or read a bit more carefully you will notice that that SOME Pakistani pilots compared this with what F-16 model they practiced against, the blk-15. JFT BLK-1 is as good as the F-16 Blk30 or F-16 MLU.
it can compete with F-16 BLK52 as well for all since both are BVR capable.

remember we have only Blk-1 in PAF as of yet and as time passes, and the machine get matured, everyone can see its potential!

regards!

 

[Su-11]

If Pakistani pilots practiced against Block 15, then it means the Chinese pilots too practiced against that don't you think? Where else can they get hold of an F-16.

 

[Arsalan]

If Pakistani pilots practiced against Block 15, then it means the Chinese pilots too practiced against that don't you think? Where else can they get hold of an F-16.

oh pleaseeee
JFT is no match for MKI as per Indians, have they ever faced each other from which this conclusion is drawn??

dear, these are all professional organizations. if we sitting in our homes and offices can get this much info regarding these planes imagine what those people know who are pain to collect this information only??