Pakistan to buy 40 SU-35 or Euro Fighter soon

[jupiter2007]

I would like to put three questions :

1- Who will finance the Su-35 or Eurofighter Typhoon if Pakistan decide to buy it?

2- How much commission will the PML-N leadership plan to make by this deal ?

3- Why not to go for Chinese J-10/FC-20 which will be cheaper and from more reliable supplier and also capable of fulfilling our immediate need within our budget ?

J-10/FC-20 is not cheap, they are 65 million each.

 

[Ultima Thule]

We can't get the Typhoon, the UK won't sell it. The Su-35 or F-35 are our only immediate advanced fighter options.

F-35 on the hell is big "NO" SU-35 may be, lesser chance of EFT

 

[mike2000 is back]

Not at all. Please buy the EFT. The Germans have reduced the service life of the jets to 1500 hours due to manufacturing defects. The partners can barely afford to fly it. Only the British are pushing on, but struggling because the other partners are pussyfooting on the modernization program. Unlike Gripen or Rafale, where the numbers are continuously increasing and development programs being advanced, the Typhoon is actually struggling. I'm more than happy if the PAF purchases the EFT.

My opinion of PAF purchasing the J-10 instead is from the point of view of a well-wisher. The jet is ready and many technologies have been added to it since 2005. I also suggested the J-31 because it will be ready by 2025, while TFX will be ready only after 2030, so PAF could get a 5th gen jet earlier.

It doesn't matter what PAF buys, it won't affect IAF anymore.

The typhoon is struggling?? What are you on about dude? Don't believe what some sensational news agencies often say to attract viewers/readers. Lol Typhoon is doing just fine(now than fine to be more precise). Our typhoons already have more than 350,000 hurs flying time accumulated across the world. How many modern fighter jets can boast of that??

Many upgrades are ongoing even though its true that it's mostly Britain that is pushing/carrying them out(it's normal though,since we are the original creator of the EFT project itself. ).
The main advantage our typhoon have is that it is an inherently flexible platform and was designed from the very beginning to be continually upgraded. BAE Systems Being the leader in this project is continually enhancing the aircraft ensuring it continues to meet operational demand and the emerging threats of the future for decades to come.
Plus, There is a continual evolution of many more deadly weapons systems such as SPEAR missiles, brimstone, meteor, Storm shadow, Marte-ER, sensors and information management etc to ensure Typhoon continues to meet its future operational requirements .

Plus there is the advanced E-Scan radar which our defence giant BAE is in final face of testing trials on a British Aircraft, which will be fully integrated by next year. This radar capability will further improve Eurofighter Typhoon's combat effectiveness, allowing the aircraft to continue to maintain its superiority over future-threat combat aircraft.

Moreover, the first production orders were placed at the start of 2016 with the required capability to be available for the first deliveries to the Kuwait Air Force , Typhoon’s eighth customer and counting(with many more to come).

If typhoon is 'struggling' then all other fighter jets in the world must be doing even worse.

 

[Nefarious]

Typhoons the daddy if you can afford it

 

[Centurion2016]

I will be very surprised if PAF buys any fighter be it Typhoon SU35 or J10 in next 5 or even 7 years.

OTHER THAN used F16 or maybe one small batch of 10-18 block52 With USA subsidies I CANT SEE PAKISTAN buying bar very low cost Thunders with fairly modest upgrades in stages.

I can t see PAF with much more than 80-90 Falcons and 100 THUNDERS by 2020

Even if india turned around brought 36 rafales or even 120 F16/70IN Pakistan will stick to he above.


India has now nearly 250 su30mki AND PAFS sole answer has been 18 block 52s in this period.

THE THUDER JUST is not the iodeal plane to tyake on a massive flanker fleet

 

[Hamza913]

F-35 on the hell is big "NO" SU-35 may be, lesser chance of EFT

F-35 is possible, unlikely but still possible.

 

[s.k]

SU35 or EF..that too 40....no money for day dreaming...but they cost money.... lots of

let me explain ua nano brain, 40 doesnt means Ja beta 40 Anday le aa Dukan se, 40 Means 5 to 8 Years, Pakistan Can Pay 5 Billions in 8 Years its not impossible.

 

[mike2000 is back]

We can't get the Typhoon, the UK won't sell it. The Su-35 or F-35 are our only immediate advanced fighter options.

We will sell to any country who can afford it, as far as we don't have any conflict of interests/are not enemies. . The only issue some countries who really want the EFT face is financial constraints.


Anyway. Seems typhoons ninth customer might be oil rich Bahrain.




Eurofighter eyes Bahrain For Typhoon Sales
02:42 PM, August 2, 2016

Eurofighter Typhoon - A +

After recent success in Kuwait, and earlier in Bulgaria, Oman, Austria and Saudi Arabia, Eurofighter is eyeing Bahrain as a possible new customer for its Typhoon aircraft.
Bahrain is looking to replace its ageing F-5 aircraft with a modern fighter and Eurofighter Typhoon with the latest version of Lockheed Martin’s F-16 could be likely contenders. Bahrain operates a fleet of F-16C aircraft, so a Lockheed Martin buy could be a good fit with its training and flight operations.
"Bahrain has expressed an interest in Typhoon and the British government are leading very early discussions. BAE Systems is supporting the government in these discussions," a BAE spokeswoman said on Wednesday.
Britain will hope its historic ties with Arabian Gulf states, many of them former protectorates and regional allies, will help it secure a deal with Bahrain, securing jobs for BAE's Typhoon production line at Warton in northwest England.
A full scale replica of Eurofighter Typhoon was exhibited alongside the Spitfire outside the exhibition hall, whilst models of Typhoon, Hawk and BAE 146 were on display during this year’s Bahrain international exhibition.

http://www.defenseworld.net/news/16742/Eurofighter_eyes_Bahrain_For_Typhoon_Sales

 

[Ultima Thule]

F-35 is possible, unlikely but still possible.

No sir it is not possible, the US is not willing to sell us even F-16 and you are talking about F-35 its also extremely expansive for Pakistan, will suffer late induction, so no chance for Pakistan

 

[airmarshal]

That is my source no one initially believed this news but now PAF has told about SU-35 or Euro Fighter

In the report you are quoting, there is no mention of any particular fighter jet. Did you have dream?

 

[muhammadali233]

No sir it is not possible, the US is not willing to sell us even F-16 and you are talking about F-35 its also extremely expansive for Pakistan, will suffer late induction, so no chance for Pakistan

Americans are all out for Pak to sell weapons,they just don't want to subsidise it anymore.
So Pak reaction was F off.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

In the report you are quoting, there is no mention of any particular fighter jet. Did you have dream?

Check this thread out....Zarvan Bhai is right....Haris Khan of PDF said same thing that PAF is looking NON US AND NON CHINA JETS....

https://defence.pk/threads/a-new-aircraft-for-paf.435458/

 

[Hamza913]

No sir it is not possible, the US is not willing to sell us even F-16 and you are talking about F-35 its also extremely expansive for Pakistan, will suffer late induction, so no chance for Pakistan

The US will only sell F-16's if we pay for them. Same goes for F-35.

We will sell to any country who can afford it, as far as we don't have any conflict of interests/are not enemies. . The only issue some countries who really want the EFT face is financial constraints.

Didn't you guys refuse to sell to India?

 

[Ultima Thule]

The US will only sell F-16's if we pay for them. Same goes for F-35.

but F-35 is extremely expansive for Pakistan 85 mil $$$

 

[Super Falcon]

SU 35 a better option and deal