Pakistan, strategic sites & stealth technology

[nightcrawler]

We have to concentrate in advance to retaliate every possible attack from any side. We have to ensure over current capabilities & ready to face next generation technologies.

Proposing something like rocket power bombers & SilverBird
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[DV RULES]

where is the will there is a way

 

[DV RULES]

High Power Radio Frequency Weapons a Threat to Stealth and Cruise Weapons Technology

 

[DV RULES]

Stealth helicopters used in operation against Osama

The world knows little about the state-of-the-art and highly classified stealth helicopters at the disposal of the U.S. Special Forces, perhaps because their existence is shrouded in secrecy and these secrets are closely guarded by the highest echelons of the U.S. military. In fact, these aerial beasts are only used in the most exigent and critical operations, perhaps another reason why the public knows so little about them.

According to former officers of the U.S. Air Force, the technology used in the steal helicopters is similar to the technology used in the F-117 stealth planes. The bladed exhaust at the stealth plane’s rear creates minimal noise even when cruising at terminal velocities. The infrared suppression system dodges incoming radar detection and ensures a stealthy presence. Experts agree that these technologies helped the helicopters enter Pakistan from the Afghan border, and fly all the way to Abbottabad, completely undetected.

When the six-man strike team reached Osama’s compound, a technical fault disabled one of the helicopters. In order to ensure that this secretive technology did not fall into the wrong hands, the soldiers used incendiary devices to incinerate the fuselage of the downed vehicle. However, the intact tail section of the helicopter landed squarely outside the compound.

U.S. authorities have now demanded that the remains of the aircraft be returned to them promptly.

OBL killing by US forces using stealth variant copter should alarm P strategic forces. Where issue has raised over security of Pakistan strategic assets by US/NATO stealth technology.

What if that night US attacked on Kahuta research Laboratory or raid on Abdul Qadeer Khan to bring him to US, or attack on classified strategic site of Pakistan on demand of Israel or India?
Matter to think as it already red security emergency.

 

[DV RULES]

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[nightcrawler]

I don't believe in this stealth heli design; the fact that it carried a number of crew suggests it was a conventional Chinook; however the theory of blinding RADARs is something to believe

 

[DarK-LorD]

Another option for Pakistan will be to use submerged Pontoons.

 

[Sinnerman108]

Yes sir, you are correct, my mistake. But my point was simply that the timeline for these new birds (T-50, J-20) seems a bit optimistic. When hi tech gets rushed, it usually has some serious teething issues, and if a hundred jets roll off the line with a fundamental flaw that went undetected, it can be a very serious problem.

Chogy,

The manufacturing technology, associated processes and tools have come a long long way since 90s.

We now see a younger, more in tune batch of engineers who are more accustomed to quick development cycles.

I will not be surprised if those time lines are eventually met.

I can be Skeptical but not rule it out.

 

[DV RULES]

USA’s future military plans


August 11, 2011

According to media reports, America’s special forces units are rehearsing in case the leadership in Washington issues orders to “snatch Pakistan’s 100-plus nuclear weapons if it feared they were about to fall into the wrong hands.” Perhaps, the Obama administration seems to have underestimated the resolve of the Pakistani people and military after the Navy SEALs succeeded in killing Al-Qaeda Chief Osama Bin Laden (OBL) in a raid at Abbottabad. Also, it has misread the Pakistani army’s state of preparedness when a handful of terrorists succeeded in attacking PNS Mehran in Karachi, and destroying navy’s two P-3C Orion aircrafts.
For quite some time, the US administration and its intelligence agency, the CIA, have been spending millions of dollars on recruiting local agents to gather information about Pakistan’s nuclear weapons. But this does not mean that our military and intelligence agency, the ISI, are not aware about their evil designs; they (Pak Army and ISI) have, indeed, put in foolproof security systems for the safety of the nuclear arsenal. However, it would be prudent if those concerned with their security are not only put on further alert, but are also provided the equipment that is required to counter any act of aggression against it. So, any attempt to deprive Pakistan from its nukes by Washington will be at best a misadventure, and it will not be tolerated and could lead to unforeseen consequences, even for the United States.

Also, it is in our interest to warn those nations, especially India and Israel, that are hostile towards our nuclear programme and may miscalculate an adventure which may trigger grave consequences for the South Asian region.

Anyway, this situation needs to be reviewed in the context where several congressional panels of the US were briefed about the contingency plans, which has been prepared by their top leadership to stop Pakistan’s nuclear weapons from falling into the “wrong hands”. This clearly indicates that the Obama administration is planning a stupid adventure without realising the outcome, if such an exercise is undertaken by its military. It should also realise that all “hands” are “wrong”, except those of the concerned authorities in Pakistan.

Moreover, “India”, reportedly, “has been practising its Cold Start Doctrine (CSD)”, which is equally dangerous, since it will lead to consequences that will be unbearable for the neighbouring countries – India and Pakistan. Even though, the Pakistani government and the armed forces have rightly designed their own strategy to inflict a fatal blow on the Indian army in case they initiate a war. But the main concern for Islamabad remains Washington’s plans that have been building up for years, and it is against these designs that Pakistan must have its own contingency plan to ensure that no attempt will ever succeed to destroy its nuclear arsenal. It would be in the fitness of things, if the Pakistani leadership not only educates its own people in case of such an eventuality, but also an exercise must be conducted to plug the loopholes that are detected in the effort, which has been made till now by the government to protect its vital assets.

In the same vein, Islamabad needs to take steps on the diplomatic front so that Pakistan can clearly tell the international community, especially the US, India and Israel, that there is no possibility of its nuclear weapons falling into the “wrong” hands. However, the best possible defence mechanism must be placed, for example, if it is a three-layer security, it should be enhanced to four-layers. It will surely increase the cost being borne by the Government of Pakistan, but the finances spent to protect the country’s vital deterrence from hostile forces will be money well spent.
Nevertheless, this does not mean that Pakistan should engage in an arms race; in fact, it means that minimal deterrence should always be maintained that is absolutely essential for the nation’s defence. In case of certain technological disadvantages, Pakistan can seek assistance from friendly countries like China and also purchase the much needed technologies from Europe that will boost its defence. In addition, it needs to purchase the technologies that would boost up the defence mechanism of the sites where the nuclear arsenal is kept, including radars and other military sensors, that would detect not only high flying US surveillance planes, but will also help Pakistan’s navigators to block those passages that are vulnerable and could be utilised by radar evading technology available with the US.
According to reports, anti-stealth technology is now available. It is important that Pakistan’s leadership, both civilian and military, make sincere efforts to immediately acquire this technology in order to ensure that the nation’s airspace is not violated in future. Although Pakistan does not have the capability to match America’s military power, yet the resolve of our people is enough to tilt the balance in favour of the country in case the Americans try to indulge in any misadventure.
More so, streamlining and pruning of the people attached with the nuclear programme must be periodically carried out to ensure that the enemy never succeeds in infiltrating into our system/organisation or the facility, which may bother us at a later stage. Despite the fact that the situation is not so alarming at present, it must be remembered that great national victories are always plotted during peace time and those countries that lower their guard during peaceful years tend to suffer the most once an eventuality is thrust on them. Thus, while Washington plots a strategy to dispossess Pakistan of its nuclear assets, Islamabad should design its own contingency plans to block the evil designs plotted against the country’s nuclear arsenal from any quarter. However, this objective can only be achieved in case dedicated and committed Pakistanis are associated with these programmes.

At the same time, it is necessary that the people of Pakistan, along with the civilian and military leadership, understand their responsibilities and ensure that no one - even the Americans - dare cast an evil eye on the country’s nukes for all times to come.



The writer has been associated with various newspapers as editor and columnist. At present, he hosts a political programme on Pakistan Television.

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[DarK-LorD]

Timeline:

YF-22 prototype: 29 September 1990.
Production F-22 first flight: 7 September 1997
IOC (squadron capable): 15 December 2005.

A span of 15 years between the prototype 1st flight and operational status. This stuff doesn't happen quickly. I'm really curious as to how India plans on operating the J-20 in 4 short years, considering the jets are going to go to China first. Unless there is a secret Indian 5th gen fighter, not yet flown, that can be operational in 1/4 the time it took the Raptor.

We will operate FGFA not J-20.The first batch will be received in 2016-2017.

 

[ziaulislam]

well both aircrafts j-20 and PAK FA flew very near to each other...giving the history of chinse spee and the fact thhey have solved their engines problem..i guess chinse may end up earlier than russians...
chinse give a realistic claim of 2018 but Russian claim of 2016 is highly unliky ..its a mere strategy to keep india happy..since when any russain deal with india has maintained its proposed time line

 

[Vibs]

well both aircrafts j-20 and PAK FA flew very near to each other...giving the history of chinse spee and the fact thhey have solved their engines problem..i guess chinse may end up earlier than russians...
chinse give a realistic claim of 2018 but Russian claim of 2016 is highly unliky ..its a mere strategy to keep india happy..since when any russain deal with india has maintained its proposed time line

The PAK FA was conceptualized long before the J-20. But it was revived the same time as the initiation of the J-20. Russia has delayed delivery of equipment that have been bought after being refurbished to the point where it defies logic. But they have been meeting the delivery dates of new aircraft strictly as per schedule. Given their history in military aviation and the fact that unlike the Chinese they won't have to research or re-invent a lot of technologies going into the Pak FA, their delivery date does seem realistic.

 

[laiqs@mi]

USA’s future military plans


August 11, 2011????????


According to media reports, America’s special forces units are rehearsing in case the leadership in Washington issues orders to “snatch Pakistan’s 100-plus nuclear weapons if it feared they were about to fall into the wrong hands.” Perhaps, the Obama administration seems to have underestimated the resolve of the Pakistani people and military after the Navy SEALs succeeded in killing Al-Qaeda Chief Osama Bin Laden (OBL) in a raid at Abbottabad. Also, it has misread the Pakistani army’s state of preparedness when a handful of terrorists succeeded in attacking PNS Mehran in Karachi, and destroying navy’s two P-3C Orion aircrafts.
For quite some time, the US administration and its intelligence agency, the CIA, have been spending millions of dollars on recruiting local agents to gather information about Pakistan’s nuclear weapons. But this does not mean that our military and intelligence agency, the ISI, are not aware about their evil designs; they (Pak Army and ISI) have, indeed, put in foolproof security systems for the safety of the nuclear arsenal. However, it would be prudent if those concerned with their security are not only put on further alert, but are also provided the equipment that is required to counter any act of aggression against it. So, any attempt to deprive Pakistan from its nukes by Washington will be at best a misadventure, and it will not be tolerated and could lead to unforeseen consequences, even for the United States.

Also, it is in our interest to warn those nations, especially India and Israel, that are hostile towards our nuclear programme and may miscalculate an adventure which may trigger grave consequences for the South Asian region.

Anyway, this situation needs to be reviewed in the context where several congressional panels of the US were briefed about the contingency plans, which has been prepared by their top leadership to stop Pakistan’s nuclear weapons from falling into the “wrong hands”. This clearly indicates that the Obama administration is planning a stupid adventure without realising the outcome, if such an exercise is undertaken by its military. It should also realise that all “hands” are “wrong”, except those of the concerned authorities in Pakistan.

August 11, 2011????????

 

[ziaulislam]

its saying according to media reports..
any sane person would know that capturing so many nukes is next to impossible...
last thing we still dont know whether babur has already been developed into torpedo lauched cruise missles from sub...if it has which is very much possible due to its size then we can assume that even our subs may have a few nukes on their hands

 

[Chogy]

YES YES I ADMIT IT I made a very fundamental mistake!