Pakistan sea limits increase from 200 nm to 350 nm

[DIRECT ACTION]

Can any one tell me now the total area of Pakistan?



I didn't know that INS people are professional Photographer's and what they speak is absolute Indian way of professional speaking. Now get back to topic.

what else you expect for that stupid behavior??

 

[salarsikander]

what else you expect for that stupid behavior

Professionalism, not abusive rants

 

[My-Analogous]

What is your age bro? i didn't know your thread was running...and really what does it matter whether yours or mine is running? Grow up bro...!

It is about bandwidth and waste of space. In PDF we close thread if two or more running. Its PDF policy. You are new and that is why you don't know about it. Second question about my age So since when you are here to put comments on Sr. Member?. Now stop your childish behavior and do some research before comments.

 

[Spy Master]

It is about bandwidth and waste of space. In PDF we close thread if two or more running. Its PDF policy. You are new and that is why you don't know about it. Second question about my age So since when you are here to put comments on Sr. Member?. Now stop your childish behavior and do some research before comments.

Well i am not new here Mr. Kid...since 2011...i disabled my previous account...and you are really a thick head...where did i mention not to close mine or yours thread? and i m sure space is not the problem since thread and comments gets equal space in database n i commented on your childish comment...and the age comment was sarcasm since you are a thick head you didn't get it...!

 

[My-Analogous]

"DIRECT ACTION, post: 6931694, member: 165640"]what else you expect for that stupid behavior??[/QUOTE]

It is better then Indian professional behavior

Revealed: 2 Indian Navy vessels collided in 2009 - Video | The Times of India

 

[My-Analogous]

Well i am not new here Mr. Kid...since 2011...i disabled my previous account...and you are really a thick head...where did i mention not to close mine or yours thread? and i m sure space is not the problem since thread and comments gets equal space in database n i commented on your childish comment...and the age comment was sarcasm since you are a thick head you didn't get it...!

Mr. Infant Grown up and stop trolling

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

Aray bhai ho sakta ha akber badsha nay masalay laga k fishes samander k ander chupai ho .

 

[DIRECT ACTION]

"DIRECT ACTION, post: 6931694, member: 165640"]what else you expect for that stupid behavior??

It is better then Indian professional behavior

Revealed: 2 Indian Navy vessels collided in 2009 - Video | The Times of India[/QUOTE]

that occurred in the cost of visakhapatnam where all the radars in the ships are turn off,

 

[My-Analogous]

It is better then Indian professional behavior

Revealed: 2 Indian Navy vessels collided in 2009 - Video | The Times of India

that occurred in the cost of visakhapatnam where all the radars in the ships are turn off,[/QUOTE]



This is first time i hear that ship is running by a radars. Which high fi system Indian navy is using?. It is navigating system that run naval ship not radars and you have to set a course for that or drive by Helmsman.

 

[XYON]

Good for fishing, off shore drilling, expansion of PN area of ops.

But do think first on how Pakistan is going to monitor the entire area?

 

[duhastmish]

Great news for pakistan.

With sea area comes strategic advantage.
More fishing area
More area which might have oil minerals etc. And who knows
More dominance and reach to other countries.

 

[SABRE]

More fishing area
More area which might have oil minerals etc. And who knows
More dominance and reach to other countries.

No
Yes
No

As I keep saying but not body listens (probably because ignorance is a bliss).

Extension of Continental shelf does not mean extension in the maritime boundary & by that virtue the Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ). Continental shelf is the submarine landmass (seabed or subsoil). The sea above remains an 'international water body.' We have gained only the rights to exclusive exploitations of the land under that water.

Fishery too remains outside this purview. The UN Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf (CLCS) - body that has granted Pakistan extension of its continental shelf - says the following:

Article 77(1): The coastal State exercises over the continental shelf sovereign rights for the purpose of exploring it and exploiting its natural resources.

and then

Article 77(4): The natural resources referred to in this Part consist of the mineral and other non-living resources of the seabed and subsoil together with living organisms belonging to sedentary species, that is to say, organisms which, at the harvestable stage, either are immobile on or under the seabed or are unable to move except in constant physical contact with the seabed or the subsoil.

* Hence, the fishery in the granted area remains open to international exploitation.

The Article 78(1) says: The rights of the coastal State over the continental shelf do not affect the legal status of the superjacent waters or of the air space above those waters.

2. The exercise of the rights of the coastal State over the continental shelf must not infringe or result in any unjustifiable interference with navigation and other rights and freedoms of other States as provided for in this Convention.

* Meaning Pakistan has no control over the waters & air space above the given continental shelf.

Q: if India is planning an undersea pipeline from Iran, would this extension possibly put a spanner in that plan?

About the question you posed browser. The Article 79 of the convention addresses the issue of 'Submarine cables and pipelines on the continental shelf' & I quote:

1. All States are entitled to lay submarine cables and pipelines on the continental shelf, in accordance with the provisions of this article.

2. Subject to its right to take reasonable measures for the exploration of the continental shelf, the exploitation of its natural resources and the prevention, reduction and control of pollution from pipelines, the coastal State may not impede the laying or maintenance of such cables or pipelines.

* Coastal State here is Pakistan.

3. The delineation of the course for the laying of such pipelines on the continental shelf is subject to the consent of the coastal State.

* Here we get the upper hand. Iran & India would need Pakistan's consent for laying of pipeline. But the pipeline would have to go through Pakistan's waters anyways. Dragging it around Pakistan's waters & previous continental shelf limit would still have been costly & painstaking.

4. Nothing in this Part affects the right of the coastal State to establish conditions for cables or pipelines entering its territory or territorial sea, or its jurisdiction over cables and pipelines constructed or used in connection with the exploration of its continental shelf or exploitation of its resources or the operations of artificial islands, installations and structures under its jurisdiction.

5. When laying submarine cables or pipelines, States shall have due regard to cables or pipelines already in position. In particular, possibilities of repairing existing cables or pipelines shall not be prejudiced.

 

[Spy Master]

No
Yes
No

As I keep saying but not body listens (probably because ignorance is a bliss).

Extension of Continental shelf does not mean extension in the maritime boundary & by that virtue the Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ). Continental shelf is the submarine landmass (seabed or subsoil). The sea above remains an 'international water body.' We have gained only the rights to exclusive exploitations of the land under that water.

Fishery too remains outside this purview. The UN Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf (CLCS) - body that has granted Pakistan extension of its continental shelf - says the following:

Article 77(1): The coastal State exercises over the continental shelf sovereign rights for the purpose of exploring it and exploiting its natural resources.

and then

Article 77(4): The natural resources referred to in this Part consist of the mineral and other non-living resources of the seabed and subsoil together with living organisms belonging to sedentary species, that is to say, organisms which, at the harvestable stage, either are immobile on or under the seabed or are unable to move except in constant physical contact with the seabed or the subsoil.

* Hence, the fishery in the granted area remains open to international exploitation.

The Article 78(1) says: The rights of the coastal State over the continental shelf do not affect the legal status of the superjacent waters or of the air space above those waters.

2. The exercise of the rights of the coastal State over the continental shelf must not infringe or result in any unjustifiable interference with navigation and other rights and freedoms of other States as provided for in this Convention.

* Meaning Pakistan has no control over the waters & air space above the given continental shelf.



About the question you posed browser. The Article 79 of the convention addresses the issue of 'Submarine cables and pipelines on the continental shelf' & I quote:

1. All States are entitled to lay submarine cables and pipelines on the continental shelf, in accordance with the provisions of this article.

2. Subject to its right to take reasonable measures for the exploration of the continental shelf, the exploitation of its natural resources and the prevention, reduction and control of pollution from pipelines, the coastal State may not impede the laying or maintenance of such cables or pipelines.

* Coastal State here is Pakistan.

3. The delineation of the course for the laying of such pipelines on the continental shelf is subject to the consent of the coastal State.

* Here we get the upper hand. Iran & India would need Pakistan's consent for laying of pipeline. But the pipeline would have to go through Pakistan's waters anyways. Dragging it around Pakistan's waters & previous continental shelf limit would still have been costly & painstaking.

4. Nothing in this Part affects the right of the coastal State to establish conditions for cables or pipelines entering its territory or territorial sea, or its jurisdiction over cables and pipelines constructed or used in connection with the exploration of its continental shelf or exploitation of its resources or the operations of artificial islands, installations and structures under its jurisdiction.

5. When laying submarine cables or pipelines, States shall have due regard to cables or pipelines already in position. In particular, possibilities of repairing existing cables or pipelines shall not be prejudiced.

Great news for pakistan.

With sea area comes strategic advantage.
More fishing area
More area which might have oil minerals etc. And who knows
More dominance and reach to other countries.

The guy is right...PN spokesperson in an interview to Express tribune highlight these three points that comes as an advantage...u can find link in Express tribune page......!

 

[Ragnar]

Wonder what landlocked states like Kazakhstan or Switzerland get?

 

[SABRE]

Wonder what landlocked states like Kazakhstan or Switzerland get?

Law of the Seas stresses that coastal states adjacent to landlocked states must provide them with access to their coasts/ports. These states of course would not have any right to EEZ or Continental Shelf of the accommodating coastal states.