Pakistan ‘perilously close’ to being failed state: India

[India_loves_peace]

you are right actually only new generation can reform Pakistan but they have to follow path of liberty and development instead religious rigidness. today Pakistan need a young political lobby which is strongly in favor economic development. there may be a time where religious faith can clash with development route and that's the time where right decision need to be taken. if they can do that it would be new rising of Pakistan.

But the problem is as you know all taliban millitants , extremists and terrorists are of young generation and they are filled with hatred towards christens and hindus. If the pakistan is having peace deals with such people they are going to produce more extremists ....
Now only hope for pakistan is the revolution , whereby good and moderate pakistanis will get opportunity to voice their opinions and are major part of government will contain people who can tolerate other religions .

If Taliban occupies pakistan like it did in past few years it is not long that it will be failed state.

 

[duhastmish]

There was some wishful thinking about how Pakistan needs a leader like Putin to turn the country around.They forget that the country where such heroes are born have a certain amount of caliber about them something which Pakistan lacks...

Can you elaborate about it? Pakistan had Musharraf as one leader.
As for pakistan - we all know how small - in term of geogrophy economic, world diplomacy is pakistan compared to india.
ANd these 60 yrs of wars . how much land have we got their's ??? and how much land have they got our's? after 1947-48 .
Does it tell you something ? We were in deep shyt till 1984- Rajiv gandhi era was revival of our country. they need a leader like rajiv.

 

[DarkStar]

Symbian, your last outburst has won you an infraction.

We have a two strikes and you're out policy.

 

[dabong1]

heres a break down on pakistan population.
Age Breakdown; 46% under 15, 25% 15 to 29, 14% 30 to 44, 9% 45 to 59,

71 % are bellow 30. With a proper education and if they try to stay away from madrases, pakistan will have a great future.

This fixation with madrassas is totally wrong.........non of the leaders of al qaeda and any pakistani leader went to a madrassa.

The onething that all the top terrorist have in common is that they where muslims taught in western institutions......going of your logic we should stop western education to muslim children.

 

[dabong1]

As for pakistan - we all know how small - in term of geogrophy economic, world diplomacy is pakistan compared to india.
ANd these 60 yrs of wars . how much land have we got their's ??? and how much land have they got our's? after 1947-48 ..

So your bigger than pakistan but you still can not defeat us.........what have you got from attacking us during the last 60 years.....nothing!

Does it tell you something ? We were in deep shyt till 1984- Rajiv gandhi era was revival of our country. they need a leader like rajiv.

You dreamer.........how many farmer commited suicide post Rajiv gandhi compared to now?

 

[spsk]

So your bigger than pakistan but you still can not defeat us.........what have you got from attacking us during the last 60 years.....nothing!




You dreamer.........how many farmer commited suicide post Rajiv gandhi compared to now?

In last 60 years India has not been aggressor always, I think from India we have taken some initiatives in peace process . When India opened a Bus Service to Pakistan , our Prime minister visiting Pakistan and Pakistan troops infiltrating India.

Unstable Pakistan will definitely harm India and India will make sure this will not happen.

Rajiv Gandhi was the Prime minister to help India from coming out of economic failure ,He started globalizing Indian economy.

 

[Bull]

He didnt say it has, but said it can if the rot is not stemmed. I would agree a 100%.

 

[godsavetheworld]

So your bigger than pakistan but you still can not defeat us.........what have you got from attacking us during the last 60 years.....nothing!

What is your definition of defeat? Taking over a country or making it barren land? These are not times of Genghis Khan or Akbar. We've defeatd you in all wars divided your country into Bangladesh, but we dont choose to make Pakistan another Iraq.

You dreamer.........how many farmer commited suicide post Rajiv gandhi compared to now?

Im glad you raised the issue, and I can tell you know nothing about it. Take a look at the statistics yourself. And also take a look at the 2008 budget speech where GOI waivered off all farmer loans and reduced interest by 4 % for farmers.
And if this still doesnt quench your anguish, take a look at the list of largest food producing nations in the world. Then we can have a meaningful discussion

 

[HAIDER]

Why did Pakistan's economy suddenly turn to dust as soon as zardari took over?
Musharraf didn't do anything to strengthen the economy which crumbled at the change of leadership,of he had it would have been apparent today wouldn't it?

What about the territories we had to give back after 1971? Whatever happened to East Pakistan? What about Kargil? How did that end?This argument is useless.The territories held by Pakistan are reclaimable if India's leadership was willing and had the people of India behind it.
Yes,we were in deep ,but are we now?
Leaders like Rajiv gandhi don't come out of thin air.He brought computer to India and now we are an IT hub.What did Musharraf do besides inciting war?If he was anywhere near as capable as Putin or Rajiv gandhi Pakistan would have beeen a lot different today.

Difference between Pakistan is very clear, In India tycoons like TATA and othe industrial giants forced their business policies on the govt. In Pakistan we need such class of people who are bigger then politicians. India had this infrastructure before 47 and we were barren land before. All Pak need political stability, then we might see a huge economic change will help to built agro-industrial country.

 

[vkurian]

Difference between Pakistan is very clear, In India tycoons like TATA and othe industrial giants forced their business policies on the govt. In Pakistan we need such class of people who are bigger then politicians. India had this infrastructure before 47 and we were barren land before. All Pak need political stability, then we might see a huge economic change will help to built agro-industrial country.

I agree with Haider as after 26/11 also the business leaders made it very clear to the government that they were not in favour of a war.Any nation has to take the opinion of the cross section of society before taking any decision.

Most of the devlopment that India has done is in the last 25 years so it is never late for Pakistan to catch up. I feel the biggest stumbling block is the army who will never let democratic institutions take roots.The present bunch of known leaders are not fit to lead the country.Imran was a man with a difference but he is also rooting for taliban. In absence of a strong leader I am afraid you will be used by various big powers to promote their own interest.

 

[dabong1]

What is your definition of defeat? Taking over a country or making it barren land? These are not times of Genghis Khan or Akbar. We've defeatd you in all wars divided your country into Bangladesh, but we dont choose to make Pakistan another Iraq.

You came into the bangladesh war in last few weeks of the war and tried to grab the glory......why did you not invade from the start?
Why could you not repeat you "victory" on your western borders?
You really made me laugh with your last comment "we dont choose to make Pakistan another Iraq"....you are not the US or China...your a third power who after outnumbering pakistan in alll areas has got nowhere near defeating pakistan....as in destroying its military industrial base,govt ect.

Im glad you raised the issue, and I can tell you know nothing about it. Take a look at the statistics yourself. And also take a look at the 2008 budget speech where GOI waivered off all farmer loans and reduced interest by 4 % for farmers.
And if this still doesnt quench your anguish, take a look at the list of largest food producing nations in the world. Then we can have a meaningful discussion

So your saying that govt has waivered off all loans but then go on to say that the intrest rate has been reduced......whats the point off bringing down the intrest rate when nobody is going to pay the loan?

"The threat of widespread protests ended after Finance Minister P.
Chidambaram announced a $15 billion aid package for "small and marginal farmers" who owe money to state banks.
Nevertheless, many critics say Indian farmers need a long-term solution, not a one-time bail out.
"The government knows we will take out more loans in the end and fall in the same trap," said Nivruti Dokhale, a Nashik onion farmer who is $8,000 in debt."

A one off payment so they keep voting the right party does not mean anything.

You have a billion people ,off course your going to have a large agriculture sector.

Maybe you should stop stating the obvious and "then we can have a meaningful discussion".