Pakistan needs to replace China with Russia

[Khan vilatey]

Whaaaaaaaa? Is this a April fools thing?

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[Genghis khan1]

Putin still holds grudges for the defeat of Soviet Union. He has declined to visit Pakistan. Russian can’t be trusted. They are economically weak and will not want to lose gao mata of Dollar.

 

[Aspen]

Russia is an unreliable ally. You can never depend on them. They could backstab you any minute. Turkey and Iran know this well.

China has a lot of problems but being unreliable is not one of them. China is dependable and stick by their allies in both good and bad times. Russia changes sides like the weather based on what suits them. Putin has no issue throwing Turkey or Iran under the bus when he feels like it.

 

[OIO]

China is an all weather all field partner not only weapon supplier.

Pakistan can get any weapon/components needed in emergency. Assistance in UN is not something you can buy from supermarket. IMO, Pakistan did a very good long-term investment in China but you are asking if Pakistan should give up the return.

 

[JafarQureshi]

China is an all weather all field partner not only weapon supplier.

Pakistan can get any weapon/components needed in emergency. Assistance in UN is not something you can buy from supermarket. IMO, Pakistan did a very good long-term investment in China but you are asking if Pakistan should give up the return.

Are you saying China will not support Pakistan at UN, if Pakistan does not buy weapons from China?

 

[OIO]

Are you saying China will not support Pakistan at UN, if Pakistan does not buy weapons from China?

Pakistan is buying weapons not only from China.

 

[El Sidd]

Is it time to replace China with Russia?

No doubt China has given us many technologies and weapon systems but they don't to it for the love of Pakistan rather to confront India.

Even if Pakistan does not buy any weapons from China, they will still consider India as their rival & enemy. So they is no risk of China selling any weapons to India.

On the other hand, Russia had been selling weapons to India for many decades now but this relationship is very weak today thanks to Modi who is anti-Russia. Today, Modi's India is primarily buying weapons from the US.

Hence, Pakistan buying weapons from Russia instead of China would break the Russia-India relationship permanently and we could get advanced weapons systems from Russia.

Do you have a talking parrot?

 

[JafarQureshi]

Pakistan is buying weapons not only from China.

Pakistan is buying majority of its weapons from China. This is the wasted money which could be better spent on Russia to gain additional leverage.

According to Sipri, China accounted for 51% of Pakistan's arms imports in 2010–14 and for 73% in 2015–19. Sipri also noted that Pakistan continued to import arms from Europe, strengthening relations with Turkey with orders for 30 combat helicopters and four frigates in 2018.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/626797-pakistan-ranks-11th-in-arms-imports

Pakistan ranks 11th in arms imports

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ISLAMABAD: Pakistan ranked at 11th position in arms imports in the world over, says the latest report by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (Sipri) that tracks arms deals around the world.

India retains its position as the second-largest arms importer in the world followed by Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia now imports12% of its arms (2015-19) as against 5.6% in 2010-14 – a jump of 130%.

Figures released by Sipri alongside the report showed that China, Russia and Italy were the main suppliers of arms to Pakistan. Import numbers further highlighted that the actual share of Pakistani imports in total global weapons imports had decreased.

According to the Stockholm-based institute, China accounted for 73% of the total arms imports of Pakistan over 2015-2019, with Russia (6.6%) and Italy (6.1%) second and third on the list.

The report noted that Pakistan's share in global arms imports had decreased by 39% in the period. The overall decrease in Pakistan's arms imports over the latest five-year period was linked to the US decision to stop military aid to Pakistan.

The institute noted that Pakistan was among the top three buyers of arms from top weapons exporters like Italy and Turkey. Pakistan had a 7.5% share in arms imports from Italy between 2015-2019, and 12% share in Turkish arms over the same period.

Sipri also identified a significant drop in arms sales to South Asia by the United States, which was listed as the largest arms exporter in the world between 2015-2019. The institute noted that US arms imports to Pakistan declined by 92%, and to India by 51% over this period. The US, which had accounted for 30% of Pakistan’s arms imports in 2010–14, was responsible for only 4.1% in 2015–19.

Meanwhile, Islamabad was identified as the largest buyer of Chinese arms between 2015-2019, accounting for 35% of the arms exported by Beijing — the fifth largest exporter of weapons in the world in the five-year period.

According to Sipri, China accounted for 51% of Pakistan's arms imports in 2010–14 and for 73% in 2015–19. Sipri also noted that Pakistan continued to import arms from Europe, strengthening relations with Turkey with orders for 30 combat helicopters and four frigates in 2018.

The peace research firm also published a short analysis on the February 2019 military confrontation between Islamabad and New Delhi. According to Sipri, Pakistan reportedly used combat aircraft imported from China and equipped with Russian engines, in the fight.

These aircraft were supported by aircraft from the US, and airborne early warning and control aircraft from Sweden. India reportedly used combat aircraft imported from France and Russia, guided bombs from Israel, and artillery from Sweden with Russian engines in the fight.

"Between 2010–14 and 2015–19, arms imports by India and Pakistan decreased by 32% and 39%, respectively. While both countries have long-standing aims to produce their own major arms, they remain largely dependent on imports," the institute highlighted.

"As in previous years, in 2019 India and Pakistan—which are nuclear-armed states—attacked each other using an array of imported major arms," Siemon Wezeman, senior researcher at SIPRI, said. "Many of the world’s largest arms exporters have supplied these two states for decades, often exporting arms to both sides," he added.

According to Sipri, the largest exporters of arms during the past five years were the United States, Russia, France, Germany and China. New data showed that the flow of arms to the Middle East increased, with Saudi Arabia the world’s largest importer between 2015-19.

Between 2010–14 and 2015–19, exports of major arms from the US grew by 23 per cent, raising its share of total global arms exports to 36 per cent. In 2015–19, total US arms exports were 76% higher than those of the second-largest arms exporter in the world, Russia. Major arms transferred from the US went to a total of 96 countries.

"Half of US arms exports in the past five years went to the Middle East, and half of those went to Saudi Arabia,’ said Pieter Wezeman, Senior Researcher at Sipri. "At the same time, demand for the US advanced military aircraft increased, particularly in Europe," he added.

French arms exports reached their highest level for any five-year period since 1990 and accounted for 7.9% of total global arms exports in 2015–19. "The French have benefited from the demand for arms in Egypt, Qatar and India," Diego Lopes Da Silva, a Sipri researcher, said.

However, the institute claimed that major arms exports by Russia decreased by 18% between 2010–14 and 2015–19. The main reason, an expert said, was that Russia had lost traction in India— the main long-term recipient of Russian major arms.

Over the five years from 2015 to 2019, international arms exports grew by 5.5% from the 2010-2014 period, the report highlighted. "Overall, arms transfers have increased... Amongst the arms importing countries, the demand is high and seems to even have increased a bit," Wezeman told AFP.

Shipments from the US grew by 23%, raising its share of total global arms exports to 36%. Between 2015 and 2019, the US delivered major arms to 96 countries. Half of US arms exports went to the Middle East, and half of those to Saudi Arabia.

The kingdom's arms imports jumped by 130% from the 2010-2014 period, and it was on the receiving end of 12% of global major arms transfers in 2015 to 2019. The fact that so much heavy weaponry is exported to the Middle East is particularly "of concern", Wezeman said.

Do you have a talking parrot?

I don't have one but I am the one.

 

[Awan68]

I have long stated the biggest mistake Pakistan's early leaders did was to have a antagonistic relationship with the Soviet Union Sino-Pak relations only became close in 1962 after the result of the Sino Indian war but past is past anyways as for Russia I think it's best time we start anew with Moscow and form cordial ties

There was no relationship to be had with the former Soviet Union, they had designs on our Balochistan, they were expansionist, they wanted to spread there communist ideology to the entire world, we are an ideological state ourselves, there was bound to be a clash at some point, well, there was and we won, fck the soviet union and their ungodly facism.

 

[OIO]

Pakistan is buying majority of its weapons from China. This is the wasted money which could be better spent on Russia to gain additional leverage.

According to Sipri, China accounted for 51% of Pakistan's arms imports in 2010–14 and for 73% in 2015–19. Sipri also noted that Pakistan continued to import arms from Europe, strengthening relations with Turkey with orders for 30 combat helicopters and four frigates in 2018.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/626797-pakistan-ranks-11th-in-arms-imports

Pakistan ranks 11th in arms imports

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ISLAMABAD: Pakistan ranked at 11th position in arms imports in the world over, says the latest report by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (Sipri) that tracks arms deals around the world.

India retains its position as the second-largest arms importer in the world followed by Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia now imports12% of its arms (2015-19) as against 5.6% in 2010-14 – a jump of 130%.

Figures released by Sipri alongside the report showed that China, Russia and Italy were the main suppliers of arms to Pakistan. Import numbers further highlighted that the actual share of Pakistani imports in total global weapons imports had decreased.

According to the Stockholm-based institute, China accounted for 73% of the total arms imports of Pakistan over 2015-2019, with Russia (6.6%) and Italy (6.1%) second and third on the list.

The report noted that Pakistan's share in global arms imports had decreased by 39% in the period. The overall decrease in Pakistan's arms imports over the latest five-year period was linked to the US decision to stop military aid to Pakistan.

The institute noted that Pakistan was among the top three buyers of arms from top weapons exporters like Italy and Turkey. Pakistan had a 7.5% share in arms imports from Italy between 2015-2019, and 12% share in Turkish arms over the same period.

Sipri also identified a significant drop in arms sales to South Asia by the United States, which was listed as the largest arms exporter in the world between 2015-2019. The institute noted that US arms imports to Pakistan declined by 92%, and to India by 51% over this period. The US, which had accounted for 30% of Pakistan’s arms imports in 2010–14, was responsible for only 4.1% in 2015–19.

Meanwhile, Islamabad was identified as the largest buyer of Chinese arms between 2015-2019, accounting for 35% of the arms exported by Beijing — the fifth largest exporter of weapons in the world in the five-year period.

According to Sipri, China accounted for 51% of Pakistan's arms imports in 2010–14 and for 73% in 2015–19. Sipri also noted that Pakistan continued to import arms from Europe, strengthening relations with Turkey with orders for 30 combat helicopters and four frigates in 2018.

The peace research firm also published a short analysis on the February 2019 military confrontation between Islamabad and New Delhi. According to Sipri, Pakistan reportedly used combat aircraft imported from China and equipped with Russian engines, in the fight.

These aircraft were supported by aircraft from the US, and airborne early warning and control aircraft from Sweden. India reportedly used combat aircraft imported from France and Russia, guided bombs from Israel, and artillery from Sweden with Russian engines in the fight.

"Between 2010–14 and 2015–19, arms imports by India and Pakistan decreased by 32% and 39%, respectively. While both countries have long-standing aims to produce their own major arms, they remain largely dependent on imports," the institute highlighted.

"As in previous years, in 2019 India and Pakistan—which are nuclear-armed states—attacked each other using an array of imported major arms," Siemon Wezeman, senior researcher at SIPRI, said. "Many of the world’s largest arms exporters have supplied these two states for decades, often exporting arms to both sides," he added.

According to Sipri, the largest exporters of arms during the past five years were the United States, Russia, France, Germany and China. New data showed that the flow of arms to the Middle East increased, with Saudi Arabia the world’s largest importer between 2015-19.

Between 2010–14 and 2015–19, exports of major arms from the US grew by 23 per cent, raising its share of total global arms exports to 36 per cent. In 2015–19, total US arms exports were 76% higher than those of the second-largest arms exporter in the world, Russia. Major arms transferred from the US went to a total of 96 countries.

"Half of US arms exports in the past five years went to the Middle East, and half of those went to Saudi Arabia,’ said Pieter Wezeman, Senior Researcher at Sipri. "At the same time, demand for the US advanced military aircraft increased, particularly in Europe," he added.

French arms exports reached their highest level for any five-year period since 1990 and accounted for 7.9% of total global arms exports in 2015–19. "The French have benefited from the demand for arms in Egypt, Qatar and India," Diego Lopes Da Silva, a Sipri researcher, said.

However, the institute claimed that major arms exports by Russia decreased by 18% between 2010–14 and 2015–19. The main reason, an expert said, was that Russia had lost traction in India— the main long-term recipient of Russian major arms.

Over the five years from 2015 to 2019, international arms exports grew by 5.5% from the 2010-2014 period, the report highlighted. "Overall, arms transfers have increased... Amongst the arms importing countries, the demand is high and seems to even have increased a bit," Wezeman told AFP.

Shipments from the US grew by 23%, raising its share of total global arms exports to 36%. Between 2015 and 2019, the US delivered major arms to 96 countries. Half of US arms exports went to the Middle East, and half of those to Saudi Arabia.

The kingdom's arms imports jumped by 130% from the 2010-2014 period, and it was on the receiving end of 12% of global major arms transfers in 2015 to 2019. The fact that so much heavy weaponry is exported to the Middle East is particularly "of concern", Wezeman said.



I don't have one but I am the one.

Chima is the only reliable weapon supplier to Pakistan now.

I understand Pakistani want to diversify the weapon supplier, improve relationship with other countries, cooperation with Muslim countries in weapon developing, finally self sufficient. But there's no option to replace China in near future.

 

[JafarQureshi]

Chima is the only reliable weapon supplier to Pakistan now.

I understand Pakistani want to diversify the weapon supplier, improve relationship with other countries, cooperation with Muslim countries in weapon developing, finally self sufficient. But there's no option to replace China in near future.

It is Pakistan's soveriegn decision where it wants to spend her money not China's.

 

[OIO]

It is Pakistan's soveriegn decision where it wants to spend her money not China's.

Of cause, I never overestimate China's influence in Pakistan.

 

[rott]

It is Pakistan's soveriegn decision where it wants to spend her money not China's.

Relax, no one is going to decide where Pakistan should spend her money. China didn't restrict Pakistan to buy weapons from others but instead, Pakistan CHOSE to buy weapons from China.

 

[CIA Mole]

china is good ally because china has no orher allies

 

[rott]

china is good ally because china has no orher allies

Really? You're beginning to sound like an Indian.